They DO NOT slow a bike down faster.  Braided lines eliminate the majority of the "expansion" that happens when you increase the pressure inside standard rubber brake lines.  Go out and eyeball your brake lines while squeezing and releasing your brake lever.  The line will flex and relax before you.  Due to the lines expanding, some of the pressure delivered by the master cylinder is relieved before the caliper.  Stainless lines prevent this from happening a allow nearly 95% of the lever pull to go directly to the caliper.  Basically, you have to pull the lever less to get the same result, but your bike's stopping distance will not change between the two giving your brakes were working properly before and after.

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Good to know thanks. 

Next for me will be either:

Aprilla Shiver 750
Or:

Ducati Monster 695
Or:

Triumph Street Triple

HD sportster 883c , or a new buell ulysses. i got to ride one which belonged to a photog from killboy. he was on  one of our patriot guard missions, or an old ducati paso

Quote from: bikejunkie223 on September 07, 2008, 10:10:32 PM
Next for me will be either:

Aprilla Shiver 750
Or:

Triumph Street Triple

I'm sure the Shiver is a great bike, but I'd have a hard time paying that money for it even if I had it to spend.  My friend was talking about it today, but the stats weren't convincing to me--even over an SV650, much less the Street Triple.  Granted looking at stats and riding are quite a bit different...  It sure is sexy though!  Great looking naked bike!

It's only a garnd or so more than a street triple, and sexier I think. Probably do the Triumph tho- easier to find a dealer.

Waiting for the new 2009 yamaha R1 to come out

I am going back and forth, while I research and have fun looking at pics. 

Im starting to like the buells now. 

Something like this:

Quote from: bikejunkie223 on September 08, 2008, 04:44:26 PM
It's only a garnd or so more than a street triple, and sexier I think. Probably do the Triumph tho- easier to find a dealer.

Even as much as I love the Trip, I do think the Shiver is better looking.  However, according to CycleWorld, it was almost a full second slower to 60 mph.  4 seconds flat for the Shiver vs. 3.1 for the Trip. The SV650 even out accelerated it up until the very top end.  That's why I said the performance numbers would turn me away as much as the price.  But like I said, stats don't always equal the whole riding experience.  The SV is hard to beat as a good all-arounder at $5999 msrp.

Ill put the face mask on mine 

Quote from: theUBS on September 08, 2008, 07:39:23 PMEven as much as I love the Trip, I do think the Shiver is better looking.  However, according to CycleWorld, it was almost a full second slower to 60 mph.  4 seconds flat for the Shiver vs. 3.1 for the Trip. The SV650 even out accelerated it up until the very top end.  That's why I said the performance numbers would turn me away as much as the price.  But like I said, stats don't always equal the whole riding experience.  The SV is hard to beat as a good all-arounder at $5999 msrp.

give them similar gearing and you'll read a different article.  The Triple is meant to be an idiot's wheelie machine.  The Shiver is a naked sportbike.  I can think the front end of the Speed Triple up but the top end is garbage.

Oh and I'll point out that even though I posted a pic of the GT1000 as my next ride...it's my dream ride but not my next ride.  My next ride will be my fantasy ride and be more along the lines of:

Quote from: makenzie71 on September 08, 2008, 08:09:16 PM
give them similar gearing and you'll read a different article.  The Triple is meant to be an idiot's wheelie machine.  The Shiver is a naked sportbike.  I can think the front end of the Speed Triple up but the top end is garbage.

I thought the Trip was just a minimalist version of the Daytona 675.  Definitely tuned more for midrange torque, but not completely ignoring top end either.  The Trip tops out at 140 to the Shiver's 130.  Again, this isn't to say that after riding the two back to back that I wouldn't enjoy the Shiver more.  But numbers say I would if I have the itch for acceleration or all out speed.  Most reports though say the Daytona's lineage is obvious in handling as well.

...oh, and just for clarification, we were discussing the Street Triple as opposed the beastier Speed Triple--which is pretty much outrageous.

ubs, your talking out yor arse as usual! You have no idea what so ever.

Quote from: Domindart on September 08, 2008, 07:57:41 PM

It looks like someone strapped a gas mask onto the front of it...that's just odd. I really like the looks of the Aprila- Italian sexiness incarnate. I have always had a semi for Triumphs though, and I doubt there is an Aprila dealer anywhere near here. I'd take the Street Triple over an SV650 simply because there aren't many around. lot's of SV's running around...

Quote from: bikejunkie223 on September 08, 2008, 10:28:35 PM
It looks like someone strapped a gas mask onto the front of it...that's just odd. I really like the looks of the Aprila- Italian sexiness incarnate. I have always had a semi for Triumphs though, and I doubt there is an Aprila dealer anywhere near here. I'd take the Street Triple over an SV650 simply because there aren't many around. lot's of SV's running around...

I'd rather have the Triumph as well--for a multitude of reasons.  But, I believe I'd be more than happy with the SV--which I can't really afford right now either.  Heck, I'm happy when I'm riding my GS!   

UBS....wrote "speed" but I meant "street".  Both of the bikes are well capable of getting into the 140mph area with the stock gearing.  The thing is that the 675 is tune to deliver the rbunt of it's grunt from idle through midrange...which leaves the top end lacking.  It's plenty fast but, riding it back to back with a 2006 GSXR600, there's no comparison to what the two can do up top.  It's like comparing it to the 675 Daytona.  The triple's edge in horsepower is going to keep it on top of the Shiver in most areas but the Shiver has it's powerband up top and should make it's delivery much better.

Of course I can't really say for the shiver, though, as I've yet to ride one.

i must admit the buell looks great but the power to weight ratio is just too poor for me to justify a purchase.

how does braided lines slow down a bike faster?  (newb)
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standard brake lines are rubber compound, which expands depending on heat and pressure.  so if you are riding aggressively or in warm weather or a combo the pressure in the line will expand it and makes less pressure.  pressure is what drives the pads to slow down the bike.  SS lines do not have this play. so you don't have to worry about  heat.  you will have much higher pressure and thus the pads can work harder because of the reduced heat.  one finger braking for normal driving is not unusual with SS lines.  two fingers for everything else including stoppies.  hope this helps explain

Quote from: frankieG on September 09, 2008, 08:16:22 AM
i must admit the buell looks great but the power to weight ratio is just too poor for me to justify a purchase.

I just compared the ducati sportclassic 1000s to the buell xb9.  They both have the same (92) hp and the buell is slightly lighter at 390 lbs dry weight.

THe sv1000 is 410 lbs with 118 hp. 

The gs500 is 372 lbs with 47 hp.

I just goggled these numbers, I m not sure if they are exactly correct, but it looks like the buell is fine with me. 

The gs is the one thats underpowered.