News:

The simplest way to help GStwin is to use this Amazon link to shop

Main Menu

Srinath's handlebars may have saved my life!!!

Started by onefastvega, March 12, 2004, 03:04:28 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

onefastvega

I bought his after my stockers got bent.  Today, a truck pulled left in front of me.  I hit his door at a 45 degree angle going roughly 15 mph.  I was not wearing a helmet and I feel like a total idiot :x

Anyway, the handlebars ended up taking all the impact of the collision.  They snapped at the weld as seen in the pic.  I felt nothing and my body lightly scraped the truck before the bike and I fell over.  And my shoe came off.  The bike is fine I think.




PS... can I get another pair Srinath? :mrgreen:

Frost

why does the shoes always come off during an accident?
wileyco, K&N pod, rejet 22.5/65/147.5, F16 flyscreen, progressive springs, 15t front sprocket...more to come: katana shock

The Buddha

OK looks like I can weld it back... send it to me, it will also let me analyse the depth of weld etc and see if we can can improve on the design. OK that also looks like it was a huge impact, cos we could not break them and we tried with a 10 foot pole slipped over the end of the bar and the other end put in a pipe buried in the floor for some or other reason... BUt impact load is different from 2 guys pulling on it.
Cool.
Srinath.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
I run a business based on other people's junk.
-----------------------------------------------------------------

pantablo

Quote from: Frostwhy does the shoes always come off during an accident?

because of the tremendous forces actin on your body on impact. Wear proper motorcycle boots and it wont happen.
Pablo-
http://pantablo500.tripod.com/
www.pma-architect.com


Quote from: makenzie71 on August 21, 2006, 09:47:40 PM...not like normal sex, either...like sex with chicks.

JamesG

Lets hear it for poor welding!

:cheers:  :mrgreen:  :nana:
James Greeson
GS Posse
WERA #306


mwdbruno

OooooHhhh...I'm ducking, this is gonna get UGLY!!!!     :o
_______________________________________
"Respect my authoriti!!"  Eric Cartman
______________________________________

GRU

Quote from: JamesGLets hear it for poor welding!

:cheers:  :mrgreen:  :nana:

oh no you didn't, no you didn't  :x

Rema1000

Is that a spot of rust at the top of the break?  Did the bike get rained on between the accident and the picture?  If there were a spot of rust there, that can indicate that there was a hairline crack in the weld before the accident.

I had a stick-shift in a Ford van that went that way:  the think was almost 1/2" diameter steel, but I went to shift into 3rd and it snapped off, leaving the van in 2nd for the rest of the semester (!).  On the surface of the break, I could see some corrosion.
You cannot escape our master plan!

onefastvega

I will work on sending back to you, just as soon as I get done around here.  


Ya it did rain, a lot in fact and I did notice rust spots in the areas around the weld.  I was thinking that you need some sort of inner support where the welds meet, a rod or something.

The Buddha

Poor welding... ok fine maybe. I went to the welders shop today and tried to bend/break the rejects and proto types... they all held up well ... Its probably 3 times stronger than the stock even with poor welding. Anyway its supposed to break right next to the weld if stressed enough. At the weld is bad... however the bar is 3/16 wall... weld penetration if its incomplete will break at the weld... Its monstrously strong compared to stock... however the stock will have bent into a bow tie instead of breaking... weld is brittle. Now instead of sending it to me and being without handle bars... lemme send you one and then after you put it on send me the old one. Or you can get that welded up at a muffler shop... just tell them to crank the current all the way high, and the wire very very slow, oh they probably know that thick wall needs good heat...
Cool.
Srinath.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
I run a business based on other people's junk.
-----------------------------------------------------------------

The Buddha

Oh and if it breaks near the weld you cant weld it back... Might want to get the 3/16th welded back even if it didn't completely penetrate... cos the next batch is going to have 100% penetration of weld ... monstrously strong and if you were to stress it enough will break the way its supposed to... we already tested it.
Cool.
Srinath.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
I run a business based on other people's junk.
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Blueknyt

QuoteOh and if it breaks near the weld you cant weld it back

Dont tell my past Cars/trucks/bikes that, they might fall apart.


Honestly, thats pretty fresh rust, but Blowing up the pic it looks more like Not quite enough penetration.  Srinath, Try Beveling the ends alittlebit and fill in the groove or Bump the heat up alittle bit, are you using AC or DC output?   i have seen alot of welds hold up to the Bend test, but fail the shock and shear tests. Mine included among some of them, But only once, most never break a second time.  

I have Reburned welds with No problem, just up the heat or work alittle slower.  Cuting the welds with Blades, thats another matter.
Accelerate like your being chased, Corner like you mean it, Brake as if you life depends on it.
Ride Hard...or go home.

Its you Vs the pavement.....who wins today?

pantablo

Srinath's $40 bars....vs...Suburban-machinery $125 bars.

You be the judge.
Pablo-
http://pantablo500.tripod.com/
www.pma-architect.com


Quote from: makenzie71 on August 21, 2006, 09:47:40 PM...not like normal sex, either...like sex with chicks.

Cal Price

Well the way I see it energy has to disapate somewhere, the bar broke not the rider. Is'nt that a result?
Black Beemer  - F800ST.
In Cricket the testicular guard, or Box, was introduced in 1874. The helmet was introduced in 1974. Is there a message??

The Buddha

Quote from: pantabloSrinath's $40 bars....vs...Suburban-machinery $125 bars.

You be the judge.

Hey Pablo,
Haven't you broken the SM's... Atleast these are easy to repair cheap.
Cool.
Srinath.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
I run a business based on other people's junk.
-----------------------------------------------------------------

john

The expectation of it not breaking is pretty high.  Hitting a moving vehicle certainly sends way more load than any handlebar could expect to survive.  The stock bar would have folded or bent in to the tank.

I say send Srinath the $ for a replacement set.  Just my opinion.
There is more to this site than a message board.  Check out http://www.gstwin.com

Fear the banana hammer!

spotswood_suzuki

okay....enough about the weld....you said you and the bike fell over and the bike is okay...HOW ABOUT YOU :o ??  Hope you won't go out without a helmet again.....sounds like you may have been lucky this time :roll:

Wayne

The Buddha

No problem that it broke... Hit anything hard enough and it will break... but a clean break separating the welded pieces perfectly is bad weld penetration. I am thinking I'll send all the guys that bought them some $$ back, and please take it to a welder/muffler shop and weld up the thing. Send it to me and I'll weld it and send back... but that means a lot of $$$ to UPS. I talked to my welder in detail last night... I'll post tommorow after talking to him some more and post the right resolution. And onefastvega please use a helmet, and dont do stupid things... I am feeling a little down, on seeing Ken (werase643) crash and break his collar bone... and possibly spending the night in the hospital... all in the first lap of his first race. This sure is a bad week for people that hang around me...
Cool.
Srinath.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
I run a business based on other people's junk.
-----------------------------------------------------------------

rideLIKEjehu

srinath, i paypalled you $52 on friday AM. i'm having some second thoughts now, let us know what you and your welder decide...

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk