Embryonic stem cell research!  Let's get crack-alackin' on growing our own organs, replacing the skin on critically burned little girls, and finding out what else we can do with those little gems! 

Maybe one day women won't need to feel guilty for shacking up with the "bad boy" with muscles and a fast car, and then dumping the load on guys that go to church voluntarily!  One wonders if a market will be started...
Sluts might one day be proud to say that "abortions tickle"!
All hail embryonic stem cells!




Discuss amongst yourselves, filthy monkeys.  Riding around on your filthy two wheels. 

Frustrated much ... w-lad.

BTW yea yea yea they say its the schnitz ... but you do know of cases where its not worked right. Cancers return, often more dangerously and several others.

Promising yea, but dont freaking come near me with that thing at this time.

Maybe in 20-30 years.
Cool.
Buddha.

Hey!  Stop raining on my parade!


Besides, everyone on this forum has had (or is currently fighting) cancer.  It's a natural human occurrence that normally gets resolved by natural-killer cells without making it's way to the lymphatic system.  Ask an oncologist.


Time for me to do some research.  Figure out which segment of the population most enjoys having their little bastard offspring sucked out of their rotten bleed-holes.  Maybe they'll finally approve the take-home kit for Wal-mart drug aisles! 
This could really take off!  Better drop your condom shares! 

"Next on Maury! 
Shaneqqwa sold her fetus, but she's still making her loser boyfriend pay child support!" 

I'm gonna start printing bumper stickers for strippers:
"This car fueled by stem cells and broken dreams"

If I have ESC's applied to road rash, could I qualify for dependent tax credits? 

Maybe I could finally realize my hopes of researching large mass biological batteries. 

Will trailer-park teenagers soon become the most influential segment of the population? 

Will pimps now be funded under the Public Health Institute, as Supply Officers? 



A tough one:  If the pope is ill with a fatal condition only curable with ESC's, would he commit suicide by not allowing treatment? 

even as a christian im somewhat stoked about this. BUT ive got reservations. if the cells are pulled from non viable embryos, then i can support it. but ive got reservations abotu other means. such as abortion

Given that there likely won't be any change in the abortion laws, shouldn't some good come from the situation? 
I'm catholic and personally, I don't give a shaZam! what you do.  If the kid comes out crying and you terminate it, you're a murderer, if it's not breathing on it's own just don't involve me in the process.  Not my problem, not my place to impose my beliefs on others.  Except for communism, I will f%$king kill the next communist prick @$$hole I meet that wants my f%$king tax money so they don't have to work.

Quote from: spc on March 11, 2009, 12:10:29 AM
Given that there likely won't be any change in the abortion laws, shouldn't some good come from the situation? 

Yeah, it should.    I'm just trying to start sh!t.
Abortion fights are funnier than watching Kimbo get knocked out. 



In about 4 years, I'm gonna have to assist a few abortions.  Oh, happy day.   

I don't have a problem at all with stem cell research.

I have a problem with tax dollars funding it.  Let's get one thing straight...there has never been a ban on the research.  There has only been a ban on federal funding for it.  And you know what?  That's good.  There is nothing that gives the federal government the power or authority to spend our tax dollars subsidizing a private corporation to do the research they want to do.  If someone wants to do the research, by all means go ahead.  But fund it yourself.

Some things will get killed by lack of federal funding. If feds wont fund anything at all then it is a bit more even playing field. Even so ...

Honestly the problem with democracy is the same as the problem with funding wihtout federal backing. The minority will get crushed.
The majority can vote to take away rights for the minority, and federal govt is needed to stop that. Same with federal funding and private funding.

Debilitating diseases that afflict the minority will be ignored for curing the discomfort of the majority.

Few dollars will go to any of the causes and they will just die.
Cool.
Buddha.

Quote from: The Buddha on March 11, 2009, 08:47:03 AM
Debilitating diseases that afflict the minority will be ignored...

Not true at all, simply because of the profit incentive we have in this country.  The person who finds a cure for those diseases is going to rake in the cash as a result.  The desire to make a profit off the discovery is what drives innovation...not the goodness of their hearts.  Sure, there are some people out there who truly do things just to help.  But the vast majority of innovators and inventors do it because they recognize that the ability to offer a good or service no one else can means a big pay check.  If there's a big pay-off waiting in the wings to whoever finds a cure, someone will find that cure...with or without tax money.

