Quote from: shiznizbiz on April 25, 2009, 08:36:16 AM
I use air and water

You and every other living thing on the planet-----good point.

Changing your oil on a regular basis is more important than what oil you use 

somebody link this properly for me please


http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs6/i/2005/064/c/0/Beating_A_Dead_Horse_by_livius.gif

Quote from: werase643 on April 25, 2009, 09:42:46 AM
somebody link this properly for me please


http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs6/i/2005/064/c/0/Beating_A_Dead_Horse_by_livius.gif

Here's the list... Death and Taxes, Oil, Gear and Tire Threads 

Eeermmm....we havent done spark-plugs for a while 

Quote from: sledge on April 25, 2009, 11:17:50 AM
Eeermmm....we havent done spark-plugs for a while 

That's an easy one, Iridium next......

Right click a image anywhere on the net and select, "Copy Image Location".

After that, just paste the link in the, "Insert Image" selection like any other picture and you're done.


- Bob

Okay. 

You wanna play?

How exactly is this "shear factor" a problem?  Let's see some data.  Carbocation rearrangement, halohydride shifts, whatever you've got. 

Give us some thermodynamic numbers so we can follow the reactivity pathway on the first hydrocarbon to break down, and through which process.  Then show us how that compound doesn't exist in motorcycle oil. 
Maybe you can walk us through the Arrehenius equation for the activation energy of the reaction, so we can see the exact point when "shear factor" occurs.  Then, once you find which compound suffers first:  then, break apart the Ea to show us the exact composite of delta H, enthalpy, entropy, through various pressure slopes.  Then, compare that to factual data from ICE's. 
And, what is the actual mechanism? 
Is there catalytic hydrogenation, perhaps?  Or, maybe just a cis- trans- isomer flip, like with 1,4-dimethylcyclohexane? 
Maybe a resonance hybrid or a conjugated diene Sn2 reaction, like 1,3-pentadiene? 


Your knowledge of oil is limited to simply how many engines you and your buddy have blown up, perhaps how many temperature readings you've taken, a few articles you've read in Popular Mechanics, the brand using your favorite color in the packaging. 

Maybe years of changing oil in either automobiles or factory machines, using only the type of oil that your plant manager (or whichever supervisor) requires you to use.  Because, chances are, you're pretty low on the totem pole and can't pick new brands with which to experiment.
You haven't got the faintest clue about what makes one lubricant better than another (outside of something you call "shear factor" but can't support).  You happen to have barely enough knowledge of ICE's to annoy the crap out of everyone here, but not enough to fully support a single claim you've made with true authority. 

Meaning, that you're better qualified to make decisions between trashbags (clear or black polyvinyl chloride?), what type of mustard tastes better with certain hot dog brands, and maybe the correct thread pattern on a certain bolt on a certain machine. 

That was cool!

Wlad?

Give him some credit Pal. In less than a fortnight OJ gone from not knowing if his bike has a crush-washer on the drain plug to being an authority in the field of Tribology.......its an amazing  achievement and I think it deserves a round of applause .

Bleh!  He sounds like Revere. 

Quote from: sledge on April 25, 2009, 02:43:21 PM
Wlad?

Give him some credit Pal. In less than a fortnight OJ gone from not knowing if his bike has a crush-washer on the drain plug to being an authority in the field of Tribology.......its an amazing  achievement and I think it deserves a round of applause .

Sledge reminds me of the black knight in Monte Python----he's had his ass kicked, his arms and legs chopped off, and he still believes he's in the fray.
I admire that!

Quote from: wladziu on April 25, 2009, 02:19:55 PM
Okay. 

You wanna play?

How exactly is this "shear factor" a problem?  Let's see some data.  Carbocation rearrangement, halohydride shifts, whatever you've got. 

