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Started by Canonball, March 14, 2009, 06:40:38 AM

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Canonball



what the hell did i get myself into lol

anyone got any tips, suggestions, etc?

joshr08

dude this is a super easy project.  i did a few of these for my buddy.  1: take your time.  2: dont forget to use a spacer around the walls so your flooring doesnt slide on you.  3:  If you didnt get the block from them to smack the boards together for a tight fit us a cutoff from another flooring board just lock it in hold it up off the floor a bit and give it a nice smack with a hammer not to hard and your smack block will last almost the hole floor.  4:  NOTING is scrape or junk until the floor is completely done.  good luck man
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k&n air filter,pro grip gel grips,removed grab handle,pro grip carbin fiber tank pad,14/45 sprockets RK X-oring Chain, Kat rear shock swap and Kat rear wheel swap 160/60-17 Shinko raven rear 120/60-17 front matching set polished and painted rims

murf425

It's not hard at all.  I did the entire living room and hallway at my parents' house with my dad and bro-in-law in less than a day...and that was with the occasional beer break.  :thumb:
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joshr08

oh yeah i did forget the manditory beer breaks :cheers: 
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mods
k&n air filter,pro grip gel grips,removed grab handle,pro grip carbin fiber tank pad,14/45 sprockets RK X-oring Chain, Kat rear shock swap and Kat rear wheel swap 160/60-17 Shinko raven rear 120/60-17 front matching set polished and painted rims

murf425

Oh...if you don't have one, rent/beg/borrow/steal a table saw.  Do not try to do that with a Skil saw.   :cookoo:
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trumpetguy

A chop saw is the perfect tool for cutting length.  A table saw would help for ripping the last board in a room if you need to.

I installed two large rooms and it was a PITA.  One room went over concrete and one over a subfloor.  Both rooms were glued down.  I used engineered wood floor, not laminate.  I bought the less expensive flooring that needed glue or nails.  It looks fantastic, but it is tough to install that way.

The room with a subfloor had a concrete basement wall around the perimeter.  The top of the wall was not level with the subfloor.  When carpeted, they had simply smeared about a foot of leveling compound, which worked fine under carpet pad and carpet.  Under a smooth surface like a wood floor, you need it pretty damned level.  I spent a full day mixing and spreading leveling compound to get the edges right.  I had to blend the levels over about a 3 foot span in places.

My only advice is take your time and get it right.  Don't be in a hurry.
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ohgood

Quote from: trumpetguy on March 14, 2009, 09:32:57 AM
A chop saw is the perfect tool for cutting length.  A table saw would help for ripping the last board in a room if you need to.

I installed two large rooms and it was a PITA.  One room went over concrete and one over a subfloor.  Both rooms were glued down.  I used engineered wood floor, not laminate.  I bought the less expensive flooring that needed glue or nails.  It looks fantastic, but it is tough to install that way.

The room with a subfloor had a concrete basement wall around the perimeter.  The top of the wall was not level with the subfloor.  When carpeted, they had simply smeared about a foot of leveling compound, which worked fine under carpet pad and carpet.  Under a smooth surface like a wood floor, you need it pretty damned level.  I spent a full day mixing and spreading leveling compound to get the edges right.  I had to blend the levels over about a 3 foot span in places.

My only advice is take your time and get it right.  Don't be in a hurry.

and never ever ever spill any water on it. ever !

we have 2" x 1 7/8" x 20' flooring in the rental house (in ms). it will take water just fine. the lock n snap stuff you're putting down likely has plywood backing (like the house we're renting here in al) and will warp all to hell.

be careful with the fluids ! :)


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My wife somehow got me to agree to installing a new floor before I go back in the garage.   :bs:

How the f%$k did I get myself roped into this?

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GeeP

The snap-lock stuff is pretty easy.  Just take your time, use up your shorts, and get your spacings correct.  There's no such thing as a "random" human-generated pattern.  It looks better if you stick to 3rd's.

A section of flooring and a cheap Dozuki works well for getting under door casing.

Here's what I do:

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trumpetguy

Wow, Geep, that's unreal work!  Looks fantastic.
TrumpetGuy
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1982 Suzuki GS1100E
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"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed." -- Dwight D. Eisenhower

yamahonkawazuki

Quote from: trumpetguy on March 14, 2009, 09:32:57 AM
A chop saw is the perfect tool for cutting length.  A table saw would help for ripping the last board in a room if you need to.

I installed two large rooms and it was a PITA.  One room went over concrete and one over a subfloor.  Both rooms were glued down.  I used engineered wood floor, not laminate.  I bought the less expensive flooring that needed glue or nails.  It looks fantastic, but it is tough to install that way.

The room with a subfloor had a concrete basement wall around the perimeter.  The top of the wall was not level with the subfloor.  When carpeted, they had simply smeared about a foot of leveling compound, which worked fine under carpet pad and carpet.  Under a smooth surface like a wood floor, you need it pretty damned level.  I spent a full day mixing and spreading leveling compound to get the edges right.  I had to blend the levels over about a 3 foot span in places.

My only advice is take your time and get it right.  Don't be in a hurry.
yup what TG said. hell ive got almost 1200 linear feet of mahogany, gotta figure out what to do with it. GL wiht project, and update with pics as it goes along . time for first beer break Eh? :cheers:
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spc

Geep, that is really nice :o

yamahonkawazuki

I agree wholeheartedly
Jan 14 2010 0310 I miss you mom
Vielen dank Patrick. Vielen dank
".
A proud Mormon
"if you come in with the bottom of your cast black,
neither one of us will be happy"- Alan Silverman MD

jserio

i'd walk on it....    :icon_mrgreen:
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DoD#i

I prefer real wood to plastic (laminate) wood, but the plastic can be a lot faster. I've done a bunch of stuff which would not be confused for GeeP's work with the thin all-wood parquet squares, which glue down - with the advent of the water-based glue, that's pretty easy, if you don't have the evil glued-down carpet pad I've had to deal with (and scrape off before I can put the wood down). With the solvent glue the parquet was a bit fussy to do, as you had to plan 45 minutes ahead, cut to fit, take up, lay glue, wait and then lay parquet.

Neatest thing I did was to checkerboard (two colors) the hallway - since it was not a big space, rather than working with the 1-foot squares it comes in, I broke it down into the 6 inch squares it's made up of to make a smaller checker.

Getting it on sale, I've been able to do wood for a buck to a buck and a half a square foot - not too bad, and cheaper than the last time I looked at the laminate.
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Canonball

so i got it started and now that i'm getting the hang of it it's getting pretty easy. sucks cuz i have to work on this in between work, i'm thinkin it should only take a few days to get it all done *knock on wood*

here's what i've got so far:






and i just noticed my dog snuck into the first picture

joshr08

nice i like the narrow board look :thumb: what is that wall about 20 feet long?
05 GS500F
mods
k&n air filter,pro grip gel grips,removed grab handle,pro grip carbin fiber tank pad,14/45 sprockets RK X-oring Chain, Kat rear shock swap and Kat rear wheel swap 160/60-17 Shinko raven rear 120/60-17 front matching set polished and painted rims

Canonball

thanks, yeah i think 24' when i measured

annguyen1981

Dude...  you've got an infestation of black rats...  HUGE black rats.

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