Grreat ... thanks, I know I now got 98 + crap and not one of the bloody things fits right ... gotta do all 98+ and well screw it, I'll surface the thing 1/16 ...

Thanks much.
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i guess their is a chance they did half year stuff in 97

I doubt it, and I dont seem to find a 98 at all, the 97 may be carried into 98 and 99 up was different. Anyway Love the 89-95 and I guess 89-97 top triples.
I got these off bikes that had been wrecked or had blown transmissions or what not ... so no idea what is on them ... I didn;t buy sight unseen and ship it, I just bought good but mismatched and incomplete ... booya ... take that fleabay ... what, I would've been cheaper if I bought matched stuff on ebay ... really ... booo hoooo hooo ...
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OK so how did this pan out ?
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Quote from: Mdow on September 22, 2008, 04:36:20 PM

In that first pic, the kat FE makes the thing look right even ... that front fender fits it so perfectly and the whole bike looks right ... no other way to describe it. That clip on and dash and everything just fits like it was made for it. And I am not discounting the possibility that some suzuki bean counter put the GS with skinny forks and 1 disc at the last minute to save a whopping $20. Like ... in 1988 summer they built the GS and they also redesigned the kat that same year, and they were fitting the kat's new and improved FE to the GS and other bikes ... much like the Kat and GS got the same wheel, and so many other parts ... when Mr bean counter interrupted and said to the CEO ... who obviously was not a rider ... say, we can make this bike with this skinna ass crap and 1 disk and it will save us, $1.30 ... Mr Ceo agreed, and the rest as they say ... was total crap.
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Quote from: The Buddha on September 24, 2008, 11:51:41 AM
OK so how did this pan out ?
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they still suck

so ill just get new rotors and pads this winter i think and rebuild the calipers

Bwaaaa ... I'll take the bad rotors and calipers then ...  cheap ...
Seriously, The ones I did literally will stoppie ... one of them in fact did literally by accident and shocked the skinny black dude who was riding it up and down my street ... f*(ker was doing 80 in a 25. And I never had to bleed any ... you're making the kat FE swap look bad, you got some thing wrong man ... you hit it too hard it will clean toss you over the damn bars.
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ya i know its way worse then my GS brakes were. i just need to do new pads and rotors i think im going to pull the pads and sand them up abit

Somthing is wrong, brake fluid on the brakes wont make them non existent. Clean with carb cleaner.
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Quote from: The Buddha on September 24, 2008, 01:50:48 PM
Somthing is wrong, brake fluid on the brakes wont make them non existent. Clean with carb cleaner.
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they are exsistant i have been riding it all week. i just have to crush the lever to get it to stop.

you got a idea on somthing eles it could be?  the lever is firm so i don't think air in the lines

tryed carb cleaner and tryed brake cleaner they make it worse till they start to burn of or evaporate then they just go back to how they were

ok well i think i might have fixed it. i went to rebleed them today. and found somthing i missed





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The second bleed screw on each caliper ........ 4 pots have a bleed screw on eather of the caliper 4 total i bleed one on each

If it has air it feel spongy, not like a rock and no brakes ... but if it works hey ... who cares.
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ya but i had a decent bit of Dot4 con out of them then the fluid turned blue so im hoping its a step in the right direction its raining now ill have to wait till another day to figure out how much it did

Niiice ... was the dot4 brown in color ... that = water and water can get things stuck ... even without getting rust ...
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yes brown but im going to pull them apart and rebuild calipers this winter also

Oh yea, we must rebuild ...
This is freaking america's favorite pastime ... heck its the main job ... 2 days after 4 million people are drowned by a 20 foot wall of ocean ... the first words out of their mouth is ... we will rebuild ... Moron's ... the ocean doesn't like you being there, and the ocean will always win ...
Now for you Mdow ... you know how many bikes I have had ... over 30 ...
You know how many calipers I have rebuilt ... 1 in the 89 I owned in the first 3 years of owning it ...
You know why ... I forgot to clean the pistons on the outside, and forgot to take the cap off the master cyl and pushed the pistons back in with a C clamp ... broke one C clamp, bought another one and went to town on it ... till I had a river of brake fluid in my garage ...
1 call to my friend I realised my mistake ...
OK so for the actual reason why rebuilding stuff at random does nothing more than waste your time and money ...
The seals hold in fluid.
The brake works off line pressure from the master cyl.
If you're getting squishy lever feel ... the master cyl isn't sending the full pressure it should send down the line. So a master cyl rebuild will be what you need here.
If your lever feel is great, and fluid is leaking form the caliper then caliper seals are not sealing. Then caliper rebuild is neccesary.
If lever feels like a rock, and the brakes are still bad ... but not leaking, rebuilding is doing squat. Cleaning, bleeding, getting the crap out etc etc etc ...
BTW If I remember you can split a caliper without disturbing the piston ... I did it to a VX rear brake one time ... same as GS rear, maybe same as the Dual opposed piston in the katana front ... GS fronts are different I know that. But splitting and cleaning will work far better than a rebuild ... in fact when you do rebuild, the fact that you split them and cleaned them is what will give you the better brakes.
You need a clean and refill and bleed ... maybe you need to get someone who knows what they're doing instead of randomly rebuilding them ...
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i know how to rebuild calipers its about 14 bucks to do them and its not hard and i can clean them and paint them.

its also the easyest way to get all the dot4 out. im going to rebuild them eather way

the pistons were sezed when i got them so im not 100% sure that the seals are holding all the fluid plus who knows what junk is in the calipers

You get all the dot 4 out by splitting it and pouring that crap out, and spraying it with cleaner and drying it.
Which will be the first step in the rebuild. So bingo ... you do that, and you can skip the rest for solving the problem.
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BTW you can do it today ... have enough DOT 5 right ... just spray cleaner, carb cleaner brakecleaner etc etc and open and toss the crap, tooth brush it all clean and you're good.
caliper rebuild can be done in winter ... yea  ... winter.
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Quote from: Mdow on September 25, 2008, 10:30:26 PM
yes brown but im going to pull them apart and rebuild calipers this winter also

yup winter is still the plan