Hello Friends,
I was wondering if there is going to be a 500 Injected on the market.
Here in Brasil where I live, all motorcycles as of 2009 must be fuelinjected,..is there a 500 injection on the market?
would be interesting...more horsepower.

Thanx
Pete

I'll be impressed when I see the final product. I've never tried messing with any type of fiber glass before. It looks like a pretty productive skill to have though.

To be honest with you though. I'd really like to see someone cruising around with a windshield like your first picture, before all the cutting, bending, and taping.

Ok I think tt poste din the wrong topic, but I'll shoot. There have been many threads on this issue, two or three have tried doing themselves, to no avail, and I havent heard of anyplans to do so yet. The carb version is just so cheap to manufacture, and as long as it still passes emissions, Im sure they'll keep it that way. But when they do intro a FI GS500 look for a price jump of at least 4 or 5 hundred.

Quote from: Chanse on June 13, 2009, 05:50:21 AM
Ok I think tt poste din the wrong topic, but I'll shoot. There have been many threads on this issue, two or three have tried doing themselves, to no avail, and I havent heard of anyplans to do so yet. The carb version is just so cheap to manufacture, and as long as it still passes emissions, Im sure they'll keep it that way. But when they do intro a FI GS500 look for a price jump of at least 4 or 5 hundred.

and that will NEVER fly here in the USofA. people won't spend extra money for a better product. we like things cheaper, even if they fail/suck in 2 summers.

Hey ona side note though I went in to the stealership and they have 08 GS' still on the floor marked down to 4300 brand new, I think the shop in Lafayette still has one 07 marked down to like 4000 thats just retarded. Im kinda jealous...lol

Quote from: Chanse on June 13, 2009, 11:54:13 AM
Hey ona side note though I went in to the stealership and they have 08 GS' still on the floor marked down to 4300 brand new, I think the shop in Lafayette still has one 07 marked down to like 4000 thats just retarded. Im kinda jealous...lol

uh huh, and you can get a 200x model that's been titled -once- for around $2000.

brand new is only good for the first 1.2 miles.

Quote from: Chanse on June 13, 2009, 05:50:21 AM
Ok I think tt poste din the wrong topic, but I'll shoot. There have been many threads on this issue, two or three have tried doing themselves, to no avail, and I havent heard of anyplans to do so yet. The carb version is just so cheap to manufacture, and as long as it still passes emissions, Im sure they'll keep it that way. But when they do intro a FI GS500 look for a price jump of at least 4 or 5 hundred.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZn9kc0fNyc&NR=1

Well here's a video of a guy claiming to have done it.  I'm not sure what else to say about it, I mean I really don't know the first thing about fuel injection and the video is pretty blurry.  I guess you could shoot the guy a message on YouTube?

Here's some pics of it in another thread http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=42199.msg485636#msg485636  I don't know about the fuel injected part but it is definately turbocharged.

Ohgood, what are the best selling bikes in America today?  Harleys.  Are they expensive?  Yes.   Are they higher quality than the competition?  No.  So the typical biker today spends more for less, and he does it on purpose because he wants a perceived American product (even if 80% of it is foreign) that looks and sounds cool.  There goes your theory at least where bikes are concerned, although I do share some of your frustration about the financial choices some people make.  I still can't believe people buy bottled water, especially since the news has reported far and wide where that water comes from, municipal water sources.  Wait, my temple is hurting again... but it's a free country, at least for now, and they may choose to spend their $ as they wish.

I would also say that folks who believe that we live in an age where everything around us is crap and stuff used to last a good long time in the good old days are living in a dream that never quite existed.  I believe products in general last longer than ever.  There are some exceptions like furnaces, hot water tanks, and clothing, but on average products last much longer than they used to with less or no required maintenance, especially where transportation is concerned.  Even Harleys are much better than they once were, not because of their foreign frames, wheels, brakes, suspension, and electrical systems, but because their engines are much better than before 1983.  It's still based on an antique design, but that's part of the charm that sells like hotcakes.

