When I looked at the carbs, I didn't notice any bolts stripped, loose or chewed.  Everything looked pretty much solid.  Let's hope!

Jerry

Yea, some people use jargon ...
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Buddha.

OK the genius replaced 125 jets with 125 jets ... like some sorta wear item. Now the jets in the pack and the jets in the carbs as well as the floats etc are rust colored ... so you have tank rust, or the guy used to fill up where there was ... And the jets in the baggie you sent me, were original mikuni, the one in the carb seems to be like what I buy ... ergo ... this was a canadian bike

Then ... this is the scary part ... that metal little thing in the bag ... its a needle guide ... off a keihein carb. My nighthawk carbs had them ...

OK then, your O rings are shot, common enough and easy enough ... BTW for K&N and drilled pipe, you had to have 150's in it, these have 125. Right there its going to run like crap.

Your floats are off, like waaaaaaaaay off, really really high, and might explain why it ran better than it should except when you open the throttle at the under 1/2 throttle position.

Now you prolly dont need a Jet job, you need an O ring job. save $22, spend $10 instead. I wont pull your pilots if you opt for that, cos if I try to get em out and they strip ... you're looking at ~$10 ... Mains can be pulled and re used, pilots cannot ... or should not, they sit in that hole and them getting stuck = death ...

What was it doing ... or you never ran it ?

BTW you asked about air box ... on the bottom, a hose goes there and winds its way through the under side of the motor and comes out the right by your foot. It has a cap on it. Its the drain hose. See gas from there and floats are over flowing, see oil and your crankcase vent is spewing oil, see a wee bit of oil+water+carbon (brown liquid) ... and you're OK.

The top of the airbox has a hose going to the top of motor. That is the crankcase vent.

That is all there is to it. No pics, tommorow, cos I snuck in some work between torrential downpours and darkness.
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Buddha.

Buddha,

I ran it.  It started on choke and idled high.  After it warmed up, it would go between stalling and 4k rpm with the choke off.  Finally, it would stumble and stall.  If I gave the throttle a quick twist, it would hesitate/stumble, then it would rev and then it would either come down slowly or not come down at all.

In addition to everything you noted, the fuel lines were kinked and/or leaking.

The K&N filter is out of the picture now, and I'll be putting the stock airbox back on.  Your notes will help with that.  I blew out the stock fillter and everything looks good.  As far as the repair work goes, I'm going to go with your recommendation.  Replace, adjust and clean as needed to make them work nicely with a stock airbox and drilled stock pipe.  I'm OK with all of the costs you've laid out, so just use your judgement and let me know the total.  I'd like to reinstall them with the confidence that they are "right" and I don't have to worry about them for awhile.

Thanks much for the update.  I'm happy to hear that everything sounds workable and I'm looking forward to getting them back in the bike.

BTW,  for anybody reading this thread, it should be noted that these carbs were just delivered to Buddha yesterday, and he has already diagnosed them.  That is absolutely incredible from a service perspective.  Your extremely low service charges and your timing and expertise is really a tremendous value to the forum.  I really appreciate this as I would have had no experience in trying to see everything you have noted.

Thanks,

Jerry

I know, I really need to get mine sent off.
I just don't want to pull the bike off the road long enough to do it.

Quote from: GI_JO_NATHAN on August 28, 2008, 05:13:22 AM
I know, I really need to get mine sent off.
I just don't want to pull the bike off the road long enough to do it.

That's what winter is for, if it's running at least OK for now. Just don't forget to yank them when winter comes, or you'll be looking at spring.

He's in SC, there aint no winter ... 
In NC+SC - We have 2 seasons, riding season, and AC season. In riding season, any time is OK. In AC season, you ride morning and evening only, during the day, you need AC in the car.
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Buddha.

Slightly OT, but I spent my last two summer vacations in the area.  In 2007, we went to Myrtle Beach for a week.  Just this summer, we spend a week at Topsail Island in NC.  I loved it.

