keep the car off  ? whatttt lol

anyways i dont know how well you are off money wise but i ended up getting my 07 from a dealer. i went in with cash in hand, i brought him down a lot. they are hurting but motorcycle dealers are typically pretty stiff on prices but like to throw in all kinds of gear for free if u stick with the price that they have, or at least thats how the ones around here have been. i however tossed him a number he couldnt refuse.

who knows, you may end up getting a free helmet, gloves, and jacket out of the deal too. might go check out a dealer if you really do have you heart set on the f model.

well i might do that, but i'm really looking to spend $2700 on a bike + $500 on gear. and that's all. i really can't spend more than that on this.

so i've just talked to the owner of the bike i'm trying to buy. she says no test rides.... sketchy. if there were a bike that didn't ride well, that would be what the owner would say. what should my argument be? i trust you guys saying that i should test ride it. she's worried about the liability. that she'll be liable if i wreck. not sure why that's such a crazy bad thing. what should we do?

She won't even let you have a test drive with cash in hand? I could understand someone maybe just being very careful, but she has to understand that it would be difficult to purchase something if you haven't been able to try it out.

yeah that's what i'm thinking. if she won't let me ride it at all, i think i'll have to let it stay. but if i say i'm not even going to come look at it if i can't ride it, i think she'll change her mind.

No need to jump start the bike with the car on so I said don't turn the car on?? Just trying to help save a start up.. f%$king flaming chinese.

haha just wondering guy. i know what you're saying.

I bought new but test rode 2nd hand at the dealer. Before going for a ride I called and asked them what the procedure is for a test ride - do I need to book in, just turn up, etc.? He said it was best to give them notice so they could make sure the bike was lubed - which really means, warmed up so I don't think horrid thoughts about non EFI. I also asked about the Route the dealer would take me on (they lead I follow). He told me and I mentioned that the maximum road speed there was 80kph and I won't even get into 6th gear at that speed, how about I create my own route? Sure, he says - after all, a sale could hinge on whether I can use all gears, right?

I book in the test ride for a few days time. Arrive. Fill out their form - including the "you crash you pay $2k insurance excess" - and show the accompanying rider a small google-maps print out of the route I want to take. He looks and says... how about I follow you. So he grabbed a 400 Burgman off the floor, rode it out into their parking lot and off we went. A 30 click test ride route that included twisties, mid speed and slow speed, city traffic, rural road, highway and bumpy road. A route that allowed me to test everything I needed to test, for me.

My number one rule was... highway speed. If I cannot ride it at speed then forget about it. And as for No Ride? Don't even bother arguing, just move on and wait for someone else (or a dealer) who will let you test ride. You may miss out on a good bike - but - you might also save yourself buying a complete lemon - supposedly ridden by a girl who cannot even sell her own bike (red flags right there for me).

Take your time when buying. There is no rush. Read this page about Inspecting 2nd hand bikes http://www.clarity.net/~adam/buying-bike.html

Michael

One more from CL:  http://harrisburg.craigslist.org/mcy/1284043743.html

When i bought my bike the PO let me test ride it but since i hadn't taken the msf course or even rode a motorcycle before i brought someone who did ride to test ride it for me.  Then when i purchased it from the guy he even let me use his plates and his insurance to drive the bike home so that i wouldn't have to trailer it. 

Their really shouldn't be any reason why they wouldn't let you test ride the bike unless their is a problem with it.  Just bring the cash and say here you can hold on to this while i test ride it to ease their mind that you have the money and aren't going to just drive off with it.

I have to admit.  If I were selling a bike, I wouldn't let someone ride it.  I"d ride it for them and even let them ride on the back.  Here's why.  A friend of mine was selling his bike.  Let someone he didn't know test drive it.  And came back half an hour later and it was crashed.  The kid didn't have the cash to give my buddy and now there's a judgement on the kid that will never be paid.  My friend paid $2000 out of his own pocket to fix it so he didn't have to turn it into the insurance company.  His rates would have gone up if he would have.  So I can't blame someone for not letting you test ride their bike.  My stipulation is if you want to test drive my bike, give me cash in hand BEFORE you ride so if you wreck it, I don't have to take care of it!  If you won't give me the cash, then you a) had no intent of buying, or b) have never been on a bike before and therefore I don't want you on my bike while I still own it!!!!

