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Goodridge ss brake line length question

Started by black and silver twin, December 12, 2009, 08:21:44 PM

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black and silver twin

So I ordered ss brake lines for my 07 gsf 2 weeks ago. the company is goodridge and they are in Britain, i ordered from them because the price was good at $76 for front and rear shipped here to USA and was told i wouldn't have to assemble the lines at all.

well they came in today and yes they look very well made and have a transparent red coating like i ordered. plus the ends look to be correct.

Anyway my question is: what is the length of the stock lines, both front and rear?
Both of the lines sent to me are 29" long but the lines have different fitting angles corresponding to there placement front or rear, so I know I wasn't accidentally sent 2 of the same.
I have clipons that are (at least) 4" lower than stock bars so shorter will work in front but 29" in the rear sounds long.

any info will be greatly appreciated.
07 black GS500F; fenderectomy, NGK DPR9EIX-9 plugs, 15T sprocket, Jardine exhaust, K&N lunchbox, 20-62.5-152.5 jets 1 washer, timing advance 6*, flushmount signals,Tommaselli clipons over tree, sv650 throttle, 20w forkoil, sport demon tires, Buddha fork brace, Goodridge SS lines, double bubble

black and silver twin

well nobody was able to get me measurements, so i just decided to dive in. after removing the stock lines I discovered the front line was 29" (same as goodridge line), the rear line was 29.25" (0.25" longer than goodridge line). well both lines fit perfectly and function beautifuly, if i squeeze the lever as hard as i physically can, it barely moves more than halfway (1" or so from bar). with the stock lines i was able to get the lever 3/8" from the bars. the rear is a little better but i never realy hit the rears hard before because it would lock up easily. oddly though if I press real hard, stand actually, on the rear brake i can max it out. meaning bottoming the master cylinder. this makes me think air bubble but i bled the crud (literally and figuratively) out of the thing with no bubbles. but the force required to do this is at least 150pounds so im not worried about it. the only problem i ran into was the banjo bolts provided, only one was the right thread. i was sent 4 coarse thread bolts but only the front caliper was coarse thread, the rest were fine thread. but i decided to just reuse all the stock banjo bolts even on the one that was the right thread, because the stock bolts had larger openings meaning higher fluid flow.
07 black GS500F; fenderectomy, NGK DPR9EIX-9 plugs, 15T sprocket, Jardine exhaust, K&N lunchbox, 20-62.5-152.5 jets 1 washer, timing advance 6*, flushmount signals,Tommaselli clipons over tree, sv650 throttle, 20w forkoil, sport demon tires, Buddha fork brace, Goodridge SS lines, double bubble

PachmanP

Sweet.  Do you have a link from whence you ordered?  SS lines are on my winter project list...
'04 F to an E to a wreck to a Wee Strom?
HEL stainless brake lines
15W fork oil
Kat 600 Rear shock
K&N drop in and Buddha jets
It wants me to go brokedie.

BaltimoreGS

Quote from: black and silver twin on December 13, 2009, 10:38:04 PM
the only problem i ran into was the banjo bolts provided, only one was the right thread. i was sent 4 coarse thread bolts but only the front caliper was coarse thread, the rest were fine thread. but i decided to just reuse all the stock banjo bolts even on the one that was the right thread, because the stock bolts had larger openings meaning higher fluid flow.

I ran into the same problem with the bolts provided with the Galfer lines.

-Jessie

black and silver twin

Quote from: PachmanP on December 14, 2009, 09:22:58 PM
Sweet.  Do you have a link from whence you ordered?  SS lines are on my winter project list...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Goodridge-Braided-Hoses-Kit-SUZUKI-GS500-2004_W0QQitemZ270460535846QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item3ef8b44426

above are the ones I got but I actually just found these below that are exactly the same but with ss fittings, which I now wish i would have gotten. but honestly they are very well made and the ss fittings arent that big of a deal (trying to console myself)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Goodridge-Stainless-Hoses-Kit-SUZUKI-GS500-2004_W0QQitemZ270461141201QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item3ef8bd80d1

Quote from: BaltimoreGS on December 15, 2009, 07:13:21 AM
Quote from: black and silver twin on December 13, 2009, 10:38:04 PM
the only problem i ran into was the banjo bolts provided, only one was the right thread. i was sent 4 coarse thread bolts but only the front caliper was coarse thread, the rest were fine thread. but i decided to just reuse all the stock banjo bolts even on the one that was the right thread, because the stock bolts had larger openings meaning higher fluid flow.

I ran into the same problem with the bolts provided with the Galfer lines.

-Jessie

the stock bolts have longer threads and larger fluid openings so there better anyway  :thumb:
07 black GS500F; fenderectomy, NGK DPR9EIX-9 plugs, 15T sprocket, Jardine exhaust, K&N lunchbox, 20-62.5-152.5 jets 1 washer, timing advance 6*, flushmount signals,Tommaselli clipons over tree, sv650 throttle, 20w forkoil, sport demon tires, Buddha fork brace, Goodridge SS lines, double bubble

sledge


tt_four

Did you ever get your brakes sorted out? Air bubbles are always the first guess, but when you have air it's usually easier to pull the lever straight in to the bar with no resistance, as opposed to harder. If they're good lines, they won't expand as easy as the stock lines, so you shouldn't be able to pull the lever as close to the bar as you could before, but I don't know about a full 5/8ths. It's been a long time since I swapped a brake line to remember how much of a difference it made.

Is your front line still the same length as it was with the stock bars? I switched to clipons as well, so my brake line kinda snakes it's way down to the caliper. I'd replace it so it just runs straight down but I don't know if I'll ever go back to the stock bars, and don't want to have to replace the cable again, as I hate bleeding brakes.

black and silver twin

Quote from: tt_four on December 16, 2009, 07:19:21 AM
Did you ever get your brakes sorted out? Air bubbles are always the first guess, but when you have air it's usually easier to pull the lever straight in to the bar with no resistance, as opposed to harder. If they're good lines, they won't expand as easy as the stock lines, so you shouldn't be able to pull the lever as close to the bar as you could before, but I don't know about a full 5/8ths. It's been a long time since I swapped a brake line to remember how much of a difference it made.

Is your front line still the same length as it was with the stock bars? I switched to clipons as well, so my brake line kinda snakes it's way down to the caliper. I'd replace it so it just runs straight down but I don't know if I'll ever go back to the stock bars, and don't want to have to replace the cable again, as I hate bleeding brakes.

the front has no air bubbles and is hard as a 2x4 after 3/4" movement, much better than stock. the rear on the other hand is the one I believe has a bubble, as I can with great force (over 150#) push the pedal to max out the master cylinders movement. the rear is still just as touchy as stock, so I think I will leave the bubble to soften the rear brake like the racers do. plus im lazy and dont want to chase a dang bubble for hours on an already over sensitive brake.

Yes the goodridge front line was same length as stock, but it actually fit better because its more free to move around and find a good loose spot. the stock front line is rigidly held in place so when I put the clipons on the extra slack had no-where to go except into a loop. I did however remove the rubber grommets from the stock lines and put them on the goodridge lines so it will be held in place from moving back and forth.
07 black GS500F; fenderectomy, NGK DPR9EIX-9 plugs, 15T sprocket, Jardine exhaust, K&N lunchbox, 20-62.5-152.5 jets 1 washer, timing advance 6*, flushmount signals,Tommaselli clipons over tree, sv650 throttle, 20w forkoil, sport demon tires, Buddha fork brace, Goodridge SS lines, double bubble

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