Ever heard of the National Institutes of Health?  Funded by congress and responsible for authorizing grants responsible for staggering amounts of research?  
We're not talking about gov't funding here, we're talking about fetus guts. 

Come on, folks.  Nobody's interested in a nation based on Christianity is sponsoring research on babies?


Ready.....  Fight!

Sorry pal, I'm not for it but I will not set here and fight with you about it.
For me if I am going to fight with some one it will be about salvation.
All the other stuff are side issues.

and this is a MC fourum 

cafeboy

Quote from: wladziu on March 11, 2009, 10:24:35 AMWe're not talking about gov't funding here, we're talking about fetus guts. 

Nope...try again.  Your fight-picking skills need some work.

Quote from: wladziu on March 11, 2009, 10:24:35 AM
Ever heard of the National Institutes of Health?  Funded by congress and responsible for authorizing grants responsible for staggering amounts of research?  
We're not talking about gov't funding here, we're talking about fetus guts. 

Come on, folks.  Nobody's interested in a nation based on Christianity is sponsoring research on babies?


Ready.....  Fight!

Isn't europe also christian predominantly, how come they are mindlessly going on through with it.
Isn't by the same token vaccination voilating the same religious beliefs.

We're trying to run a planet with 7 billion that was designed for 1 billion or less people. Sorry, some of this is going to go toward the majority, as well as some species which are going to die.
Find a safe and gradual way to run it down to a manageable 4-5 billion and we'll automatically start seeing life as precious. For now its cheap and its eating up our resources.
Cool
Buddha.

china does that with Pop control. and we see where that is going lol

It's a win-win for me. 



Either you guys fight over nature's practical joke (and I get to laugh), or you don't (and I don't have to read it)!!   

There's absolutely no right answer, yet people take up arms about it.  No one sees the humor in that? 




You're so right, CafeBoy.  You're exempt, homie. 

Quote from: wladziu on March 11, 2009, 08:43:25 PM
It's a win-win for me. 



Either you guys fight over nature's practical joke (and I get to laugh), or you don't (and I don't have to read it)!!   

There's absolutely no right answer, yet people take up arms about it.  No one sees the humor in that? 




You're so right, CafeBoy.  You're exempt, homie. 

Hey wladziu, forgive my ignorance , but what is as you put it, " natures practical joke"? if i may inquire

Sorry, this is done on my PSP.

While I'm pretty much against abortions for the mere fact that you can't keep their pants up.
I do believe we should have a choice. In my instance my OB/GYN told me if I tried to have a child it would either kill me or irreversible heart failure. Or the fact I have a fifty percent chance of passing it on to my child.
I also have genetic problems. So, I should be excited about and I am we can use adult stem cells though. Because if we use undesirables today. Damn PSP 2Bcont

Mary if i read correctly, the purpose of the obtaining them from embryos is to get them before they become heart liver eys or ( insert part here) cells. i could be wrong though. and you and your psp lol i was wondering why you werent on messenger. lol, i hadnt thought about teh psp. i never could get on teh messengers on my psp either unless i used the web based ones

Yeah, nature's practical joke!

Cells with such great potential for health and healing, hidden inside embryos.  To further our advances in health sciences and our future, we must destroy our future and any advances that particular sacrificed life might have made. 

None of you see that it was inevitable that we'd come to this point? 
It's like wrapping the toilet in plastic film.  It's inevitable that your spouse is gonna wake up and use it at some point in the morning, most likely groggy. 
We're just as groggy.  With our theological disagreements nowadays. 



So, yeah, a practical joke. 
I was trying to see how many people on the forum would fall for it. 
Cause, if you argue that "God doesn't like abortions" - then why'd he make stem cells so powerful, then make them the building blocks of unborn babies?
If you argue and fight about "choice" - then, you're extending the jugular of your morality. 
It's absolutely ridiculous!!! 
Either way, you're right and wrong, at the same time.  And, any choice you make has you feeling like crap. 
On the one hand - we're killing ourselves.  On the other - we're killing ourselves! 
So, yeah, sounds like the perfect practical joke. 

Arguably the rich are saving themselves at the expense of the poor, and they will eventually starve the world.
Cool.
Buddha.