i think the worry she has is if i crash into another car and insurance has to get involved, then it would be her insurance. i told her she could hold the cash, but she is still worried about the liability. not the bike damage.

but oh well. the guy that was supposed to meet me today to buy the car never called at all. i called him and he said he'd call right back. never has. i called again and his brother answered saying he moved. i don't know why the guy can't just say "i had money problems and can't get it" or something. he's got to just go silent. i hate this car selling crap. it's the best deal on a z anywhere in the state right now and i can't sell it. so ghey

Quote from: scottpA_GS on July 29, 2009, 04:40:44 PM

The first one says... "Has been laid down twice at no speed, never been dropped."   Dropped and laid down are different? So, I guess he decided to gently lay it down because ?? It was tired? thought it would be easy to change the oil that way?

Also the lever end is broken? Also from him gently putting it to sleep?... No... IT FELL DOWN! 

 

good luck  

My 87 savage has been laid down several times this way. Starter clutch fiasco entirely took about 5-6 lay down's on the right, one time for over an hour on some car tars while the guy welded and ground and welded and ground ... then I laid it down the other way for another hour + 3 ft off the ground while I splashed gasoline+kerosene+diesel+whatever petro compound I had lying about ...

However that whole thing was done with no body, seat or anythign on it, and the controls were also removed and the bar it has on it was replaced after. But I digress.

So its been down, but never dropped or crashed ... ha scott there goes your theory ... booya.
Cool.
Buddha.

Quote from: KasbeKZ on July 30, 2009, 05:08:39 PM
well i might do that, but i'm really looking to spend $2700 on a bike + $500 on gear. and that's all. i really can't spend more than that on this.

Don't forget the cost of registration, inspection, insurance, and all the state nasties (well and all the accessories you'll want after you buy it...)  Just sayin' cause I went in with a similar budget and ended up chewing through a bunch more than I had planned.

And based on where you're looking you'd be way more hardcore than I to ride to school through the winter...  I think made it to school once on my bike, with the "yeah I'll save on gas" idea.  Although mostly that's because I still don't think I've gotten it working reliably enough to trust it to get my anywhere important.

Quote from: PachmanP on July 31, 2009, 07:38:37 PM

Quote from: KasbeKZ on July 30, 2009, 05:08:39 PM
well i might do that, but i'm really looking to spend $2700 on a bike + $500 on gear. and that's all. i really can't spend more than that on this.

Don't forget the cost of registration, inspection, insurance, and all the state nasties (well and all the accessories you'll want after you buy it...)  Just sayin' cause I went in with a similar budget and ended up chewing through a bunch more than I had planned.

And based on where you're looking you'd be way more hardcore than I to ride to school through the winter...  I think made it to school once on my bike, with the "yeah I'll save on gas" idea.  Although mostly that's because I still don't think I've gotten it working reliably enough to trust it to get my anywhere important.

Sales tax is the killer! Ughhh. I know a few people who privately bought and the seller wrote down a value much lower than they actually paid for the bike to be nice so that the sales tax was substantially lower than what I could have been. Very nice on their part, not like they would have seen the money anyways right?

that's how i always buy and sell cars. i have two bills of sale for the car i have now.

i have factored in all the taxes and gear and insurance and stuff. got it all figured out.

as far as riding to school, i'll be living there. so i just need to go home and  back once in a while. every month or so. then to my gf's school about 2 hours away once in a whiile. but these aren't pressing trips. so if the weather is bad, i won't go.

Quote from: ~*STEPH*~ on July 30, 2009, 10:20:17 AM
Or do waht I did.  1990 GS500, nonrunning.  Just took me 2 months and about $500 in parts to put it together and now it runs like a champ!  All for $800 bucks with only 12k miles on it!

thats what i did with my first of 4 gs' a 97, got for 6 bones. replaced front forks, cleaned carbs and was rollin. damn i miss htat bike, mroe than any other. ( sold it to help mom when she was diagnosed wiht stage 4 lymphoma

This looks like a really good deal too.  No pictures though.
http://baltimore.craigslist.org/mcy/1301474946.html