Wells guys and gals, this is the third bike since saturday, business is starting off great somewhat, getting a ton of calls for bikes to pic up but my trucks broke down, i acualty fit this 1972 yamha tx650 in the back of my van, i got the headliner dirty in the 03 minivan and wife anit happy, but its home. PO said the motors bored and stroked, flat top pistons, and some head work. Who knows if thats true and if so it was done before 84. Im guessing about 10 over forks with a unknown rake and strecth in the down tubes and back bone. PO removed the carbs and lost the rack and never put them back on so bike sat for 10 plus years. Im supposed to get a title in the mail but who knows if that will happen.

So she might be on the road or stripped for parts.....more than likley parts even if she runs

engine look slike an xs650 have got a friend wanting to give me one lol wiht title

It is XS650, however I dont see it as being chopped, something has to be cut and rewelded ... like the neck, for it to be a chopper.
I love it when Idiots cut the back end and call it chopper ... that's a bobber you fool.
Anyway, 72, pre 447 motor, good, but you're ideal one is 74+.
Cool.
Buddha.

Fool, you guys are fools, its is a TX!  "The TX-650 of '73 is much like an XS-2, but with a larger, more rounded tank" It probally is a 73, cause the build date is 72 on the frame, so i have not got the title yet but more than likley says 73.

And Buddha your soooo quick to jump, it DOES have metal added to the back bone and im not sure how many to the down tubes (i have not messured yet) but i can see what has been added. Also the steering neck has been cut off and welded back on with more of a rake. If you think this is bobber style your to caught up in yourself. Plus, nothings been cut off the back so i think you need your eyes checked or your ego......stick to gs's i geuss man.

Not cool
Fool

(let me guess, im going to get threatened to be kick off the site now, cause i challenged the great buddha and his mighty wisdom of everything moto. Since when did buddha become a Mr. T wanna be?, I pitty the fool!)


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Sorry dude, I didn't mean to call you a fool. Or an Idiot. I was referring to people who chop the rear fender and call it a chopper.

TX and XS are near about the same. I have a XS I am working on, and its my second XS. But yes its a TX.

Neither of my xs'es is/was a chopper.

Now that I have looked closer @ yours it seems like its just got longer forks, kinda like my neighbors CB750. I dont see where its got a cut and re weld in the neck. Metal added to back bone will make it a chopper, but it will derake it. Sorta making longer forks act like they are even longer.

Here is a cheater chopper I built the last few months.

http://picasaweb.google.com/srinath.the.man/SavageChopperBuild#
Raked @ the triples and fitted with dirt bike forks and wheel.

In the old days they would do something called a sweedish rake.
Put longer forks on it, then cut the down tubes and pull then down. That will bend the back bone to where it opens the rake up.
Then they weld the down tubes back up. Yours doesn't ahve that either, because it will need a weird bow shaped piece welded in the down tubes.

My eyes are fine, as is my ego, and that can be a chopper if you say it is, but to most people that cut frames and weld em back on etc etc, it looks an awful lot like a stock TX frame.

The motor is tipped back, and that is a dead giveaway that its got a longer front end, extra ride height and not more rake.
Mine is the same way, but that is because I raked it 9 degrees, I should ahve done 12 or so, but @9 degrees it actually handles with less effort than it even did stock.
Cool.
Buddha.

http://www.650motorcycles.com/EagleEye.html - A chopper.

http://www.650motorcycles.com/Darrens72Chopper.html - Not a chopper - just looks like and is being called as one.

Cool.
Buddha.

Well, it does have a rake and some added to the downs and back, i have a cb 750 with 8 in the back and down tubes with 10 over forks, the motor sits up high and its not goose necked. Both pictures you showed are choppers....you "chop" off the back of a bike into a chopper. Choppers dont specifically mean raking of the front. Not all choppers have a radical rake. Choppers are every thing from long forks to stock knuckles that are stripped down from uneeded things...........your calling that hardtailed xs650 not a chopper, but are saying your single 650 is??

Cut the rear and its a bobber.
Cut the front and add, or in some cases reduce rake and its a chopper. No kidding, there is one guy with a de-raked savage.

My savage is a cheater chopper. I do call it a chopper cos it has rake added, and on CL I didn't call it a cheater chopper cos those clowns will really be clueless then ... but on savage site I have called it a cheater chopper. Because there are some true choppers there.

Chopping is specifically used to refer to a bike whose steering neck has been cut and re angled.

Cut off the rear fender = bobbed.
Cut off the seat rails and remove swingarm and weld in a hardtail = hardtailed.

You can call anything a chopper - but on the xs650 and some other sites its categorised as I have mentioned.

CL Idiots call everything a chopper, including all the stock savages and the virago's that have flat blacked out paint.

I dont see what has been added to down tubes, and from what I gather, TX and XS had the same frame. But I am not familiar with a 73.
Long forks are needed for all choppers, you add to the rake, you would have a bike that drags on the ground.
I raked mine 9 degrees with the triples and I have 12 inch longer forks.

People like calling things choppers, because well, the explosion of the coolness attributed to that name.

So yea, go ahead and cut off a bracket off your GS 500 and have a cool chopper GS500. Whatever, its your bike, it can be anything you want.

Cool.
Buddha.

I took a good close look @ mine. Mine is an 82 special, and my previous one also was 82 special. So if somehting is different to a 72 I am not sure, however they were all so close to each other.

OK yamaha at that time had no idea how good their welders were. The down tubes and the spine have a tube inside a tube design radiating from the neck for a good 12-15 inches. The inside tube is welded to the outer tube in a line about 5-6 inches long.

The head is bolted to the frame on top by 2 on each side horizontal angle type pieces and those are bolted to the frame rail with triangle some or other, I dropped it off at powdercoating place a few days ago, dont remember exactly. Also that space is far too tight, just about enough to fit the relays and the coil. Exactly like it is in your pics. The down tubes in your bike also are straight, if it was modded with an extra slug it will have a curve like all swedish rake choppers.

I'd say you have long forks and no other mods. That is actually a good thing for you, its easier to sell a stock frame, who ever wants to cut it can cut themselves. Cutting and welding is the easy part, doing it wrong is the part that makes buyers scarce. You're really better off calling it a proper stock frame and selling it, more $ that way.

Long forks are worth $$$.

In the old days the prefered ghetto way to do it was to make a lower triple out of 1 inch steel and bend it so you can use the stock upper triple, the longer legs and make a raked chopper.
I have seen one of these on a CB750. I preferred to fit a KX250 fork leg set and rake the triples 9 degrees. The savage is so light that extra rake and lightened rear and front end actually make it handle with less effort than stock.

If it was over bored, well, the 72 would have been a 256 motor if I remember. See if you can look inside with a borescope, you may see a marking/name on the piston.

My 82 spun up nice and good on the starter today ... booya, good compression in both cyls. Time to throw it back together and ride in a few weeks.

Cool.
Buddha.