Instead of endless talking let's do something now about heading off gun control in the Obama Administration.

There are about 4 dozen "Blue Dog" Democrats in the House of Representatives whose seats could be in jeopardy in the next election if they oppose our 2nd Amendment rights, plus a number of moderate Democrats in the Senate. But thanks to the machinations of the Democratic caucus it may still be possible to pass such gun control legislation as a permanent assault gun ban, gun show ban, so-called "child-proof" guns and huge taxes on guns and ammunition.

The following letter is designed to head off any gun control effort by sending a message to the Democrats that their majority in Congress may be in danger if they advance a gun control agenda. It's a lot easier to stop such an agenda before it gets started than after a new President makes it a priority.

Believe it or not this approach does work as politicians really hate to get people who appear sensible and may be influential and/or generous with campaign funds mad at them.

Below is a letter form for your representative and senators. It is oriented toward Democratic legislators but will work OK for Republicans if you take out the next to last "vote against the party" paragraph. Just fill in the blanks with the legislator's name, including his title, and your name.

Names and addresses are available from: http://www.capwiz.com/nra/dbq/officials/
If any of your legislators are newly elected the addresses should be available through their campaign websites.

email works pretty well in my experience but not as well as a snail-mail letter as some legislators either aren't computer literate or are too computer literate and just generate a canned meaningless response designed to make you think a human actually read it.



Dear __(Representative/Senator)____________________


With a new administration due to take office I am writing to you to express my concern that there may be attempts to pass new gun control legislation, and specifically to reinstate the failed Assault Gun Ban, part of the Democratic Party Platform.

Not only did the ban have no effect, according to an FBI study, but among the banned rifles were those which have become the most popular target, hunting and self-defence rifles in America. I cannot see how anyone, especially a President-elect, could square a supposed devotion to the 2nd Amendment with reinstating a firearm ban based on nothing but cosmetics and a bad image in the entertainment media.

If you vote for reinstating the Assault Gun Ban or any other gun control measure which harrasses innocent gun owners, interfers with their enjoyment of their sport and their right to self defence, interfers with their purchase of firearms or reinstates the Assault Gun Ban I will have no choice but to support your opponent in the next election.

I am well aware of the horse-trading that goes on in party caucuses to allow members with endangered seats to avoid voting on contentious legislation while still arranging to have enough votes for passage. If the majority of your party votes for and passes any of the gun control measures I described or for an Assault Gun Ban I will support your opponent in the next election regardless of how you, personally, voted.

I sincerely hope you will win my future support and that I hear your views on this subject.


Yours truly,

______________________


(don't forget your address and telephone number)

* I copied this from another forum *

r u nuts? he has not even been sworn in yet. if you want to be productive join the NRA and don't waste your time with letters that no one reads.   we, dems, have a president and majority in the house. write all you want.  it won't change anything.

***yawn***

Quote from: frankieG on November 10, 2008, 10:32:57 AM
r u nuts?

Does it make me crazy that I want to preserve the second amendment?  I suppose we should just forfeit our rights to the government huh?

I am all for free guns ... the first Idiots I will put a bullet in ... the CEO's ... in no particular order ... Angelo Mozilo, Michael Perry, duck Fuld, Henry Paulson, Alan Greeenspan, OK the housing panic list is here ...

1) David Lereah
2) Lawrence Yun
3) Mike Norman
4) Blanche Evans
5) Catherine Reagor
6) Greg Swann-dive
7) Tom Adkins
Connie De Groot
9) Kendra Todd
10) Nicholas Retsinas
11) Hank Paulson
12) Angelo Mozilo
13) Bob Toll
14) Leslie Appleton-Young
15) duck Gaylord
16) Charles McMillan
17) David Asman
18) Michael Perry
19) Larry Kudlow
20) Donald Luskin
21) Kim Carpenter
22) David Crisp
23) Brian Brady
24) Sonny Shrivastava
25) Suzanne

I am not against guns ... I am just for judicious use of them ... the best way to use a gun is to nail a CEO in the balls.
Cool.
Buddha.

Buddha is not about ahimsa ... buddha is all about putting a cap in yo ass if you're a robbing, lying, theiving, crook who robs the investors first and tax payers next.

