Quote from: quiktaco on September 24, 2008, 08:44:47 AM

Quote from: Revere2 on September 23, 2008, 06:39:34 PM
CNN=Communist News Network

Love it...never heard that one before.

There's no good choices like always, and the one really bad choice has brainwashed the left like usual.  He's even gotten to some of the right, with his good looks and advertising...I mean news coverage...I mean non biased news coverage-covering both left and right-sides of Obama's face.

If you honestly believe that those opposed to your candidate are consistently brainwashed, perhaps the problem isn't the brains of the opposition.

Perhaps I need to re-evaluate CNN, which I think of as being dumb, but fair.  Then again, a compromise is perfect when neither side is happy, and I've thought CNN has been too right leaning many a time (see war coverage up until 2006 and the current economic coverage for specific examples).

When someone says "there are no good choices" for president, it usually means that they don't like their party's candidate.  Which Republican would you rather see running for President?   I thought McCain should have won the primary in '00.  Perhaps you disagree?  Did you prefer Dole in '96?  Did you like Guiliani this year? 

My ideal candidate would be Ron Paul with a few tweaks.  I don't like his policies on removing our presence in other countries.  That alone would make me not vote for him.  A few other issues concerning smaller things, I also disagree with, however, he tries to be a moderate Libertarian, and I see why he comes with this platform.  These issues however, do still get ruled by the state, so I guess that's a good thing.

So in general, Ron 'tweaked' Paul.

BTW - CNN has some good and some bad, so yes, it's probably a fair channel to watch, as long as you don't only watch the shows that are primarily your views, and not the others.

Yes, I don't see any good choices.  My choices consist of either the Rep or Dem's because those are primarily the only ones who have any shot.  There are better ones outside of those parties, but I vote so that my vote will count in the present, not in future elections.

Maybe this will help -- I know I'm much better informed after reading this:

I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....

* If you grow up in Hawaii , raised by your grandparents, you're 'exotic, different.'
* Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers,  you're a quintessential American story.

* If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
* Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.

* Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.
* Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.

* If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.
* If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive and next in line behind a man in his eighth decade.

* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian.
* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and then left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a true Christian.

* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
* If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state's school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible.

* If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't represent America's.
* If your husband is nicknamed 'First Dude',  with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

Yep you got it straight. McCain/Palin 08

Once again everyone feels compelled to contrast the VP candidate to the Presidential candidate on the other side.

Sounds like soemone feels threatend to me.

I can not and never will agree with taking this country even furtther down the road to socialism which is exactly what the community organizers ideals exemplify.

Personally I would prefer Ron Paul, but voting for him would be throwing away this country and handing it to the libs to do with as they please.

My vote isn't so much for a candidate I approve of as it is a vote against one I disapprove of.

Now we all know who I am voting for. Dis anyone have any doubts? Nuff SAID!

By Jove, I think he's got it!!!

Quote* If you grow up in Hawaii , raised by your grandparents, you're 'exotic, different.'
* Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers,  you're a quintessential American story.

He lived in Kenya for a while as well, but that's not why people think he's different.  It's because of his radically liberal, borderline socialist views.

Quote* If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
* Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.

That whole Muslim thing is over played.  It was once questioned because he attended Muslim schools, his Dad was Muslim, and his brother is Muslim, whom also says that his brother, Barack, is Muslim.

Quote* Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.
* Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.

Who said he's unstable.  I've always said that he's a very smart, well educated man, that can rally many people.

Quote* If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.
* If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive and next in line behind a man in his eighth decade.

During his time as a Senator, he didn't achieve anything.  Those 131 bills you speak of include getting a postage stamp made.  Small stuff, nothing important.  And everything he's served on is more concerned with the welfare of the rest of the world, than his own USA.  During his time in Chicago, he fought against the reform of the corruption.

Quote* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian.
* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and then left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a true Christian.

