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Stripped oil filter cap bolt and new SV front end swap questions.

Started by Agno, October 30, 2008, 03:23:09 PM

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Agno

Ok.  So changing my oil 2 days ago I stripped the lower bolt that holds my oil filter cap on.  The cap seems to be oil tight but the nut just rotates both ways eternally without tightening or loosening.  Anyone ever done this bone-head move? Any ideas on how to remedy the issue?

In other news, my roommate is replacing his SV front end with one from a Gixxer.  So, I may be able to get my hands on an upgraded 2005 SV front end for little/no $$$.  Any ideas on how difficult this would be?  Should I pass?  Any thoughts would be appreciated.
91 Suzuki GS 500 (in pieces)
06 Suzuki GS 500F (not running)
09 Suzuki GS 500E (done!)
07 Suzuki RMZ-250 supermoto
03 Triumph Speed 4
05 Triumph Daytona 600
07 Triumph Speed Triple 1050
16 KTM 500 exc

Roadstergal

I'm assuming that's an SV650?  I don't think it's worth the trouble.  There's a reason he's replacing it. :p

werase643

nut....vice grip should get it off then replace the stud

front end.....41mm and dual brakes.....just have to get the stem modded
they are budget forks....but better than a set of GS forks
want Iain's money to support my butt in kens shop

The Buddha

I thought SV legs are much much longer than GS.
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Roadstergal

Quote from: The Buddha on October 30, 2008, 05:12:21 PM
I thought SV legs are much much longer than GS.
Cool.
Buddha.

Might the ignition position and steering lock also be different?

A front end swap is almost always a pain, so you might as well make it a really good front end. ;)

gearman

I measure the SV fork tubes about 24mm shorter than the GS. The tubes are spaced about 20mm wider in the SV triples.
'06 SV650S*****'05 FJR1300***** '94 GS500 (not mine-I operate the wrenches)

Agno

Quote from: werase643 on October 30, 2008, 03:55:35 PM
nut....vice grip should get it off then replace the stud

front end.....41mm and dual brakes.....just have to get the stem modded
they are budget forks....but better than a set of GS forks

What would be the procedure for replacing the stud?  Something a newb could handle?

Appreciate the opinions on the front end swap.  Very tempting but does look like a whole swarm of problems. 
91 Suzuki GS 500 (in pieces)
06 Suzuki GS 500F (not running)
09 Suzuki GS 500E (done!)
07 Suzuki RMZ-250 supermoto
03 Triumph Speed 4
05 Triumph Daytona 600
07 Triumph Speed Triple 1050
16 KTM 500 exc

The Buddha

If its 1 inch shorter ... OK that should work ... However you need to measure the top of the fork from the contact patch with the suspension unloaded, measure the GS the same way and compare the 2. I think SV has a 120 front tire dont it.
And Yea steering lock wont fit prolly, and I doubt you can get the dash fitted up ... even with my cut and weld job type ...
And finally, is a SV FE adjustable for rebound ?
If not ... yea all the work and little benifit. Also neck bearings on a SV prolly are ball ... so that another $$$ ...
Anyway, it could be doable, but putting the effort ... may not be worth it.
Cool.
Buddha.
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Agno

The more I look at the sheer number of differences between the two the more I tend to think I agree with you Buddha.  That being said, it comes with racetech cartridges, new springs, protaper bar,hooked up brakes, and even a pair of CRG mirrors.  Damn my laziness.
91 Suzuki GS 500 (in pieces)
06 Suzuki GS 500F (not running)
09 Suzuki GS 500E (done!)
07 Suzuki RMZ-250 supermoto
03 Triumph Speed 4
05 Triumph Daytona 600
07 Triumph Speed Triple 1050
16 KTM 500 exc

The Buddha

Oh F^&k ... well ... it sorta be lost on a GS, but the GS is heavier than the SV I'm sure ... well buy it if its cheap enough and we can always rig up some stuff ... Duct tape ... here we come.
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Roadstergal

Quote from: The Buddha on October 30, 2008, 07:14:30 PMAnd finally, is a SV FE adjustable for rebound ?

SV1000, yes, SV650, no.  An SV1000 FE is actually an upgrade for a 650. ;)

And of course, there's the question of use... a good track suspension isn't a good street suspension...  We did a GSX-R1000 suspension swap onto m'boy's SV1000S to make it a better track bike, and even that had a whole slew of PITA attached.

The Buddha

People fit SV1000 brakes on the 650 dont they ... something like a stright on disc and caliper swap ?
Yea GSXR 1000 FE on SV650 or 1000 is a popular upgrade I've heard. I dunno why suzuki just gives you 1 step smaller than what you need.
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werase643

ok so remind me again which front end is a bolt on easy peasy affair for a GS.....other than a GS
want Iain's money to support my butt in kens shop

Agno

Well, the time has come to finally address my stripped bolt issue.  Never got an answer on replacing the stripped bolt.  Should I take it down the street to the mom and pop bike shop and have them do the work, or is this something I can manage by my newbie self?

I suspect that I will have to purchase tools in a similar dollar amount to what it would cost me in labor at the shop.  I would keep the tools, but i would be doing the work myself, thereby greatly increasing the chances that injure my poor bike further. 

Thoughts?  (preferably from someone who has replaced one of these stripped studs)
91 Suzuki GS 500 (in pieces)
06 Suzuki GS 500F (not running)
09 Suzuki GS 500E (done!)
07 Suzuki RMZ-250 supermoto
03 Triumph Speed 4
05 Triumph Daytona 600
07 Triumph Speed Triple 1050
16 KTM 500 exc

werase643

buy the new stud first....

drain oil
remove cover
helps to remove exhaust sys
is there enough room to install 2 nuts on the stud....
jam them together and screw out the stud
is there enough room to get a vice grip in there
screw out the stud
install new stud(easy to do with jamming 2 nuts together)
want Iain's money to support my butt in kens shop

gstwizzle

Funny,

I did the same thing....stripping the studs out and what not.  Are the studs something that needs to be ordered direct from suzuki or is this something we could match up with at the hardware strore?!?! 

utgunslinger13

Wouldn't it be better to replace the studs with an allen bolt? Something less likely to strip?
Check out my current project build:

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=41982.0

werase643

no, the studs are better
you don't want to cycle the screw threads
(install/remove) a bolt in AL
you will wear out the threads in the block
then you have a huge fricken mess to fix

1/4 inch drive is all ya need to install the oil cap nutz

they break cuz people monkey fist them....not that they are defective
want Iain's money to support my butt in kens shop

utgunslinger13

I guess that makes sense, my first thought was to get rid of the caps since they seem to be the weak link.
Check out my current project build:

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=41982.0

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