Quote from: Paulcet on October 26, 2010, 04:58:26 PM
Hmmm.  I have been using the Fram CH6000 and the first o-ring was fine. But the 4 I have bought since have o-rings that are too small.  I just figured that the batch that went to the stores in this area were made too small.  So, Cookie, are you saying the seal that is a different size is the o-ring for the cover, or is it the seal on the filter itself(large rubber grommet)?

I went to the FRAM website.............they show two different filters...........the dimensions are different....I just don't know which dimensions they are talking about..........

They mention a GS 500 with shaft drive.............never heard of such a thing............

So I still don't know wheter to get the CH6000 or CH6001


Cookie

Quote from: Paulcet on October 26, 2010, 04:58:26 PM
Hmmm.  I have been using the Fram CH6000 and the first o-ring was fine. But the 4 I have bought since have o-rings that are too small.  I just figured that the batch that went to the stores in this area were made too small.  So, Cookie, are you saying the seal that is a different size is the o-ring for the cover, or is it the seal on the filter itself(large rubber grommet)?

OK.....I think I just answered my own question..........

The two fram parts numbers.........CH6000 and CH6001.......the difference is the O-ring, not the filter element.

CH6000 has 3.74" O.D. O-ring
CH6001 has 4.00" O.D. O- ring

Specs for the filter element are the same for either/ both


Cookie

SUZUKI GS500E 1989 500cc  
SUZUKI GS500E 1990 500cc  
SUZUKI GS500E 1991 500cc  
SUZUKI GS500E 1992 500cc  
SUZUKI GS500E 1993 500cc  
SUZUKI GS500E 1994 500cc  
SUZUKI GS500E 1995 500cc  
SUZUKI GS500E 1996 500cc  
SUZUKI GS500E 1997 500cc  
SUZUKI GS500E 1998 500cc  
SUZUKI GS500E 1999 500cc  
SUZUKI GS500E 2000 500cc  
SUZUKI GS500F 2004 500cc Shaft Drive  
SUZUKI GS500F 2005 500cc Shaft Drive  
SUZUKI GS500F 2006 500cc Shaft Drive  
SUZUKI GS500F 2007 500cc Shaft Drive  
SUZUKI GS500F 2008 500cc Shaft Drive

There is a Vinson Shaft Drive,they must have made a typo or it is the same part that is cross referenced.

I use the CH6000 Fram, my local dealer's catalog shows it for all GS500,550 from 77-10.  I saw that Fram site listing, it must be a typo of some kind, never heard of a shaft drive GS500.  Also the Suzuki oem parts fiches show the same oil filter for all GS500/E/F from 89-09.

I like to stick numbers like that in the Dennis Kirk search and see what fitments they list:

http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/Product.jsp;jsessionid=BPVRNQTJP45QRQFIDYFCM4WAVAPAQIV0?store=&skuId=30600&mmy=

Like I said gsJack it's a typo but thanks a bunch for the cross reference info

Quote from: gsJack on October 26, 2010, 08:45:48 PM
I use the CH6000 Fram, my local dealer's catalog shows it for all GS500,550 from 77-10.  I saw that Fram site listing, it must be a typo of some kind, never heard of a shaft drive GS500.  Also the Suzuki oem parts fiches show the same oil filter for all GS500/E/F from 89-09.

What about the included O-ring.........does the CH 6000 O-ring fit?  What year is your bike?

Yes the FRAM filters ....CH 6000 or CH 6001 are the same element, so will fit all those years / bikes........

Cookie

Quote from: twocool on October 26, 2010, 08:00:35 PM

Quote from: Paulcet on October 26, 2010, 04:58:26 PM
Hmmm.  I have been using the Fram CH6000 and the first o-ring was fine. But the 4 I have bought since have o-rings that are too small.  I just figured that the batch that went to the stores in this area were made too small.  So, Cookie, are you saying the seal that is a different size is the o-ring for the cover, or is it the seal on the filter itself(large rubber grommet)?

OK.....I think I just answered my own question..........

The two fram parts numbers.........CH6000 and CH6001.......the difference is the O-ring, not the filter element.

