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Dellorto's vs Kadron's (pic heavy)

Started by JB848, October 12, 2010, 11:03:56 AM

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JB848

Quote from: The Buddha on October 12, 2010, 10:41:37 AM
OOOo ... 40 dell's ... I got 42 solex kadrones (very much the equal of 40 dell's cos they are not that efficient) and I may need to fab up the linkage ... however the solex linkage doesn't wear an egg shape in the carb body cos its a sideways dragging linkage not a turning linkage.

BTW have you opened the thing. The damn carb is a joke right ... its about as complicated as a bowl with a hole on the bottom. The solex atleast is.

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Buddha I used to race VW's and build the motors myself. I have owned and thrown away a pair of Kadrons. Back fired and caught the wiring harness on fire. The are junk well at least they used to be. I have had much better luck with the Weber ICT 34mm set up.

The Dellorto's were on a 1904cc Motor with a 74mm Crank x 90.5 pistons and an Engle 126 cam. Ran like a scolded ape! 136HP on the Dyno and 14.6 elapse time at Sacramento Raceway. I grew up in Auburn, Ca and in the 80's Vallero's moved to my town and I dealt with them and Gene Berg. They used to be big competitors on the race track especially at the Sacramento Bugorama

Biggest thing with the Dellorto's was at a certain speed they would whistle (drove me crazy!) the fix was an after market gasket that filled in the hole that was causing it in the intake velocity stack.

Anyway I will have to post some pics. I am out of the VW business all I have left is the carbs!


The Buddha

Solex kadrons make good street carbs, I wont run em on anything larger than my 1835, the damn thing was in my baja, a car that would climb a 30 degree slope in the wet dirt and get to the point of damn near jumping off by the time it got to the top.

I dunno about catching fire though. I'll watch for that and carry a fire extinguisher ...
These buggers make torque. They work just fine for street and highway, I never will race the thing, its a convt. I need low and slow baby.

Anyway how much you want for webers. Are they jetted for an 1835 stroker ? Or you suggest a starting point ? I actually also have a nice stock carb. I may run it ... I like street carbs.

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JB848

I don't have the Webers anymore and they were set up for the 1776cc I had in my street daily driver that I sold.

The Dellorto's I have were set up for the 1904cc which had .041 heads and the other parts I all ready mentioned.

I did however use them for a awhile on a 1641cc motor I built for fun out of spare parts and they ran just fine. Gas mileage suffered but it's too much to resist passing people in a Bug going up Donner Pass on I-80 going skiing  :thumb:

The Buddha

Doood ... you wanna sell me some dell-orto's or what ...
Of course the damn convt has no pan to speak of, its mostly rusted away ... possibly heater channel needs work too ... why dont you come over and fix the thing for me.
Just unbolt the blooming body and fix them.

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JB848

Yeah, I need to pull them out of storage and check them out. Willing to trade for parts or services if you want.

The Buddha

Quote from: JB848 on October 12, 2010, 04:02:39 PM
Yeah, I need to pull them out of storage and check them out. Willing to trade for parts or services if you want.

K find em and hit me ... and WTF you doing Post whoring for what looks like no apparent reason ... you run out of your medication ... do we need to get some professionals over there to "quon" you ...
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The Buddha

OK dude ... you know anything about stuffing a 2 L subaru motor in a VW. Cos I can get a subaru motor for 100 bucks.
I am into the air cooled vw but sadly I am a bigger fan of a reliable car and am a convt nut, if it aint a convt I dont want it. That sorta thing.
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JB848

No luck on other motor conversions. Only VW performance.

So "Cough..Cough" I pulled out the carbs and man they are filthy dusty!


Missing center linkage

Dellorto Made in Italy

DRLA 40MM

The velocity stacks inside the K&N Filters and top covers

They are heavier then I remember. Won't be cheap to ship!

The Buddha

Boob-a-roo motor man ... I think I can even do AC in that ...
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OK you lost me on that one? AC? Automatic Choke? Aircondition?

The Buddha

Air conditioning. I am serious. Anyway my mechanic better get warmed up to that idea ... cos he know nothing about suby's.
Boob-a-roo ...

Apparently there is a few ... more than a few vw busses with suby svt motors in them in my neighborhood.
One guy got a porsche 911 motor in a ghia too.

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I had a VW bus and got sick of rebuilding the 1600 twin port POS, so I put an 1800cc EA81 Subaru in it. Pulled harder using less fuel and very reliable. Guy over here makes adapter plates for all kinds of swaps, including Range Rover alloy V8. The radiator is the thing, most guys put them up front and use exhaust tube to move the water, on mine I put the radiator in the back, behind the motor. It was on a frame that hinged to the side to allow access. Lot of guys into homebuilt aircraft use the subies, very reliable.

mister

Quote from: the mole on October 18, 2010, 03:42:56 PM
Lot of guys into homebuilt aircraft use the subies, very reliable.

Such as maybe a Jabiru?

I'd like to take one for a flight to see what they're like (Jabiru). For that matter, I'd like to take a Canard for a spin too...


Last thing I flew was a Drifter out of Boonah. Man, so long ago. Do they even make them anymore?


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JB848



Buddha here are the Dell's in my 1971 VW 1904cc before it was painted.



And after it was painted.



And then after that I put it in my 1970



Most of the parts from my 71 went into my 70. This before I de-chromed an repainted it same color.



I have better pics but I need to scan them. In both of these pics the motor had a standard offset fan shrowd. I put a 36HP Dog House that had the offset for the oil cooler. This made it much easier to work on the Dell's



The Buddha

Perfect, I got offset dog house already ...
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I found a rebuild kit on ebay for 20 bones. Also I weighed them as is at 15lbs. You still interested?

Here are some more pics I found.





The Buddha

Dude dont ship me the whole bloody voltswagen ... just the little carbies will do ...
Anyway how much ?
I dont like that linkage, it wears an egg in the carb body, and sadly we cannot reverse the thing like a chain.
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I know seriuosly I can't believe how heavy they are even after I took off of the muffler bearings and the choke knot!

If you are going to do a Subura adaptation why would you want the Dells? They are yours if you want them. I think I can break them down and fit them in medium US Postage. We'll discuss price on PM. Let me see if they fit first.

Two things needed with anything 1835cc and over is..



2 1/2 Quart Sump totally eliminated Oil starvation.



External filter away from the hot Engine compartment, also added another quart with the lines and filter.


The Buddha

Yea I would like em webers ... I am not quite sure about subie ... I wont do it as long as I have a living 1835 though, and I will maintain it like a maniac, so essentially I will altogether probably never do a subie ... maybe get a sedan and stuff a subie in it. Or a thing ... or a ghia ... dammit so many choices.
Anyway PM me ...
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The baja had the remote filter and a piggyback oil cooler. I got those pieces and I am yet to touch the bug in a month.
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