To a point, I agree.  McCain was one of the most liberal republicans that have been elected to represent the GOP.  I do however think that he would not have done things in the same way.  But that could be debated forever, cause he wasn't elected, so we'll never know.

our luck, he'd have died, and *shudders* palin would have been president.....   

ive no complaints against palin

cuz her kitty cat's so hot???   

no cause took the opposition over a month to come up with essentially nothing, would be like, god  forbid obama dying. then wed have  biden as pres.

i don't really know much about Bidden..... 

It seems that everyone hates Palin so much, only because she is a good wholesome Christian.  Yeah, shudders...what would happen if a wholesome person were elected to the presidency.  Oh the humanity!

As for Biden, I don't know all that much about him, but from what I do know, is that he's 1st in line for being as liberal as Obama.  So that right there is horrible, and he's also one terrible politician.  He's got so many gaffs, I'm surprised they haven't sewn his mouth shut yet.  Anyways, like I said, I don't know too much about him, but he is uber liberal.

On a side note, I'm wondering if we can set up a direct deposit for our future paychecks.  It would be a lot easier that way.  Just deposit our entire check into Obama's pockets, and then he can give us what he thinks we deserve.  Perfect, I've been waiting my whole life for this system.  Oh Crap!  I'm a White Conservative College Educated Christian Male, who works a full time job - NOT in a union.  I guess I'll be getting nothing!

I can only speak for myself but I was down on Palin because she appears to have the IQ of a mayonaise jar. Remember she has foreign affairs experience because she can see Russia from her front door  . I was a big McCain supporter till he picked her; showed a lack of judgement I believe. Although I do believe that it wouldn't be too much different if he had won. I think its amusing that obamas approval rating is coming back down to earth. And its not really because hes screwed up too much yet its just because half the country thought he was some sort of messiah with magical powers to fix everything with the wave of his hand. but it turns out hes just a guy, a relatively good and intelligent guy but still just a guy. but I digress

I don't see why people quote something like 'seeing Russia from her front door' and then disregard any actual experience.  She is the Governor of Alaska, which houses one of the largest national defenses in all the USA.  She is one of the top people in charge of our national defense.

If we quoted Obama on things like 57 states, and then disregarded all of his actual experience, then we wouldn't have other gaffs, and trivial things he's done and been involved with.

You also say that her IQ appears to be so low, however, this is just your assumption based on what?  Her appearance/persona/vocabulary/body language?

What is it about her that you do not like?  She is smart, she is very well knowledge in domestic and foreign affairs.  She hold great conservative positions on Government, of which are very refreshing, compared to all the liberal based-republican positions of the last many years.

Anyways, Obama is the president now, so we have to deal with it, or join in the movement to impeach him before this becomes the USSA

Unless I'm missing something as Gov. she has no say in the military and any other national defense that happens to be in Alaska. She has control of the state national guard but not the US military that is stationed in alaska. And dont forget the time she claimed russian warplanes flew over Alaskan land but in reality they didn't even cross US airspace just got close to it which is a far cry from over land. And as far my opnion on her IQ its just an impression I got from watching her public speeches and debates and is simply my opinion but it appears to be an opinion that many share.

i agree on Palin. as far as her IQ is concerned. she said her state borders russia. and also, as previously stated, how much "national defense" power does the Gov. of alaska really have? i'm not trying to say that alaska isn't vital to our defense, because it is. but, i watched her public speeches as well and some of the time, she seemed a little....ditzy? for lack of a better word. i'm not saying she's not a good person, or doesn't have good values or any of that. but as a potential leader of the country, i just don't think she's the right fit. you can't quote someone's moral compass as a reason to lead this nation. need an example? W.   like yourself QT, i'd like to have someone in office as the same morals, Christian values as myself. but, they also need to be competant for the task at hand as well.

Quote from: jserio on June 23, 2009, 02:45:46 PM
i agree on Palin. as far as her IQ is concerned. she said her state borders russia. and also, as previously stated, how much "national defense" power does the Gov. of alaska really have? i'm not trying to say that alaska isn't vital to our defense, because it is. but, i watched her public speeches as well and some of the time, she seemed a little....ditzy? for lack of a better word. i'm not saying she's not a good person, or doesn't have good values or any of that. but as a potential leader of the country, i just don't think she's the right fit. you can't quote someone's moral compass as a reason to lead this nation. need an example? W.   like yourself QT, i'd like to have someone in office as the same morals, Christian values as myself. but, they also need to be competant for the task at hand as well.

I didn't mean that she was a leader in the government's military or anything, but she is the leader of the Alaskan defense, which is a huge part of the countries defense on the west coast.

Ok, I agree that she does come off as ditzy, but she is rather smart.  I don't know how she would be as a leader of the country.  I don't know if the fit would be right or not.

I never felt that W's moral compass was right.  He claimed the same thing that most politicians claim about their morals, but there was a lot of hidden agendas that he was involved with...as well as Obama now.

I want someone who has good morals/values and isn't concerned about pleasing lobbyists, and who will cut the government down to size.  Weather she'd have what it takes...as Governor, I think she did, and I think she would, but we may not have a chance to find out.

I googled Palin's IQ and it seems to range from 89-110 Running back out the door! Let the fun begin Ya KNOW@

LOL,

Mary

gotta admit, weve spent as much in 3 mos as w spent in 3 years it seems

Quote from: Toogoofy317 on June 23, 2009, 06:49:33 PM
I googled Palin's IQ and it seems to range from 89-110 Running back out the door! Let the fun begin Ya KNOW@

LOL,

Mary

I'm sure these are not accurate.  Even though they may be in that area or may but much higher, I'm sure anyone who's posted something of this sort, has been speculating, or basing it on something that holds no value.  

Once again, we go back to the 57 state quote from Obama - this must mean that he's around 40-50 something right?  You see what I mean?

I'm just kidding! I know they are probably fake those scores don't match her supposed SATs. BTW I'm a Christian Independent voter. I want the person who will do the job I could care less what party they are from. But, apparently most or all politicians are in bed with some sort of lobbyist or owe someone something. I doubt we will ever see a president based on values or have any sort of moral compass. Almost seems like an oxymoron a politician with a conscience!

Why I don't even bother to argue about them anymore.

Eh!

Mary

QT, i never heard anything about Obama's "57 state" comment.  but that sounds like a less of a "fluff" than, "my state borders alasksa". not defending obama, just making a statement. do you have a link to this statement he made?

Boy dontcha know how to use google! took me like 3 seconds and 2 were posting on here LOL!

And for your viewing pleasure http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

Mary

thanks mary, i'm feeling lazy tonight. lol. 

Dont forget the austrian language thing