Tried searching and searching but no luck.  Tried looking at part numbers as well, but not sure if theres a definite answer of which years wiring harnesses will fit a 1989.  Thanks for the help!

89 Through 00.
In fact 90-00 cant be even told apart. The 89 of course was the best, the fuse box in that was just behind the battery, the rest have it under the right panel.
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Buddha.

Nice.  Thanks for the info!  I was looking at a '02 for $10 or an '89 for $25 so i'll go with the '89.

01-02 is a bastard year for some of these ... they were 1/2 way in and 1/2 way out ... they had sensors here and there ... and electronic tach ... most of the "features" were bogus. I'd mangle it to get it to work ... but for that $15 extra $ take the 89. If it was a bit more for the exact one, then I'd be temped to get the 02 ...
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found a '97 for $10 should be all set.  If the wiring harness is the problem.  Thanks again for the quick reply.

careful... 89 will have some different connectors... especially at the starter solenoid, which is specific to the 89.

But D ... wont solenoid from the 89 fit in the 97 if he dont get the 97's solenoid.

I have wired up 89's harness into a 95 recently.

Gamorg: For sure if you get it with the solenoid you are all set. If not, you can figure it easy. Just put the thing where the wiring is routed.

haven't had a lot of time to troubleshoot but last my problem was, i wasnt' getting spark when the starter was going..  only for that split second when it stopped turning the starter and the engine was still spinning.  Hadn't had too much time to troubleshoot since then.

I could always try the '97 since i already bought it, but i would be willing to bet the '89's are going to be harder and harder to find, and might want to pick one up while i have the chance.  thoughts?

Quote from: The Buddha on November 09, 2009, 01:44:21 PM
But D ... wont solenoid from the 89 fit in the 97 if he dont get the 97's solenoid.

I have wired up 89's harness into a 95 recently.

Gamorg: For sure if you get it with the solenoid you are all set. If not, you can figure it easy. Just put the thing where the wiring is routed.

Not a direct fit, different plugs/connectors. They could be changed or could use a 90+ solenoid but its mounting is different as well.

Quote from: gamorg02 on November 09, 2009, 01:51:47 PM


haven't had a lot of time to troubleshoot but last my problem was, i wasnt' getting spark when the starter was going..  only for that split second when it stopped turning the starter and the engine was still spinning.  Hadn't had too much time to troubleshoot since then.

I could always try the '97 since i already bought it, but i would be willing to bet the '89's are going to be harder and harder to find, and might want to pick one up while i have the chance.  thoughts?

Oh yea you have goats. New wiring harness wont do squat. Would ahve saved a lot of our time if you had posted that to begin with.

BTW any of these problems will ahve to be troubleshot right, randomly changing parts is a good way to put in a lot of effort and spend a lot of $ and time wihtout getting anywhere.

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Buddha.

Quote from: The Buddha on November 09, 2009, 02:23:30 PM

Oh yea you have goats. New wiring harness wont do squat. Would ahve saved a lot of our time if you had posted that to begin with.

BTW any of these problems will ahve to be troubleshot right, randomly changing parts is a good way to put in a lot of effort and spend a lot of $ and time wihtout getting anywhere.

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Buddha.

Definitely didn't want to waste anyones time.  What do you mean i have goats?  Do you have an electrical troubleshooting guide for those types of issues?   Once I get into the bike more this winter i can post with a better description.  The wiring harness is kind of rusting away as it is, so its definitely not going to hurt to have a spare around.

Try looking up "GOATS syndrome" on the forum. its a failure of the epoxy/magnets for the stator. Never had it, just seen it here on the forum.

Quote from: lopee on November 10, 2009, 06:31:05 AM
Try looking up "GOATS syndrome" on the forum. its a failure of the epoxy/magnets for the stator. Never had it, just seen it here on the forum.

much appreciated.  I will take a look and see what I find.  a better understanding of the issue will definitely not hurt here.  I should also do some troubleshooting.  Thanks for the info.

Quote from: gamorg02 on November 09, 2009, 10:11:32 PM

Quote from: The Buddha on November 09, 2009, 02:23:30 PM

Oh yea you have goats. New wiring harness wont do squat. Would ahve saved a lot of our time if you had posted that to begin with.

BTW any of these problems will ahve to be troubleshot right, randomly changing parts is a good way to put in a lot of effort and spend a lot of $ and time wihtout getting anywhere.

Cool.
Buddha.

Definitely didn't want to waste anyones time.  What do you mean i have goats?  Do you have an electrical troubleshooting guide for those types of issues?   Once I get into the bike more this winter i can post with a better description.  The wiring harness is kind of rusting away as it is, so its definitely not going to hurt to have a spare around.

Oh yea that is a huge problem ... wiring harness rusting.
I'll fix it for you, send me the harness and say 25 bucks, and I'll fix it by replacing all the rust in the wiring, by replacing it with a material that wont rust. Say, copper. That is a permanent solution. You dont want to buy another harness only to have it rust too.

