Well. I fianlly broke down and bought a pair of boots.  Ordered from Revzilla........showed up in two days, FREE SHIPPING!

I put on over 20,000 miles in the last two years, in sneakers.....(Not a good idea, but I did).....

Boots are TCX....X cube..........

Fit well...nice quality.....a little stiff......but it will be at least two months before riding weather here.  Unless we get the occasional unusually warm day.

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They'll stay a little stiff, that's how they protect your ankles. Riding in real boots makes a world of difference. You'll love them when spring comes around.