I agree for the most part as well. Ride a bicycle around city traffic for 2 years and you'll eventually learn that "loud pipes save lives" is really just a way of saying "I'm too lazy to pay attention and would much rather just scream everywhere I go. I could ride on a perfectly silent motorcycle and still probably feel safer than your average guy on a Harley with straight pipes who expects people to hear him. There's not one car I pass on the road that I expect to give me the right of way and there's not one single intersection or cross street that I pass without expecting someone to pull out in front of me. It's definitely a learned skill because I can be in a car with other people and point to a car 15 feet up and say "watch out for this guy, he's about to do something stupid", and every time they do.

As much as I'd like to say it I came withing centimeters twice today of implementing my gear and neither one could I really have anticipated.

The first instance I was the third vehicle going through my green light when an SUV decides to bang a U turn on a red. All of a sudden he nails the gas and swings around I hit the brakes hard and I fishtailed it scared me quite a bit. The driver was completely oblivious to me being there. Is that legal anywhere?

The second instance I was sitting at the red light kinda had my guard down because I was 95% sure there was a car behind me but I guess it turned off all of  a sudden I see nothing but car in my left peripheral vision(I was in the right track) a lincoln town car decided to use my part of the lane to again initiate a U-turn she was so close I almost dropped the bike because it startled me. I still don't know why she had to come into my lane to do that maneuver but man did it scare me.

I guess what I'm trying to say no matter how good you are you can't anticipate everything the other driver is going to do. If we could there would be no Motor vehicle collisions. It is also our choice as to how much if any gear to wear. In the end we have to pay those consequences with our bodies and ultimately our life.

Mary

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Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on August 16, 2010, 04:08:22 PM

I can only speak from personal experience, but in my 42 years of riding M/C's 100% of my accidents where cause by myself to myself. I do all I can to control my own destiny and so far I have been the master of it. Yes any assclown can turn left in front of me and take me out, but so far watching out for the other guy has worked for me. Ride your own ride   

Stevo has nailed it, there is only one person responsible for your safety when you ride and that's yourself.

Really? So I was responsible when I was riding on a straight level road through a green light when the woman pulled out too soon and clipped me? That's funny, that's not how the witnesses saw it, or the police. I take all available precautions and am very aware of my surroundings and other drivers but I can't anticipate every action of others.

Apparently you guys are clairvoyant and know the thoughts of all drivers around you. I wish I had that power. Instead, I wear  proper gear so I will be less affected if someone else screws up. I also don't claim to be perfect and be such a great motorcyclist that I will never have a lapse and have an accident of my own fault. I am awed to be in the presence of such greatness.

Dude...sorry you got taken out, it may happen to me in the morning going to work? All I am saying is 25 bikes and 42 years later I have done more harm to myself on a bike than anybody has done to me. So when I say "Don't Crash" that mindset has actually worked for me....regardless of what ever the f%$k helmet I chose to wear or not wear 

Quote from: thecdn on August 16, 2010, 07:46:46 PM



Apparently you guys are clairvoyant and know the thoughts of all drivers around you. I wish I had that power. Instead, I wear  proper gear so I will be less affected if someone else screws up. I also don't claim to be perfect and be such a great motorcyclist that I will never have a lapse and have an accident of my own fault. I am awed to be in the presence of such greatness.

Maybe if you stay out of trouble and are kind to your mother you may one day obtain greatness. Until that day you have may stay awestruck of us that have achieved greatness and walk in our shadow.

Quote from: thecdn on August 16, 2010, 07:46:46 PM

Apparently you guys are clairvoyant and know the thoughts of all drivers around you. I wish I had that power. ... I am awed to be in the presence of such greatness.

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Quote from: Anaconda on August 16, 2010, 12:44:09 PM
so yes twims86, lol there are no reviews from us about any 1/2 helmets as none of us promote using it, as we've shared many of the experiences that can happen to people and what a major benefits the full face helmets do. If you really persist on it, go to a motorcycle shop and see which one is most comfortable to your head and is approved by DOT/Snell (i doubt snell does 1/2 helmets but maybe they do, I have no idea), that's all I can recommend. 

I thought the title said 3/4 reviews not 1/2. I could give a 1/2 helmet review and I would promote using one, at least your wearing one. I've had close calls from wearing a full helmet. Its harder to hear or give warnings when riding with others. Its as bad as a cager telling you motorcycles are dangerous and you should ride in a cage.

I can hear just fine in my Shoei-RF 1000. Actually when riding it is better because I don't get the buffeting sound that I got from my 3/4 helmet.

Vision is just as good in a Full Face as well.

Sorry don't buy those myths! Full-Face is proven to be the safer helmet.