If guns kill people then keyboards misspell words and forks made you fat.



My grandfather just sent me this spam:

QuoteI was once asked by a lady visiting if I had a gun in the house. I said I did.

She said 'Well I certainly hope it isn't loaded!'

To which I said,  of course it is loaded, can't work without bullets!'

She then asked, 'Are you that afraid of some one evil coming into your house?'

My reply was, 'No not at all.  I am not afraid of the house catching fire either, but I have fire extinguishers around, and they are all loaded too.'

already in the NRA and already buying ammo and guns as fast as i can till jan when obama with most likly violate the bill or rights. this will only prove that we are one step closer to a dictator. if you can change the 2nd amendment why not change the first.  its just a step down a dark road.

Dictator?  Are you kidding me?  G.W. Bush was the one to say he wanted to be a Dictator!  Where were you for that?  Guys...  The president is not the king, no matter how hard they try to be.  They can't do anything to any Amendment without the support of WE THE PEOPLE.  The people WANT guns, therefore the 2nd Amendment can't go away.  And... Taking away the 1st Amendment?  WTF?  Obama is a religious nut, just like every other politician.  There's NO WAY that would happen.  He CAN'T change the 2nd Amendment.  And NO politician would try without the support of the American people.  You guys are WAY off the end of this.  If you think the Clinton Bans did anything to gun ownership, you're kidding yourself.  The ONE THING they did was shutup the liberal moms and cops about gun bans.  You could still get any weapon, clip, and Ammo you wanted.  The two most restrictive weapons control measures in the US were passed in 1968 and 1986.  Feel free to look up the president in 1986.


This is just a stupid-ass distraction, just like the supposed riots...  There were no riots when Obama won.

Don't believe for a second senators don't read their mail/email- when the bailout was still pending I sent an email to both of Oregon's senators, and got replies back from both- and an explanation from Gordon Smith (R) why he voted for it. Maybe it was just a form letter with a signature, but someone read it- your voice counts on some level- likely not to some liberal fanatic, but they will read it.

Damn Frankie, we need to get into the gun business.  Talk about feeding on fear and raking in the cash...

Quote from: frankieG on November 10, 2008, 10:32:57 AM
r u nuts? he has not even been sworn in yet. if you want to be productive join the NRA and don't waste your time with letters that no one reads.   we, dems, have a president and majority in the house. write all you want.  it won't change anything.

maybe not, but it may prevent his re-election. frankie, if you were in politics as you say, you would know people READ these things. granted those letters are adressed to those at the top, liek mayors senators etc not vice mayors or such. but they are read. ive got return letters that say as much. even if they were stock letters, err stock replies. they are read

"From My cold dead hands!"

Quote from: The Buddha on November 10, 2008, 01:44:21 PM
I am all for free guns ... the first Idiots I will put a bullet in ... the CEO's ... in no particular order ... Angelo Mozilo, Michael Perry, duck Fuld, Henry Paulson, Alan Greeenspan, OK the housing panic list is here ...

1) David Lereah
2) Lawrence Yun
3) Mike Norman
4) Blanche Evans
5) Catherine Reagor
6) Greg Swann-dive
7) Tom Adkins
Connie De Groot
9) Kendra Todd
10) Nicholas Retsinas
11) Hank Paulson
12) Angelo Mozilo
13) Bob Toll
14) Leslie Appleton-Young
15) duck gheylord
16) Charles McMillan
17) David Asman
18) Michael Perry
19) Larry Kudlow
20) Donald Luskin
21) Kim Carpenter
22) David Crisp
23) Brian Brady
24) Sonny Shrivastava
25) Suzanne

I am not against guns ... I am just for judicious use of them ... the best way to use a gun is to nail a CEO in the balls.
Cool.
Buddha.

Buddha is not about ahimsa ... buddha is all about putting a cap in yo ass if you're a robbing, lying, theiving, crook who robs the investors first and tax payers next.

what about those two ceo;s on obamas team? the fannie/freddie jerkoffs

Quote from: b_long_1 on November 10, 2008, 08:35:38 PM
"From My cold dead hands!"