BTW your bike used to run well before. Then it started doing the whole try to start as you take your thum off the starter ?
Well yea that can be goats.
If you let it sit a long time, or you have a bike that you never had running before and its doing this ... it can be the carb.
~3 weeks ago I was attempting to start that XS650 of mine that had sat for years and years without any plugs in it and had seized the cyls. I PD blastered my way out of that and got it all re fitted, and was attempting to start, and it would every 2-3 mins of cranking fire a couple times and that was it.
It had a brass tube in the float bowl wall that @ the bottom had a jet in it that was clogged. Weird. I clean that and it ran first try. You can have a similar problem if you had it sit for a long time.
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Buddha.

Quote from: The Buddha on November 09, 2009, 10:55:42 AM
89 Through 00.
In fact 90-00 cant be even told apart. The 89 of course was the best, the fuse box in that was just behind the battery, the rest have it under the right panel.
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Buddha.

Fuse box? my 97 only has one fuse that i am aware of.    and that by the solenoid. where is the box at? and what are the other fuses for?

Yup, fuse box with 1 fuse.
On an 89 that thing is just behind the battery. Other years under the right side cover.
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Quote from: The Buddha on November 10, 2009, 07:55:05 AM

Quote from: gamorg02 on November 09, 2009, 10:11:32 PM

Quote from: The Buddha on November 09, 2009, 02:23:30 PM

Oh yea you have goats. New wiring harness wont do squat. Would ahve saved a lot of our time if you had posted that to begin with.

BTW any of these problems will ahve to be troubleshot right, randomly changing parts is a good way to put in a lot of effort and spend a lot of $ and time wihtout getting anywhere.

Cool.
Buddha.

Definitely didn't want to waste anyones time.  What do you mean i have goats?  Do you have an electrical troubleshooting guide for those types of issues?   Once I get into the bike more this winter i can post with a better description.  The wiring harness is kind of rusting away as it is, so its definitely not going to hurt to have a spare around.

Oh yea that is a huge problem ... wiring harness rusting.
I'll fix it for you, send me the harness and say 25 bucks, and I'll fix it by replacing all the rust in the wiring, by replacing it with a material that wont rust. Say, copper. That is a permanent solution. You dont want to buy another harness only to have it rust too.

BTW your bike used to run well before. Then it started doing the whole try to start as you take your thum off the starter ?
Well yea that can be goats.
If you let it sit a long time, or you have a bike that you never had running before and its doing this ... it can be the carb.
~3 weeks ago I was attempting to start that XS650 of mine that had sat for years and years without any plugs in it and had seized the cyls. I PD blastered my way out of that and got it all re fitted, and was attempting to start, and it would every 2-3 mins of cranking fire a couple times and that was it.
It had a brass tube in the float bowl wall that @ the bottom had a jet in it that was clogged. Weird. I clean that and it ran first try. You can have a similar problem if you had it sit for a long time.
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Buddha.

I wouldn't call it 'well' but it ran, yea.  Carbs are fine i rebuilt them and it was running with them.  you sent me the needle valves, which i used (thanks again) which weren't necessary, the internal petcock wasn't set completely on.  anyways.  the cylinders should be good too, it turns over fine.

i may take u up on the wiring harness we'll see.  i need to get a concrete idea of what its doing and not doing then figure out which way to go.

Sarcasm isn't one of my strong skills ... so here it is without ... wiring harness cannot rust, its made of copper.

OK running and you didn't park it for very long and whatever and it now wont start.

OK we're geting somewhere ... OK back to goats as a possiblity.

OK you change spark plugs recently. Ginovega's bike stumped me for a whole week till he told me it ran and he swapped pipe and plugs and I said OK lets try old plugs I had ... booya, running @ first try. That was 5-6 years ago.

Yea yea buying float needles from me ... now its my fault ... probably. 

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Buddha.

Quote from: The Buddha on November 10, 2009, 12:02:36 PM
Sarcasm isn't one of my strong skills ... so here it is without ... wiring harness cannot rust, its made of copper.

OK running and you didn't park it for very long and whatever and it now wont start.

OK we're geting somewhere ... OK back to goats as a possiblity.

OK you change spark plugs recently. Ginovega's bike stumped me for a whole week till he told me it ran and he swapped pipe and plugs and I said OK lets try old plugs I had ... booya, running @ first try. That was 5-6 years ago.

Yea yea buying float needles from me ... now its my fault ... probably. 

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Buddha.

True, but it doesn't keep it from falling apart.  I still think i may salvage some parts off of it.

Right it wasn't parked very long, couple months.  but when you're not getting spark thats issue #1 to try!  I left it for a bit because it wasn't getting gas and ic ouldn't figure out it was the petcock on the tank itself plus i was in the middle of re-jetting my main bike (vmax) so that took precidence.

Def sounds like it could be goats, let me see if i can take a look @ the stator this weekend.  I can just take off that one cap right? not the whole side cover?

it def ran with the new plugs before, the old ones looked original.  not bad, just old.

haha didn't end up using your needle valves!  figured out the petcock before i ripped the carbs apart again.