Quote from: bill14224 on June 16, 2009, 04:23:21 PM
1) Ohgood, what are the best selling bikes in America today?  Harleys.  Are they expensive?  Yes.   Are they higher quality than the competition?  No.  So the typical biker today spends more for less, and he does it on purpose because he wants a perceived American product (even if 80% of it is foreign) that looks and sounds cool.  There goes your theory at least where bikes are concerned, 2) although I do share some of your frustration about the financial choices some people make.  I still can't believe people buy bottled water, especially since the news has reported far and wide where that water comes from, municipal water sources.  Wait, my temple is hurting again... but it's a free country, at least for now, and they may choose to spend their $ as they wish.

I would also say that folks who believe that we live in an age where everything around us is crap and stuff used to last a good long time in the good old days are living in a dream that never quite existed.  I believe products in general last longer than ever.  There are some exceptions like furnaces, hot water tanks, and clothing, but on average products last much longer than they used to with less or no required maintenance, especially where transportation is concerned.  Even Harleys are much better than they once were, not because of their foreign frames, wheels, brakes, suspension, and electrical systems, but because their engines are much better than before 1983.  It's still based on an antique design, but that's part of the charm that sells like hotcakes.

1) well, yes and no. put two bikes (for this theory, both are gs's) side by side in a showroom. EFI gs500f, and a carb'd gs500f. they're both 2010 models, both yellow (one of the best colors), and both come with a free helmet. the efi model costs $3-400 more. it will never sell. people are cheap, and dumb.

2) i'm all over the frustration.

as far as harleys go, people buy a harley because they WANT a harley, and have credit. if they didn't have credit, HD would have died long ago. can't see many people walking in with a check for $20,000 and plunking it on a bike.

i dunno, i'd really like to see a fuel injection -anything- in the drivewawy, know that it will start and run smoothly, without all hte hiccups that carbs habe. one day, ya. not likely today, or tomorrow, but i'll get one. one day.

if the cost was only 300 to 400 dollars more I would go EFI for sure.

Agree though most people probably would buy the cheaper version

Hey yall.  I wouldn't buy a fuel injected anything without a warranty.  That way if something goes wrong, the dealership would fix it.  I work on a lot of things, and it is just pretty hard to work on fuel injection without the proper diagnostec equipment required with todays more sophisticated models.  Besides, the GS500 is stupid fun just as it is.  Why make it more complicated when it does fine (except for the charging systems)?

I called Suzuki Australia to ask about the possibility of a GS500 w/ EFI. They said in short...

1. They are not aware of any plans to make one with EFI

2. The current carb version exceeds Australian emissions limits as it is

3. The 2009 Build bikes are soon to start being built and they do not have EFI (These bikes will hit the shores in Aust in 2010)

4. They have no information either way on GS's being withdrawn from the UK market

Onward....

Yes Harley's sell based on a name. But there is more than a name and that is the ability for a person to work on the bike themselves. I called these bikes "organic" and "no frills". Compare the GS500 to the Honda CB400 (water cooled, efi, v-tec - and other stuff preventing the backyard guy fixing it themselves). Of course, Suzuki also makes a Ride By Wire bike but it doesn't have the popularity of the GS.

Maybe GS's will go the same as Triumphs did - they now come with EFI disguised to look like a carbie to satisfy people who want the Look of carbs. Supposedly to meet the EUs emissions 3 standards. But that doesn't mean you cannot buy a carbie version - 2nd hand.

People like organic bikes - not all, but a good number of them.

Michael

NOT BSing!!!!!  One of my bestfriends is attending Motorcycle Mechanic's Institute, and he has caught word of a fuel injected GS500F.  He said one of the instructors was talking about it.  I'll check more into it!

Quote from: mister on June 22, 2009, 01:25:05 AM
I called Suzuki Australia to ask about the possibility of a GS500 w/ EFI. They said in short...

1. They are not aware of any plans to make one with EFI

2. The current carb version exceeds Australian emissions limits as it is

3. The 2009 Build bikes are soon to start being built and they do not have EFI (These bikes will hit the shores in Aust in 2010)

4. They have no information either way on GS's being withdrawn from the UK market

Onward....

Yes Harley's sell based on a name. But there is more than a name and that is the ability for a person to work on the bike themselves. I called these bikes "organic" and "no frills". Compare the GS500 to the Honda CB400 (water cooled, efi, v-tec - and other stuff preventing the backyard guy fixing it themselves). Of course, Suzuki also makes a Ride By Wire bike but it doesn't have the popularity of the GS.

