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Cracked Camshaft bearing cap???

Started by Missile, April 17, 2010, 02:32:07 PM

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gregvhen

Great thanks goes out to Lilwoody, i got some caps from him in the mail yesterday, put em on to replace my two broken ones and they worked great, no gaps, no low oil pressure, just smooth riding and no more worries about dying. unless i get hit by a women driver anyway. again, thank you lilwoody

lilwoody

Your welcome, ride safe and have fun.
It is far better to attempt mighty things than take rank with those poor souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
Teddy Roosvelt

acid

Hopefully you won't kill your engine by doing this.

As the first poster in this thread correctly wrote, each cap is unique. You can't exchange them without honing or similiar. Some may work better than others (pure luck), but on the long run you will most likely kill your camshaft. Ever wondered why they have no part number?

sledge

Agree with the above  :thumb:

Have you measured the clearances and concentricity and are they within makers spec`. Or are you assuming that because it "fits" its ok?

gregvhen

Quote from: acid on May 10, 2010, 11:26:28 AM
Hopefully you won't kill your engine by doing this.

As the first poster in this thread correctly wrote, each cap is unique. You can't exchange them without honing or similiar. Some may work better than others (pure luck), but on the long run you will most likely kill your camshaft. Ever wondered why they have no part number?

yea i know this, i did have to get honed a little bit by my schools machining teacher, but it wasnt off by much, so they fit now

sledge


lilwoody

His engine was dead already. If he cooks the cam so what? He will only be back to where he was in the first place, needing a whole head assembly for a part that should be much more robust and cost 30 bucks max. If it were me I'd do exactly the same thing, then if it failed I'd replace the whole motor. These bikes have motors readily available over the internet with very low miles for less than the cost and aggravation of purchasing and installing a head. For that matter for any internal failure, I'll replace the motor over splitting the case or pulling the head. I've already done it once and wouldn't hesitate to do it again.
It is far better to attempt mighty things than take rank with those poor souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
Teddy Roosvelt

gregvhen

Quote from: sledge on May 10, 2010, 04:06:39 PM
How much off was it?

dont know, he didnt say, just told me he only had to take a very small amount, relatively speaking of course.  i didnt ask, and i trust him since not only is he the machining teacher, he is friends with my parents cause his son plays sports with my little brother, and i help coach. so i know he would do what he can to make it right and keep me safe.  and like lilwoody said, if it still doesnt work after some miles, its worth a try cause the worst that could happen is the engine lock up and id have to buy a new top end anyway. which would be unlikely.  say the cam freezes, the cam chain isnt gonna stop the engine alltogether (which still wouldnt be too deadly), the chain is just gonna jump teeth unitl the motor stops turning.  the piston will compress, and the exhaust wont open so all the air will just release when the intake opens again.  I would hear this, as well as feel the cam chain jumping, and pull in the clutch and coast to the side of the road.  say the scenario goes another way, and the cam chain breaks (unlikely this would happen before jumping teeth) andthe chain then flys around inside and gets lodged down by the crank and freezes the crank, id feel this as well and pull in the clutch before the crank actually freezes. remeber were talkin no less than 1200 rpms, if by chance it happens at idle, so even as low as 1200 rpms, the crank and chain will come to a grinding hault rather than an instant freeze.  Now, say that doesnt happen either, say something goes wrong and worst case, the engine just immediatly freeses with no warnings in time to pull in clutch. so what, the back wheel skids and i pull in the clutch.  this is only possibly deadly if it happens around a sharp turn and i fly into an on coming car. cause if its not a sharp turn ill just turn the bars and drift to a stop, and if is sharp then i wont be moving fast enough to kill me if i slide into a brick wall, or gaurd rail, or tree or whatever. only an oncoming car could kill me.

It is my beleif that there is a higher chance of me getting hit by a woman driver who got scared of a squirel in her lane and crossed over 3 lanes to nail me head on while Elton John veiws the scene from a purple building alongside the road.  Oh, and if anyone feels like this story is directed angerly at you, its not. i just went over in my head a hundred times and finally decided i had nothing better to do than type it out.

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