Hey,

Im in the market for a new helmet and am considering a 3/4 with the full shield. Its what i currently wear but its an old beat up HJC "Harley Edition" one. im interested in the Aria SZ/Ram III, Shoei J-Wing or maybe the HJC AC-3 Carbon. Does anyone have these? While i want a 3/4 i still want something not too loud and with decent wind protection with the shield down. I know its not as good as a full face but im willing to make the trade off.

Tom

I wonder why so many deliberately choose less protection when buying a helmet.  I wouldn't consider going back to a helmet that doesn't protect your jaw.  Ever see a guy go over the bars and get his face smashed in?  Teeth all over the ground?  It ain't pretty.

Quote from: bill14224 on August 03, 2010, 03:06:17 PM
I wonder why so many deliberately choose less protection when buying a helmet.  I wouldn't consider going back to a helmet that doesn't protect your jaw.  Ever see a guy go over the bars and get his face smashed in?  Teeth all over the ground?  It ain't pretty.

It's a personal choice, nothing wrong with being a Gear Nazi like yourself. Me...I wear 1/2 helmets almost exclusively, statistically the majority of motorcycle accidents are rider induced, so you do control your own destiny....personally I haven't crashed in 33 years. So don't crash, watch out for the other guy and don't worry about what other people wear. 

Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on August 03, 2010, 03:28:30 PM

It's a personal choice, nothing wrong with being a Gear Nazi like yourself. Me...I wear 1/2 helmets almost exclusively, statistically the majority of motorcycle accidents are rider induced, so you do control your own destiny....personally I haven't crashed in 33 years. So don't crash, watch out for the other guy and don't worry about what other people wear. 

This'd be the most sensible post I just about ever read on here.

I understand that im getting less protection. As motorcyclists we all accept a lot more risk then the average person on the road. Wearing a 3/4 increases that slightly over full but its something im ok with.

Now does anyone have a review and not an opinion  ?

I have a Rjays open face, but as they're only available in Australia it's a bit pointless in doing a review. One thing with an open face is that you have better visibility.

Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on August 03, 2010, 03:28:30 PMIt's a personal choice, nothing wrong with being a Gear Nazi like yourself. Me...I wear 1/2 helmets almost exclusively, statistically the majority of motorcycle accidents are rider induced, so you do control your own destiny....personally I haven't crashed in 33 years. So don't crash, watch out for the other guy and don't worry about what other people wear. 

Statically, most accidents happen to people who don't think that they are going to be involved in an accident.

For what it's worth, I'd take a flip face helmet over a 3/4th helmet anyday. Although it's not nearly as good as a full face, it's significantly better than a 2/3rds, with most of the convenience.

I have a 3/4 one that I got from PepBoys. Think it may be an AGV TBH I really didn't like it at all. Even though it was a small the shell was the same size as the Large helmets and I felt like a bobble head. I got neck fatigue after about an hour riding on the back of my BF cruiser. I used it on my GS500F once and the windshield seemed to push the air right into my face so it was quite uncomfortable to me. Not to mention when I hit a side wind just right it really did crank my head far to the right. Needless to say this helmet sits in the garage gathering lots of dust.

I trust my head to my shoei RF-1000, is lighter and affords much more protection. Now if I don't ride with the FF I feel naked. I went to Disney with some friend's yesterday and since it was six miles away I rode with no gear on. It was the first time in three years I felt a little scared riding. It had rained about an hour before hand so water was being thrown up into my sunglasses. For me I felt very naked and vulnerable.

After seeing my friend's helmet after plowing into an SUV at 40mph the brunt of the impact hit his chinbar to the point of it almost smashing off. If he had been wearing 3/4 he would not have been here today. He is still hurt bad but still with us.

I know we all have personal reasons for wearing what we wear but just be careful out there. All it takes is one accident for it to be all over. But, we are adults here and it is each of our own decisionns so I'm not gonna judge anybody on what they wear just, offer some personal experience and advice.

Mary

Me personally? Humm I have never ridden a Dirt bike/Street bike without full face helmet protection ergo (Full Face). As far as personal choice..I agree..it is yours and yours alone. No helmet will ever keep you from killing yourself. The rider determines the outcome of an "Accident". That being said I have seen, heard of lot's of experienced riders die, and total idiots live with and without helmets. Myself I choose the odds of over 80% of motorcycle head injuries are survivable had they been wearing a proper full face helmet!