HE'S NOT A PROTESTANT CHRISTIAN! Just cause you call yourself something doesn't mean that you are.  That church is a Racist, Afro-Only, Marxist professing, Black God, Black Jesus worshiping congregation.  IT'S NOT CHRISTIAN!!!!!

Quote* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
* If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state's school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible.

Who's to say what's age appropriate first of all.  I don't want my kids to learn about sex in school.  I will teach them, and they will learn what is right and wrong in line with our beliefs.

Quote* If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't represent America's.
* If your husband is nicknamed 'First Dude',  with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

She wasn't working for the betterment of her inner city.  She made $273, 618 working there.  A place that would purposely charge more for prescriptions to those who had no insurance.

Sarah Palin is a "real" woman!!! A true pistol packin' momma!!! WUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!
It's so refreshing to see a "real woman" these days out in the public eye instead of these liberal hollywood types with hairdos that look like the rats have been sucking on it all night screaming feminism now feminism forever, burn your bras, anti-american, blah blah blah.
It truly is refresing to gaze upon Sarah.

You guys are too easy -- thanks for reinforcing my post!!!!

Why do you see my post as reinforcing yours?  That makes no since.

If that Marxist leaning Socialist Barack Hussein Obama is qualified, then she is DAMN sure qualified.

both tickets suck, as usual its voting for who sucks less.

It seems that no one is talking about Obama's ties with Odinga, the radical Communist who was running for the Kenyan presidency this last year.  Odinga is Obama's biological cousin (which Obama does not denounce).  (Obama Sr. is Odinga's Uncle).  Either way, Obama is a supporter of Odinga.

When Odinga lost the election in Kenya, he claimed that the voting was rigged, and that started riots in the streets, resulting in over 600 dead, and many Christian Churches burned to the ground.

Odinga sounds like he is cut from the same cloth as Obama.  Same platform.  This is what I am afraid of.  Obama is openly supporting this man, and if these are his views (which they are), then he will do the same in this country. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtxNQ

BTW, Technically, if your father is Muslim, then you are automatically Muslim.  It doesn't mean that he has not left the Muslim faith, or ever agreed with it.  However, if this is so, then he would be marked for death by the Muslim community, because he commited the worst offence...leaving Islam.  And under Sharia Law (which Odinga supports), Obama would be put to death.

I can't qrgue the thoughts and policies of the Libritarian Party.  After all, it has a huge following, being the fifth largest political party just behind the Constitutional party and Ralph Nader's Green party.

Key tenets of the Libertarian Party platform include the following[5]:                         Strait from wiki
                                                                                                                             v
--Adoption of laissez-faire principles which would reduce the state's role in the economy. This would include, among other things, markedly reduced taxation, privatization of Social Security and welfare (for individuals, as well as elimination of "corporate welfare"), markedly reduced regulation of business, rollbacks of labor regulations, and reduction of government interference in foreign trade.
--Protection of property rights.
--Minimal government bureaucracy. The Libertarian Party states that the government's responsibilities should be limited to the protection of individual rights from the initiation of force and fraud.
--Strong civil liberties positions, including privacy protection, freedom of speech, freedom of association, and sexual freedom.
--Opposition to civil rights laws that regulate the private sector, such as affirmative action and non-discrimination laws.
--No government interference in reproductive rights, including access to abortion. (Right-libertarians and Libertarians for Life usually do not support abortion, but they believe that the federal government has no say in regulating the procedure).
--Support for the unrestricted right to the means of self-defense (such as gun rights, the right to carry mace or pepper spray, etc).
--Abolition of laws against "victimless crimes" (such as prostitution, driving without a seatbelt, use of controlled substances, fraternization, etc.).
--Opposition to regulations on how businesses should run themselves (e.g., smoking)
--A foreign policy of free trade and non-interventionism.
--Support for a fiscally responsible government including a hard currency (commodity-based money supply as opposed to fiat currency).
--Abolition of all forms of taxpayer-funded assistance (welfare, food stamps, public housing, Health care, etc.)