Mary

The hearing in a full helmet doesn't much matter if your wearing earplugs. I can still hear if someone is yelling beside me though.    When riding with others, we have hand and feet signals worked out. No need to hear.

I never claimed a full face wasn't safer. I have had problems with full face helmets and prefer a half. I also have the option of not wearing a helmet at all in my state. A 1/2 or 3/4 helmet is much safer than the full helmet I won't wear.

From what I understand from some of your posts, riding a motorcycle is dangerous.

Yeah, if you actually ride it.

QuoteI never claimed a full face wasn't safer. I have had problems with full face helmets and prefer a half. I also have the option of not wearing a helmet at all in my state. A 1/2 or 3/4 helmet is much safer than the full helmet I won't wear.

If it is a half helmet only 38.6% is not really much safer IMHO! If you add up the % in the Hurt report diagram.

Like I said it is your head but make sure you have health insurance because I don't want my taxpayer dollars paying for your choice.

Mary

QuoteVision is just as good in a Full Face as well.

Wrong, depends on helmet,visor,size and field of view.

Quotemake sure you have health insurance because I don't want my taxpayer dollars paying for your choice.

Hope you wearing neckbrace and gumshield then. Spinal and dental treatment is sooo expensive to us taxpayers too.

Quote from: bubba zanetti on August 18, 2010, 11:32:42 PM
From what I understand from some of your posts, riding a motorcycle is dangerous.

Quote from: Homer on August 19, 2010, 12:36:56 AM
Yeah, if you actually ride it.

So to be truly safe I have to stop riding, interesting concept. Think I'll keep living life on the razors edge.

True Purple but I actually carry full coverage insurance! So, no it is not the Taxpayers who pay for my injuries. I do wear a visor as well and the chin bar protects my teeth.

Mary

To get back on topic...I wear a 3/4 every now and then.  It's a character thing...it's gotten to where I cannot ride without my glasses.  When I could ride sans the specs I loved to don the 1945 flak jacket and combat pants and top it off with the 3/4 and old-school goggles.  It all went together, though.

People riding around on GS500F's...or any relatively sporty bike, really...look like retards.

Quote from: tt_four on August 16, 2010, 08:07:43 PM
I agree for the most part as well. Ride a bicycle around city traffic for 2 years and you'll eventually learn that "loud pipes save lives" is really just a way of saying "I'm too lazy to pay attention and would much rather just scream everywhere I go. I could ride on a perfectly silent motorcycle and still probably feel safer than your average guy on a Harley with straight pipes who expects people to hear him. There's not one car I pass on the road that I expect to give me the right of way and there's not one single intersection or cross street that I pass without expecting someone to pull out in front of me. It's definitely a learned skill because I can be in a car with other people and point to a car 15 feet up and say "watch out for this guy, he's about to do something stupid", and every time they do.

I have never heard on this site something more true. "Loud Pipes" is such an idiotic misnomer! As a "cager" I don't hear them until they pass! So what's the point? You as a rider need to be diligent about where you are and what you are doing. If you depend on the noise of your exhaust pipe, in my opinion you are an idiot!, ride smart and expect the unexpected.

So as a non-harley or something like that I totally disagree with "Loud" pipes. They make non-riders hate us. I think it is obtrusive, moronic, irresponsible, egotistical (Look at me), and just down right socially unacceptable. When I go on a ride I don't bother the whole neighborhood, I don't wake up people! (Harley Davidson stopped selling striaght pipes)

Freedom is something that I hold dear. Don't bother me and I won't bother you! MY GOD where has this country gone!

Quote from: JB848 on August 19, 2010, 11:57:53 PM
I totally disagree with "Loud" pipes. They make non-riders hate us.

They even make riders hate other riders. I used to sit right next to the window at work, and all I heard all day were ruff ryders revving their gsxrs and guys on harleys doing the same. It's an F'n red light, let the stupid bike idle! It definitely makes me start to hate motorcycles when I'm having a bad day.

Quote from: JB848 on August 19, 2010, 11:57:53 PM
Freedom is something that I hold dear. Don't bother me and I won't bother you! MY GOD where has this country gone!

People assume that their freedom to do whatever they want means they're obligated to annoy the hell out of everyone around them whenever they feel like it. I stopped at bike night on my way home last night and it's amazing how obnoxious people are. When I see guys revving their choppers after they start them, it never makes me think "ooh listen to that thing", it's just makes them look like their bikes run so poorly that it'll die if they don't rev it non-stop. They're just full grown 13 year olds. Am I made to believe that these $20k choppers don't come with fuel injection with an automatic idle??

No one can deny how good a big V-twin with strait pipes sounds. I mean if you a gear/motor head (as i classify all bikers) and you say you dont like the roar of a big engine with strait pipes your a liar 

I wear glasses and having a 3/4 is easier to take off w/o removing the glasses.