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Flick is still sick!

Started by Toogoofy317, August 08, 2011, 08:53:17 PM

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Toogoofy317

The fuel hoses are new. Yup the tank petcock is completely horizontal we tripled checked when placing it back on to get it just right. The needle is secure in the diaphraghm mechanism. One slide is slightly rough but put a little scratch filler on it just in case and now is baby smooth.

Someone said something about O rings around the jets? I don't ever recall taking o-rings from the brass jets. They are clean too soaked in carb cleaner then took the air compressor needle and shot air through it. Had to hold 'em with a pair of pliers so they wouldn't fly away LOL!
2004 F, Fenderectomy, barends, gsxr-pegs, pro grip gel covers, 15th JT sprocket, stock decals gone,custom chain guard,GSXR integrated mirrors, flush mount signals, 150 rear tire,white rims, rebuilt top end, V&H Exhaust, Custom heel and chain guard (Adidasguy)

ben2go

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Quote from: twinrat on August 11, 2011, 01:23:09 AM
Mary check that you have the needle in the slides pushed hard home they have an o ring on them to hold them in place. other posability is a sliver of rubber has come off the hose that attaches to tap under the tank having been off several times can get into carbs when on prime
Good luck

There are no O rings on the slide needles.This is the stock set up.
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The Buddha

Quote from: Toogoofy317 on August 11, 2011, 05:40:26 AM
The fuel hoses are new. Yup the tank petcock is completely horizontal we tripled checked when placing it back on to get it just right. The needle is secure in the diaphraghm mechanism. One slide is slightly rough but put a little scratch filler on it just in case and now is baby smooth.

Someone said something about O rings around the jets? I don't ever recall taking o-rings from the brass jets. They are clean too soaked in carb cleaner then took the air compressor needle and shot air through it. Had to hold 'em with a pair of pliers so they wouldn't fly away LOL!

Sweetie - tank petcock needs to be veritcal - unless you gooberated somehting inside ...
Cool.
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ben2go

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Quote from: Toogoofy317 on August 11, 2011, 05:40:26 AM
The fuel hoses are new. Yup the tank petcock is completely horizontal we tripled checked when placing it back on to get it just right. The needle is secure in the diaphraghm mechanism. One slide is slightly rough but put a little scratch filler on it just in case and now is baby smooth.

Someone said something about O rings around the jets? I don't ever recall taking o-rings from the brass jets. They are clean too soaked in carb cleaner then took the air compressor needle and shot air through it. Had to hold 'em with a pair of pliers so they wouldn't fly away LOL!

Tank petcock should be set to vertical in the on position unless it was reassembled the wrong way.

No O rings on the jets.There are O rings in the hole where the mixture screws are.I know your carbs are a little different.
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twinrat

hopefully this pic comes thru   this is the oring that i was talking about. oring and holder need to be pressed hard home in slide or needle will float up and down as you throttle on and off, the small spring can come off if not carefull  ?is it still there??

ben2go

Dang! I really need to get my hands on a set of new style carbs.They are way different than the 89-00 carbs.
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Toogoofy317

I was referring to the on off valve under the tank.  :embarrassed: It has to be turned completely horizontal or it will not let fuel out efficently.

Mary

Flick is doing better but still hanging idle at 3k
2004 F, Fenderectomy, barends, gsxr-pegs, pro grip gel covers, 15th JT sprocket, stock decals gone,custom chain guard,GSXR integrated mirrors, flush mount signals, 150 rear tire,white rims, rebuilt top end, V&H Exhaust, Custom heel and chain guard (Adidasguy)

GSnoober

Hi Mary,

Much as I hate to disagree with you, The Buddha is RIGHT; the fuel valve under the tank must be turned to VERTICAL for fuel to flow.

The ONLY photo I could find is from Kerry's personal website; he is still listed as a moderator here, but he hasn't been online here in the last month, unless he didn't log in...

This is NOT a great photo, but you should be able to see that the valve is VERTICAL:

http://www.bbburma.net/MiscFotos/100_1485_TankPetcockInONPosition.jpg

If you don't agree with this, simply turn the valve to the vertical position and test your GS; what do you have to lose at this point in time?

Someone else might be able to find a better photo, but I'm short on time, and this was the best one I could find under the circumstances. I KNOW I've seen a MUCH better photo previously, but I haven't been able to locate it (here or on the 'net), and I'm out of time.

Turn the valve to the vertical position and see what happens; you're probably losing sleep over this, and I KNOW you want to RIDE!

Best wishes; please let us know how this turns out...

madjak30

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I think you guys are barking up the wrong tree...if the tank petcock was not in the on position, the engine would starve for fuel and not start...she is having a hanging idle issue @ 3000rpm, I don't think her problem is fuel supply...

Quote from: Toogoofy317 on August 15, 2011, 09:29:15 AM
Flick is doing better but still hanging idle at 3k

:confused: :dunno_black:

Sticking throttle cable, or choke cable...improper adjustments on either...??

Later.

Edit: Maybe tank breather issue only flowing enough to let a little fuel through...but that wouldn't cause the idle hang at 3k rpm...hmm...are you still having the no power issue? or has that been dealt with?
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Toogoofy317

Well, the 95 degree heat with 98% humidity has been getting to me in the garage. Yesterday while fidgiting with Flick I was taking the tank off again and (yes it is verticle I believe I may be dislexic) my prop (0ld mc battery) slipped out and the tank with 1 1/2 gallon of gas fell on my forearm  :sad:  I saw my RN manager  'cause my PCP is on vacation and she said with me and what I've lived through she isn't worried " as long as the bone isn't sticking out your not gonna die" . Still hurts though!