Jerry

Quote from: Jerry_ on August 28, 2008, 04:41:42 AM
Buddha,

I ran it.  It started on choke and idled high.  After it warmed up, it would go between stalling and 4k rpm with the choke off.  Finally, it would stumble and stall.  If I gave the throttle a quick twist, it would hesitate/stumble, then it would rev and then it would either come down slowly or not come down at all.

In addition to everything you noted, the fuel lines were kinked and/or leaking.

The K&N filter is out of the picture now, and I'll be putting the stock airbox back on.  Your notes will help with that.  I blew out the stock fillter and everything looks good.  As far as the repair work goes, I'm going to go with your recommendation.  Replace, adjust and clean as needed to make them work nicely with a stock airbox and drilled stock pipe.  I'm OK with all of the costs you've laid out, so just use your judgement and let me know the total.  I'd like to reinstall them with the confidence that they are "right" and I don't have to worry about them for awhile.

Thanks much for the update.  I'm happy to hear that everything sounds workable and I'm looking forward to getting them back in the bike.

BTW,  for anybody reading this thread, it should be noted that these carbs were just delivered to Buddha yesterday, and he has already diagnosed them.  That is absolutely incredible from a service perspective.  Your extremely low service charges and your timing and expertise is really a tremendous value to the forum.  I really appreciate this as I would have had no experience in trying to see everything you have noted.

Thanks,

Jerry

Oh, the genius that I am, I didn't see this cos it was on the previous page ... 
Yea, the opening it immediately ... you got lucky, my welder was out, I raced home to go there and he called it off 5 mins before I got home, the rain had held off and I had 10 mins of daylight left. I should not set such high standards for quick response ... then more people will want that.

OK so you moving to maryland right I'm sending it there ... Rockville, MD.

Yea, clogged pilot jet and high float ... the 2 that I ahve seen so far will cause all the issues you have mentioned. lets see if there are more things off. Everythign will be set right. I dunno why people remove and put new jets in the same numbers. They're not like tires. They dont wear.
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Buddha.

QuoteRockville, MD.

Ha, Ha...  Maybe that's our sister city and I don't know it.  Unlikely that there would be another Jerry waiting to receive a package of carbs from Buddha though!

Happy to hear you're finding issues that will  explain what I experienced.  I'll get the oil change done this weekend and possibly check the valve clearances.  Then I'll be ready to drop in the carbs when they arrive.

Nice!!

Jerry

OK I'll send ya pics tommorow ...
Got interesting stuff.
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Buddha.

Curious and looking forward to the pics. 

UPDATE!

The carbs were returned after a good going through by The Buddah, and I had the chance tonight to get them back on the bike.  I replaced the fuel lines, put the stock airbox back on (man is that thing tight to work with) and got everything put back together.

Started and ran beautifully within just a few minutes of getting everything put back together.  After tweaking the idle, it warms up quickly and holds the idle without any problems.  I took it around the neighborhood and all of the problems I noted in the original post are now gone.

I can't say enough about the level of service and expertise that Buddah put into my project.  Extremely low prices, fast turn around time and excellent communication including pictures and commentary. 

Thanks much for getting this GS running again.  My wife now officially blames you!

Jerry

Gaaaaaa ... all the time it happens ... Sometimes it happens in reverse too ...
I go over and buy some old POS off someone's front porch ... and the wife usually comes out beaming as I have it in the truck and says, thank you so much ... you've made me so happy.
Hey Cal76's wife seemed happy I fixed his GS. So I am 1 and 1 this week. 
Glad to know it worked ... sorry about the delay in mailing. In my life random crap happens all the time. I guess my 165 mile commute just leaves me with more risk huh. I run to a post office one day only to find they closed down at 11 am cos they lost electricity ... WTF ... lights were on when I got there @12:30. Used the APC aand sent stuff, but the other stuff, I had to take bac cos it didn't fit.
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Buddha.