I think the took Charleton Heston's guns actually- you know once his hands reached that particular condition.....

here's the thing. there are too many people in this country that own guns. in order for the government to successfully destroy the 2nd ammendment they'd have to take each and every gun from every person, nome by home. can you say civil war? no way our elected officials are that retarded.

I duno who wrote that letter but I have more respect for my Congressman than to send something like that to him. There are better ways to get your point accross than to tell them you are going to vote for someone else?

I wouldnt put my name to those words.

haha you repubs are such retards. Always falling for fear mongering. You really think Obama gives a shaZam! about gun rights at this time? Think of all the other stuff that actually matters to him: economy, war, environment, reversing GWB exec orders, shutting down Gitmo

The last thing Obama cares about is gun control yet I saw a report the other day that gun/ammo sales are through the roof. All the stupid right wingers are upset they got housed this election so they need a way to take out their anger and frustration by gobbing up guns/ammo and declaring it's the end of the second amendment since we have a lib president. get a life.

Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on November 10, 2008, 06:36:54 PM

Quote from: frankieG on November 10, 2008, 10:32:57 AM
r u nuts? he has not even been sworn in yet. if you want to be productive join the NRA and don't waste your time with letters that no one reads.   we, dems, have a president and majority in the house. write all you want.  it won't change anything.

maybe not, but it may prevent his re-election. frankie, if you were in politics as you say, you would know people READ these things. granted those letters are adressed to those at the top, liek mayors senators etc not vice mayors or such. but they are read. ive got return letters that say as much. even if they were stock letters, err stock replies. they are read

Letters are useless. Ask me how I know. My gf used to work for our Senator processing letters. Let me drop some knowledge on you. First DON'T EVER SEND A LETTER VIA USPS. Here is what happens when you send a letter US mail. It gets sent to D.C. From D.C. it gets routed to a series of 3 X-ray facilities that scan all mail going to the government. This takes about 2 weeks per facility so figure 6 weeks added on to your letter. Then it gets sent to your state's senator's office. THEN the FIRST thing the aides do is open the letter and photocopy it and throw the original out. All the x-rays destroy the paper and makes it crumble when you touch it so they have to copy it as soon as they get it. THEN they skim your letter and assign it to a category (gun control/abortion/taxes/etc). Once your name, category and stance (yea or nay) are recorded into the computer your letter is filed away and a generic response is pulled up. The aide tweaks the letter, then prints it out to be shipped back to you.

Your senator will NEVER read your lever or even know of it. They are so busy and on a need to know basis.

Moral of the story: EMAIL YOUR REPS. It gets there instantly, doesn't need to goto xray facilities, doesn't waste paper and you get a response in 2 weeks.
Hope this helps. 

Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on November 10, 2008, 08:54:21 PM

Quote from: The Buddha on November 10, 2008, 01:44:21 PM
I am all for free guns ... the first Idiots I will put a bullet in ... the CEO's ... in no particular order ... Angelo Mozilo, Michael Perry, duck Fuld, Henry Paulson, Alan Greeenspan, OK the housing panic list is here ...

1) David Lereah
2) Lawrence Yun
3) Mike Norman
4) Blanche Evans
5) Catherine Reagor
6) Greg Swann-dive
7) Tom Adkins
Connie De Groot
9) Kendra Todd
10) Nicholas Retsinas
11) Hank Paulson
12) Angelo Mozilo
13) Bob Toll
14) Leslie Appleton-Young
15) duck gheylord
16) Charles McMillan
17) David Asman
18) Michael Perry
19) Larry Kudlow
20) Donald Luskin
21) Kim Carpenter
22) David Crisp
23) Brian Brady
24) Sonny Shrivastava
25) Suzanne

I am not against guns ... I am just for judicious use of them ... the best way to use a gun is to nail a CEO in the balls.
Cool.
Buddha.

Buddha is not about ahimsa ... buddha is all about putting a cap in yo ass if you're a robbing, lying, theiving, crook who robs the investors first and tax payers next.

what about those two ceo;s on obamas team? the fannie/freddie jerkoffs

OK duck Fuld is one of them ... I also forgot AIG CEO really ... and kill them no matter whose team they are on ... cancer is cancer is cancer ... dont matter if its on your butt or your foot.
Cool.
Buddha.

I wish we could give the people on the list cancer.