Cheaper than what I paid for the GS:







Could have fixed it up. 
Still woulda been stuck with a fat, slow pig of a bike. 

Maybe it'll make somebody else happy. 

How much did he want for it? I think most of that will buff out. 

Obviously he got the wrong knobs, didn't he? Otherwise the bike would have been Protected. Of course, he might have been using them as "highway pegs" too.

Michael

Why did you turn it down?  They were paying you to haul it away, right?

good call. looks like the rear of the engine case is broken in one of the pictures. i'm guessing that's where the swingarm pivot is ?

would be a ton of work to get it road worthy again.

The swingarm pivot crack happens sometimes.  Usually with wheelie junkies.
It's weldable, from both sides if you split the case.  

The subframe can be rebent, and the broken plastic there is cheap.  $26, for a carbon fiber piece on ebay.  About the same for the headlight.
I've got a Veypor, so gauges aren't a problem.  
The side plates for the pegs are pricey, $64 for stock ones.  No reason you couldn't fab some from billet.  

Besides worrying about the forks, though, there's the headshake problem.  I hear it's bad on these, from the rear suspension being twitchy.  I've never had one, so I don't know.  
I do know I'd be worried about it, since it's obviously taken damage at both ends.  


Selling my GS would pay for it.
I'd have to sell it on craigslist, since you f*ckers only wanna pay peanuts. 

Looks like a dry clutch, so 900cc? You can tweak those engines pretty hard, HC heads, oversize valves, flash the ecu and you have a nasty little wheely machine.

Yeah, I'm tired of squeezing every little bit of power out of things.

I'll just keep saving for track days, tires, and maybe a Street Triple R.

haha, of course no one here wants to pay, we already have GSs, we'd only need another if it's a great deal.

Engine cases could be welded, but if a bike was crashed as hard as that one, you're never going to get the kinks worked out. It could be a good project, but only if it was no more than $900.

Don't bet on that TT.  The tubular frames are very resilient and I know several people riding on welded cases without a problem.  BUT, as Mr. Simpson pointed out, the 2 valve Duc's can be a bit anemic in stock form and parts are absurdly expensive.

I wouldn't be too worried about the frame, and having an engine case welded by itself wouldn't worry me too much, but when you've got that much damage all on one bike, basically spread out over the entire thing, you're taking your chances as that was clearly more than a little spill.

spc: are all of the older monsters 2 valve per cylinder? Do you know what the deal is with that horrific valve adjustment I always hear about? That's the only thing that really makes me say I'd still turn one down if it was a good deal. I like working on my own bikes, but that sounds like more of a hassle than I'd even want to deal with. Are the monsters easier to adjust than the superbikes?

Most of the monsters you see are 2 valve, especially at reasonable prices (I've seen S2R's going cheap lately though).  It's just the one's with a race engine that aren't (S2R and the like).  I've never done an adjustment on a 4 valve Duc, but the doing a valve job and belts on a 2 valve isn't bad at all.  Maybe a 3 hour job for a home mechanic.  There are a few videos available on youtube that break it down pretty well.  I don't think the 4 valves are inherently more difficult, there are just twice as many valves and things are slightly more cramped.

the 620's and 695's are a bit anemic, but still faster than a GS.  Find a 750 or 900 and as long as you don't want to race GSXR's you'll be happy.  If you want to fuch with guys on rice rockets, get an S4RS with Termi's. 

If you're just looking for the name and V twin hum of a desmo, get a 6xx, I see them around 3k all the time.

TBH, I nearly gave in.
Daydreams of beating away hoards of snooty girls with expensive glasses and narrow hips, really.

But they don't do anal. 
And TT's right, too much crap to worry about.  hehe, pun.
And, high maintenance. 

If that's all you're after you could do a tail swap and put Ducati stickers on your tank and you'd be fine. They don't know the difference.

Other than that, I'm not sure how much I've really heard about the valve adjustment being the bad part, it might just be the price of the valve adjustment that made me assume it was that bad. I'd take a 750 or 900 if I can across a great deal on one, and I'd prefer one already slightly beat up so I had no problems with beating on it a little further. A ducati in great condition would be the least fun I could ever have with a bike since I'd know it's really made to just sit in someone's garage. The 600s, well it's just a shame that they couldn't even keep up with an sv650. I don't really have much interest in keeping up with gsxrs, my GS rarely gets over 5k rpm, I would much rather just get a larger twin that actually has some torque for the lower 1/3rd of it's rev range. I already know what I want, I'm just saying if someone threw a monster at me in the mean time, I'd consider it.

Quote from: Homer on May 23, 2010, 11:29:11 PM
TBH, I nearly gave in.
Daydreams of beating away hoards of snooty girls with expensive glasses and narrow hips, really.

But they don't do anal. 
And TT's right, too much crap to worry about.  hehe, pun.
And, high maintenance. 

Generally true, but don't be too sure of that!

Actually, now that I think about it, you don't even need to get a ducati. When I had my Triumph people used to ask me if it was a ducati all the time, people on Buells get the same thing. People see a naked sportbike and assume it's a ducati no matter what the tank actually says.

Quote from: ohgood on May 22, 2010, 01:49:32 PM
good call. looks like the rear of the engine case is broken in one of the pictures. i'm guessing that's where the swingarm pivot is ?

would be a ton of work to get it road worthy again.

No one believes me when I say this crap happens on many non frame honda's, 954, 929 and vfr 8's. But yea its a freaking crime, how did it ever pass DOT ... total trash.
Cool.
Buddha.

that kinda stuff always has worried me. I'm sure it's great for weight and all that, but the idea of bolting a swingarm to a frame instead of an engine is just much more comforting to me.

Y'know, they say (Don't ask me who the fuch 'they' are) that there's nothing quite like the rumble of a Duc.














I say there's nothing quite like leaving a brand spanking new 458 Italia in the dust in your friends highly modified 996TT putting over 600 on the wheels.


Now if only a real German company would build a bike instead of those a$$hats at Buttmunching Morons on Wheels

Quote from: spc on May 25, 2010, 08:52:30 PM
Y'know, they say (Don't ask me who the fuch 'they' are) that there's nothing quite like the rumble of a Duc.


Now if only a real German company would build a bike instead of those a$$hats at Buttmunching Morons on Wheels

I kinda think it sounds like something is breaking every time one rides past me. I guess it's an acquired taste. I may get there eventually though, as the sound of an inline 4 is started to wear old on me, so I'll eventually have to pick a new sound to like.

A 1000cc putting out more power than a hayabusa isn't good enough for you?? If I was going for something european it would probably be another triumph. Otherwise I'd probably find a cheap monster to ride, you know, for the "character". I don't go fast anymore anyway, haha.