Definately a great party for a Loud mouth, rich, land owning, gun toting, crack smoking, prostitute with no worries outside of the US and no cares on how the lower class gets food and shelter.  The lower class being people with only a 4 year degree and less because our economy is so bad only doctors and lawyers can stay ahead. 
I guess imagrants would be happy because with less border protection, it will cost less to come to the US, but I hope they are not expecting Social Security because it will be non-existant.  Of course the Republicans are doing their part to rid the US of Social Security by using it as their little piggy bank and borrowing from it whenever the mood strikes. 

I took a few minutes to read about Ron Paul and even he dosen't fall into their category.  He is a Texas congressman, a physician, and a best selling author.  He is also one of the more middle of the road republican cantidates ever.  Ron Paul with tweaks is someone else.  I can say that about anyone.  I support George Bush with tweaks.  I agree with you 100% with tweaks.  Obviously no one agrees with anyone completely, but they are who they are.  And Paul is very unsure.  He opposes Roe vs Wade. but supports that it is a states decision.  Kind of like saying;  I won't have abortion because the people of Texas don't like it, however, it may be ok other places.  Even though a libritarian stance would be to prioritize individual liberty and seek to minimize or even abolish the state.  And just when I thought Paul could not get stranger, I read that he is in favor of withdrawling from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and the United Nations.  Which are only two of the more important organizations in recent history.  You see Obama as dangerous, this guy is far far more dangerous!! 

McCain is running on the "I was a POW" platform.  He, of course changes his mind like every other politician and person, but McCain strait lies when it suits him or his purpose.  "...the streets here are safe.  We walk around with no body armour.." McCain said when speaking of how safe it is in Iraq.  Of course, another video shows them in full gear and the whole area was checked before they came into public.  Actually they would basically do similar things for protection in the US; bullet proof vest and a sweeping of the perimeter.  Why did he feel it was necessary to portray it as so safe.  He is admittedly not educated in economics and we desperately need to get our economy under control.  The one thing that we do not need is another maverick that will attack first and make excuses later and further bankrupt our already fragile economy. 

Obama is well educated and understands what is happening today.  He is well spoken, I am not for Bush, but it bothers me when he says something so stupid because he represents all of us and McCain is less educated than was Bush.  I can only hope that Obama wins this election, he will balance our national budget, he will responsibly end our direct involvement in Iraq and restore the world's view of America.

Supporters of Obama/Biden...
• Liberals
• Communists
• Marxists
• Terrorists
• Atheists
• Gays
• Black Power
• Poor
• Lazy
• Farrakhan (Black Muslim leader)
• Bill Ayers (Homeland Terrorist)
• Hollywood
• Uninformed Media Followers
• Che Guevara followers
• Islamics
• Did I forget anyone?


Supporters of McCain/Palin...
• Everyone else

The fact that you see NATO and the UN, as good, is why you like Obama, and that explains a lot.

QuickTaco.............may I commend you on an EXELLENT post!!!!

Quote from: quiktaco on September 24, 2008, 05:29:07 PM
Supporters of Obama/Biden...

• Did I forget anyone?

Some guy with 4 purple hearts and a GS - how many do you have? None? Thought so.

McCain/Palin - because there's nothing quite like meeting the children of the women you raped and asking "Who's your Daddy?"

McCain/Palin - just one chicken-bone away from having our nuclear launch codes in the hands of someone who wants to bring on the Rapture.

Hallelujah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "We've" been waiting a long time my brethren!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We will rise like the Phoenix from the ashes and start anew...........to a "true" New World Order". Learn how to fish and hunt and have plenty of staples and of course..............ammo stacked high to the ceiling. You might have to develop a "cold heart". That is a plus in situations like that.............coupled with love and mercy as well.

I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
Mohandas Gandhi

Anyone else notice that Obama apparently intends to debate himself this Friday??