Give us some thermodynamic numbers so we can follow the reactivity pathway on the first hydrocarbon to break down, and through which process.  Then show us how that compound doesn't exist in motorcycle oil. 
Maybe you can walk us through the Arrehenius equation for the activation energy of the reaction, so we can see the exact point when "shear factor" occurs.  Then, once you find which compound suffers first:  then, break apart the Ea to show us the exact composite of delta H, enthalpy, entropy, through various pressure slopes.  Then, compare that to factual data from ICE's. 
And, what is the actual mechanism? 
Is there catalytic hydrogenation, perhaps?  Or, maybe just a cis- trans- isomer flip, like with 1,4-dimethylcyclohexane? 
Maybe a resonance hybrid or a conjugated diene Sn2 reaction, like 1,3-pentadiene? 


Your knowledge of oil is limited to simply how many engines you and your buddy have blown up, perhaps how many temperature readings you've taken, a few articles you've read in Popular Mechanics, the brand using your favorite color in the packaging. 

Maybe years of changing oil in either automobiles or factory machines, using only the type of oil that your plant manager (or whichever supervisor) requires you to use.  Because, chances are, you're pretty low on the totem pole and can't pick new brands with which to experiment.
You haven't got the faintest clue about what makes one lubricant better than another (outside of something you call "shear factor" but can't support).  You happen to have barely enough knowledge of ICE's to annoy the crap out of everyone here, but not enough to fully support a single claim you've made with true authority. 

Meaning, that you're better qualified to make decisions between trashbags (clear or black polyvinyl chloride?), what type of mustard tastes better with certain hot dog brands, and maybe the correct thread pattern on a certain bolt on a certain machine. 


Very impressive wlad, you have just spewed 3 or 4 paragraphs of pompous meaningless yap that has added absolutely nothing to the conversation.
But alas, it Looks like you and sledge have made a very meaningful connection here----the next logical step would be to get a room.

Quote from: sledge on April 25, 2009, 02:43:21 PM
Wlad?

Give him some credit Pal. In less than a fortnight OJ gone from not knowing if his bike has a crush-washer on the drain plug to being an authority in the field of Tribology.......its an amazing  achievement and I think it deserves a round of applause .

Bye the bye sledge, when is the next installment of Milestones in History. I'm really looking forward to another photo journey, this one being perhaps that of your glorious march to that unfathomable 15.000 mile mark------please keep us posted on your progress.

Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on April 25, 2009, 09:26:20 AM
Changing your oil on a regular basis is more important than what oil you use 

You are correct stevo!

Quote from: ojstinson on April 25, 2009, 03:46:52 PM

Quote from: sledge on April 25, 2009, 02:43:21 PM
Wlad?

Give him some credit Pal. In less than a fortnight OJ gone from not knowing if his bike has a crush-washer on the drain plug to being an authority in the field of Tribology.......its an amazing  achievement and I think it deserves a round of applause .

Bye the bye sledge, when is the next installment of Milestones in History. I'm really looking forward to another photo journey, this one being perhaps that of your glorious march to that unfathomable 15.000 mile mark------please keep us posted on your progress.

eerrmmm.....are you running out of material? you have already done this one......try and keep up eh?

Quote from: ojstinson on April 25, 2009, 03:18:31 PM

Quote from: sledge on April 25, 2009, 02:43:21 PM
Wlad?

Give him some credit Pal. In less than a fortnight OJ gone from not knowing if his bike has a crush-washer on the drain plug to being an authority in the field of Tribology.......its an amazing  achievement and I think it deserves a round of applause .

Sledge reminds me of the black knight in Monte Python----he's had his ass kicked, his arms and legs chopped off, and he still believes he's in the fray.
I admire that!

Monte or Monty?......c-mon OJ.....get it right, we gave you the language, use it properly.

......anyway, do me a favour and talk some more about oil. My dogs just died and I need a good laugh.

Quote from: sledge on April 25, 2009, 04:12:12 PM
......anyway, do me a favour and talk some more about oil. My dogs just died and I need a good laugh.

That's terrible, now you have no friends at all. Now I understand the source of your hostile and combative attitude.

I'll be his friend

he's funny