Maybe GS's will go the same as Triumphs did - they now come with EFI disguised to look like a carbie to satisfy people who want the Look of carbs. Supposedly to meet the EUs emissions 3 standards. But that doesn't mean you cannot buy a carbie version - 2nd hand.

People like organic bikes - not all, but a good number of them.

Michael

i know whatcha meant by organic, but this early, i needed a chuckle

emissions should be fine on a gs. it's leaner than a 2 dolla ho eatin iced-milk.

Forget organic or horsepower. If I wanted either fo those I would have gotten a different bike.
I just want to be able to start her and ride. No half choke to warm up etc.

Last week it was above 90 degrees with like 80% humidity here in Iowa and she ran like crap.

There is one simple solution that will leap frog a carb into the beyond FI territory in terms of problems.
I would put in 2-3 pumps that run @ certain times only.
First a pump to fill it - though gravity works just fine, if you knoew what the other pumps were for, you'd agree it would need this.
2nd a scavenge pump that runs the instant you shut it off for 10-60 seconds to suck all the fuel out and toss it in the tank. These 2 can be 1 pump run with relays that control where they pull/push ... it should be fitted under the carbs ideally and have a solid metal line from the drain spigot.

Then the third pump which will be fitted into the air intake will spray a light lube into the diaphragms/slides, and you can activate that guy by blipping the throttle when the bike is shut off.
You would ride as normal, and shut it off as normal. Wait till the final shut off for the scavenge pump runs. Then blip the throttle a few times if you're planning to park it for a few days - heck you could do it all the time. You could do it a few days after you have parked it if you suddently realise a week has gone by and you haven't ridden it.

Carbs have 1-2 problems only and they are so very verygood in what they do. No way FI will take their place for all the benefits - yes warranty, ease of repair etc etc ...

Carbs are killed by people. People who park the bikes, for years on end with fuel in it, wear the slides out by running dirty air filters, and deposit tons of rust in the bottom and it chokes up the bike.

You need to clean/scavenge the thing, you need clean filtered fuel going in and you need the gas out and a light lube dusted on the rubber parts once in a while to keep it from drying out.

In all these steps can even be done manually. There should be a hole in the top of the slide cover. you should eb able to unplug it and spray away manually, wd40 types. Other than that, drain the gas via the drain after you ride or after 1 week of sitting, and run a fuel filter and put in prime when you want to start up.

But get these automated and you're nearly home free. There is the float leves that go up on the old bikes - well retrofit them with the thick tang or the channel shaped tang variety of floats.

Cool.
Buddha.

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This topic is like a bad case of crabs!  Once it started, it invaded the forum, started to spread into other threads, and now it just wont die!  The simple solution to EFI on a GS?  Buy a bike with more letters!  Like a GSXR... or a CBR... you'll never get real power out of a GS.  It's already damn near bulletproof in design.  They make products for cold weather starting.  And last but not least, before you spend a ton of time, effort, money, etc. on converting to EFI to solve all your problems, learn how to actually tune your carbs!  It'll be like EFI without having to hook up a laptop!  Or you could just do it and install a USB Wi-Fi connection on your bike so you could tune it wirelessly everyday before you ride AND you could upload your music library to your bike for on the go file sharing!

Quote from: MXFun86 on February 24, 2010, 09:30:31 PM
This topic is like a bad case of crabs!  Once it started, it invaded the forum, started to spread into other threads, and now it just wont die!  The simple solution to EFI on a GS?  Buy a bike with more letters!  Like a GSXR... or a CBR... you'll never get real power out of a GS.  It's already damn near bulletproof in design.  They make products for cold weather starting.  And last but not least, before you spend a ton of time, effort, money, etc. on converting to EFI to solve all your problems, learn how to actually tune your carbs!  It'll be like EFI without having to hook up a laptop!  Or you could just do it and install a USB Wi-Fi connection on your bike so you could tune it wirelessly everyday before you ride AND you could upload your music library to your bike for on the go file sharing!

My bike with carbs work perfectly. It is about of "home made unic things". The target it is to make things not to buy things.