CH6000 has 3.74" O.D. O-ring
CH6001 has 4.00" O.D. O- ring

Specs for the filter element are the same for either/ both


Cookie

Looks like the 4" o-ring would work for me.  I'll get a CH6001 next time. Is that what I should have been getting all along?

You may want to double check your internal specs on the 6001- the opening in the filter that fits over the "shaft" inside  is different if memory serves ( not a huge amount..). If it's loose on the shaft you wont be getting very much filtering.If it's too tight...well it wont fit or you may mess up the rubber ring inside .....


The O ring being different in the packaging...(ch6000) -- Haven't had one not fit for me yet...or you can always get them from the dealer (filter and or oring..)...

Poked around for a sec....
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=7597.msg64152#msg64152

Thanks Jared.  I'll do some poking around at the parts stores and compare o-rings.

Quote from: twocool on October 27, 2010, 03:48:47 AM

Quote from: gsJack on October 26, 2010, 08:45:48 PM
I use the CH6000 Fram, my local dealer's catalog shows it for all GS500,550 from 77-10.  I saw that Fram site listing, it must be a typo of some kind, never heard of a shaft drive GS500.  Also the Suzuki oem parts fiches show the same oil filter for all GS500/E/F from 89-09.

What about the included O-ring.........does the CH 6000 O-ring fit?  What year is your bike?

Yes the FRAM filters ....CH 6000 or CH 6001 are the same element, so will fit all those years / bikes........

Cookie

Yes, the CH6000 or CH6001 filters will fit all 89-10 GS500/E/F bikes, like you pointed out only the o-ring is different.  Not going to check all the bikes listed that use the CH6001 filter but I checked one, the 82 GS1100E, and it uses the same 16510-45040 Suzi oem filter that the GS's use but has a different o-ring listed.

The CH6000 included o-ring fits my current 2002 GS and fit my previous 97 GS or I should probably say it almost fits.    Like Paulcet mentioned above some of the Fram included o-rings are a bit small like they are dried out or something and need to be stretched a bit and held in place with a bit of extra grease while putting the cover on like the one I used a couple days ago.

Since we're already off topic 

Does anyone know who makes the factory Suzuki oil filters?

OK...so I go down to Advance Auto and order two oil filters...FRAM 6001........I figured for $6 each O-ring included, it was a better deal than ordering Suzuki filters online and ordering the O-rings seperate.......

So the filters came in today....looks like correct filter element, but the O-ring is completly the wrong shape!

The Suzuki O-ring is a circle with three indents.........the fram o-ring is more like a square with lots of indents...WTF?


Cookie

Can't answer your question directly, but the CH6000 comes with an o-ring the correct shape. But the last several have been too small to use.

Maybe the CH6001 comes with an o-ring for a filter cover with 4 bolts?

Quote from: Paulcet on October 28, 2010, 05:14:06 PM
Can't answer your question directly, but the CH6000 comes with an o-ring the correct shape. But the last several have been too small to use.

Maybe the CH6001 comes with an o-ring for a filter cover with 4 bolts?

I just checked SHS powersports online where I previously ordered fliters and o-rings OEM......

Filter element is $4.23
O-Ring is $3.35

Just about a buck more than I paid at Advance auto........

You gotta add for shipping too.......but I think I'll order a few at a time......plus change the o ring only when it is looking bad.......also wait to need other crap to make shipping worthwhile.......

Cookie

Quote from: gsJack on October 26, 2010, 08:45:48 PM
I use the CH6000 Fram, my local dealer's catalog shows it for all GS500,550 from 77-10.  I saw that Fram site listing, it must be a typo of some kind, never heard of a shaft drive GS500.  Also the Suzuki oem parts fiches show the same oil filter for all GS500/E/F from 89-09.

Quote from: gsJack on October 27, 2010, 06:42:20 AM
The CH6000 included o-ring fits my current 2002 GS and fit my previous 97 GS or I should probably say it almost fits.    Like Paulcet mentioned above some of the Fram included o-rings are a bit small like they are dried out or something and need to be stretched a bit and held in place with a bit of extra grease while putting the cover on like the one I used a couple days ago.