40% of damage in a crash is done to the chin/nose area. I opt for full face.

Quote from: grahamlocklin on August 04, 2010, 07:59:01 AM
40% of damage in a crash is done to the chin/nose area. I opt for full face.

Stats please.

Quote from: Twism86 on August 04, 2010, 08:08:09 AM

Quote from: grahamlocklin on August 04, 2010, 07:59:01 AM
40% of damage in a crash is done to the chin/nose area. I opt for full face.

Stats please.

I saw a picture not too long ago that was a helmet and the sections were broken down into pieces that listed how much of the damage usually happens to that part of the helmet. I'd never have a clue how to find it though.

Mary: I've been trying to find a local AGV dealer since they don't list any on their website, I never figured pepboys would be my answer, haha. That makes me want an AGV a little bit less.

It depends what kind of riding you do. The only helmets I currently own are full face helmets but I do have an HJC flip up that I like to wear around town. Sometimes when I'm on a back street of a neighborhood I'll flip it up. I decided that for around town riding I'm just going to try to find a full face dirtbike helmet. I'll still have the chinbar, but I'll have better visibility, a lighter helmet, and won't have to deal with flipping my visor up and down every time I hit 30mph where my visor starts to make this awful whistling noise, not to mention the visor on my Arai leaves the edge of the visor right in my line of sight when I leave it up since it obviously wasn't meant to be ridden that way.

To answer your original question, I feel like most people here seem to wear full face helmets. Even though that's fine that you want a 3/4 helmet, I doubt you'll find much information about them here. Not because people don't want to share it, but just because I don't think there's much information about them on this forum.

Thanks TT! Im still decided which style i want, unfortunately there are no Arai dealers around me as thats really all i want. Maybe Shoei and HJC is low quality.

Is that image connected with some sort of research? Such as coming from an accredited researcher/ research institution. Is there a legitimate source of statistics collected as well as a large enough sample that covers a wide range of rider demographics?

Im not a d!ck or anything, but im a skeptic when it comes to completely believing these sorts of thing unless they come from a legitimate and peer reviewed research source.

Quote from: Twism86 on August 04, 2010, 12:03:56 PM
Is that image connected with some sort of research? Such as coming from an accredited researcher/ research institution. Is there a legitimate source of statistics collected as well as a large enough sample that covers a wide range of rider demographics?

Im not a d!ck or anything, but im a skeptic when it comes to completely believing these sorts of thing unless they come from a legitimate and peer reviewed research source.

The image itself is found in Proficient Motorcycling by Hough.  The research, I believe, is from the Hurt Report.  It's outdated (1980s?) but the dynamics of accidents haven't changed significantly.

Quote from: Twism86 on August 04, 2010, 12:03:56 PM
Is that image connected with some sort of research? Such as coming from an accredited researcher/ research institution. Is there a legitimate source of statistics collected as well as a large enough sample that covers a wide range of rider demographics?

Im not a d!ck or anything, but im a skeptic when it comes to completely believing these sorts of thing unless they come from a legitimate and peer reviewed research source.

Not sure.  I just did the google search since someone asked about the picture.

I know from personal experiences that when I've been in an accident I have hit the back of my head twice.  And another member had hit his jaw region of his helmet when he went down.  He's fortunate for wearing the full face, but I'm not going to debate about helmets.....not in the mood.

At least you don't have to start a separate thread asking peoples opinions of open face helmets.

Quote from: bubba zanetti on August 04, 2010, 03:26:21 PM
At least you don't have to start a separate thread asking peoples opinions of open face helmets.

LOL very true sir!

Quote from: Twism86 on August 04, 2010, 09:50:09 AM
unfortunately there are no Arai dealers around me as thats really all i want. Maybe Shoei and HJC is low quality.

To be honest I'm not sure it matters much with 3/4 helmets. I'm sure the finish is nicer, but once you hit DOT and snell safety standards all you're paying for is ventilation, weight, fancy visors, softer padding inside. Most of that you don't really have to deal with. Shoei and HJC both make very nice helmets too, I think Arai is just known for nicer helmets because they don't make as many cheap helmets as HJC does, although it's just as easy to spend $600 on an HJC if you wanted.