I know what the recent loss of power was I didn't look at my jets properly when putting in low to mid range and got 'em backwards on the left side. So, no loss of power now imagine that! Like I said Flick ran pretty well today just idle hanging at 3K. I checked the throttle and choke cables both seem to be ok.

Mary
2004 F, Fenderectomy, barends, gsxr-pegs, pro grip gel covers, 15th JT sprocket, stock decals gone,custom chain guard,GSXR integrated mirrors, flush mount signals, 150 rear tire,white rims, rebuilt top end, V&H Exhaust, Custom heel and chain guard (Adidasguy)

twinrat

Hi mary you have obivously done everything that could be done with your carb settings. have you set your throttle cables and choke cables ,throttle cable needs to be able to be snapped open and able to snap shut try this at least half a dozen times   do it with the tank off so you can see whats happening .you might have the cable routed wrong or your return cable is not adjusted right . i know this is clutching at straws..Good luck   PS dont foreget to let us all know what was the cure when you find it. it may need a good old winchester 30/30 to put flick out of its misery

The Buddha

Quote from: Toogoofy317 on August 15, 2011, 10:38:06 PM
Well, the 95 degree heat with 98% humidity has been getting to me in the garage. Yesterday while fidgiting with Flick I was taking the tank off again and (yes it is verticle I believe I may be dislexic) my prop (0ld mc battery) slipped out and the tank with 1 1/2 gallon of gas fell on my forearm  :sad:  I saw my RN manager  'cause my PCP is on vacation and she said with me and what I've lived through she isn't worried " as long as the bone isn't sticking out your not gonna die" . Still hurts though!

I know what the recent loss of power was I didn't look at my jets properly when putting in low to mid range and got 'em backwards on the left side. So, no loss of power now imagine that! Like I said Flick ran pretty well today just idle hanging at 3K. I checked the throttle and choke cables both seem to be ok.

Mary


Grrrrr ... hanging idle - open air screws 1/2 turn, you're @ 3 ? 3 is a start, adjust to taste baby.

The tank fuel valve may have been wrongly assembled @ some point, it does need the slot vertical with the open end down ward.

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Toogoofy317

Hmmm, well I tried Flick at 3.5 turns out today. No change  :dunno_black:  I also made sure the carbs were synched just in case. With a real carb synch device. If it helps any Flick typically does hang only after warmed up  :dunno_white:

Mary
2004 F, Fenderectomy, barends, gsxr-pegs, pro grip gel covers, 15th JT sprocket, stock decals gone,custom chain guard,GSXR integrated mirrors, flush mount signals, 150 rear tire,white rims, rebuilt top end, V&H Exhaust, Custom heel and chain guard (Adidasguy)

madjak30

Mine was doing that exact thing...it was the idle screw...it had been adjusted when the bike wasn't fully warmed up...that caused me to need the choke more when the "little guy" was still warming up, but the hanging idle was gone once he was warm... :dunno_black:

:cheers:

Later.
** If you're not having fun, you're doing it WRONG**

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Toogoofy317

Hey Jak this is something that I observed last night. The BF put the screws I think it was 2.5 screws out and the hanging idle went away but I couldn't get Flick to idle at all. I tried the throttle screw and it did nothing! So, today one more time I'm going to take out the carbs and have a look at that screw. It felt (and I'm praying this hasn't happened) that it was a stripped screw that you can screw forever. I.E turn and turn nothing but never get to the point of being all the way in or all the way out.

Will give more results later today. I guess it is a good thing with all of this practice I can have the tank off and carbs out in about 20 min. Getting into Flick is no longer a chore LOL! Gotta look at the brightside right?

Mary
2004 F, Fenderectomy, barends, gsxr-pegs, pro grip gel covers, 15th JT sprocket, stock decals gone,custom chain guard,GSXR integrated mirrors, flush mount signals, 150 rear tire,white rims, rebuilt top end, V&H Exhaust, Custom heel and chain guard (Adidasguy)

GSnoober

Keep swinging for the fences, Mary; sooner or later, you're going to smack this one out of the park, and we'll all learn something new because of it.

Toogoofy317

Well, on the throttle screw I was dyslexic I thought screwing clockwise was to increase idles 'doh I almost had the screw out because I had screwed and screwed thought it would be going in but it was going out! Well, now Flick will idle at 1200 but he's hanging again! He will slowly go up to 3K and not come back down without cutting power. The guys at the Motor Cycle Clinic told me they'd do my 22,000 service and do a good once over on Flick for $180. At this point it is starting to look reasonable! I also tried the carb cleaner trick to check for a vacuum leak and nothing I had the tank sitting on a chair while starting him up to see if cables were hanging and none were. IDK!

Mary
2004 F, Fenderectomy, barends, gsxr-pegs, pro grip gel covers, 15th JT sprocket, stock decals gone,custom chain guard,GSXR integrated mirrors, flush mount signals, 150 rear tire,white rims, rebuilt top end, V&H Exhaust, Custom heel and chain guard (Adidasguy)

The Buddha

3.5 on air screw, open to 4 ... or whereever it is, open 1/2 turn.
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Toogoofy317

Alright, I've already got the valve cover off because of a leak when a gasket tore checking stuff. Just going to do some form-a-gasket until I get the school money. But, alright one more half turn out. LOL!

Mary
2004 F, Fenderectomy, barends, gsxr-pegs, pro grip gel covers, 15th JT sprocket, stock decals gone,custom chain guard,GSXR integrated mirrors, flush mount signals, 150 rear tire,white rims, rebuilt top end, V&H Exhaust, Custom heel and chain guard (Adidasguy)

twinrat

just a thought Mary i know you have had carburetors apart .have you had the vacume hoses off .,and if so have you put the check valve back the wrong way round and if not suck it and see it is working correctly.air should only go one way .great to know you are willing to tackle mechanical things  Rod

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