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Flick is still sick!

Started by Toogoofy317, August 08, 2011, 08:53:17 PM

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Toogoofy317

Yup, everything is on correctly by the manual at least. Now I know I should take a pic to show you guys but Flicks tank aint coming off again till the gasket comes in. Did you know I can get my carbs off in 12 1/2 minutes? So there is an area where the carbs are joined with a hose. The hose was bad so BF took it off and said it should not be the culprit but well I think that is all that is left. Ill show with pic in a couple of days when new gasket arrives.

Mary
2004 F, Fenderectomy, barends, gsxr-pegs, pro grip gel covers, 15th JT sprocket, stock decals gone,custom chain guard,GSXR integrated mirrors, flush mount signals, 150 rear tire,white rims, rebuilt top end, V&H Exhaust, Custom heel and chain guard (Adidasguy)

Toogoofy317

Okay I've got the pic hopefully I'll get it up tomorrow but until then here is this:

http://www.ronayers.com/Fiche/TypeID/26/Type/CARBURETOR_MODEL_K4/MakeID/2/Make/Suzuki/YearID/45/Year/2004/ModelID/6807/Model/GS500F/GroupID/290246/Group/CARBURETOR_MODEL_K4

Pretty sure it is #64 that is missing but hard to see on the fiche could be #65 it is the one toward the airbox.

Mary
2004 F, Fenderectomy, barends, gsxr-pegs, pro grip gel covers, 15th JT sprocket, stock decals gone,custom chain guard,GSXR integrated mirrors, flush mount signals, 150 rear tire,white rims, rebuilt top end, V&H Exhaust, Custom heel and chain guard (Adidasguy)

adidasguy

#42
Got a good set of carbs on the shelf taken off of a running 2009. Would photos of that help you?
Boy - new carbs are really different from the older ones!

Noticed a set of carbs for sale on fleabay for $99. The photos look OK so maybe seeing these photos will help. If not, I can take photos of the carbs I have from a 2009 (also got 'em for $99 - pretty good deal I think)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/07-SUZUKI-GS500FK7-GS-500-CARBURETORS-CARBS-CARB-s4-/110735470057?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19c8592de9

Toogoofy317

Grrr, should have taken the pic with the cell phone. Can't get my card reader to work  :sad: I just don't want to take the tank off again. Seems as if he is doing a little better but will know after I take him out to UCF and back!

Mary
2004 F, Fenderectomy, barends, gsxr-pegs, pro grip gel covers, 15th JT sprocket, stock decals gone,custom chain guard,GSXR integrated mirrors, flush mount signals, 150 rear tire,white rims, rebuilt top end, V&H Exhaust, Custom heel and chain guard (Adidasguy)

The Buddha

You're missing the metal tube connecting the 2 vacuum tops ?
OK you may be having a vacuum leak.
Plug the 2 ends @ each carb and try it.
Cool.
Buddha.
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Toogoofy317

Okay, here it is. This is looking from the back of the bike.



If this is the problem I'm going to beat the shiate out of my BF. Only problem is he'd probably enjoy it :whisper:

Mary
2004 F, Fenderectomy, barends, gsxr-pegs, pro grip gel covers, 15th JT sprocket, stock decals gone,custom chain guard,GSXR integrated mirrors, flush mount signals, 150 rear tire,white rims, rebuilt top end, V&H Exhaust, Custom heel and chain guard (Adidasguy)

adidasguy

I show something between those two brassy thingies. Not sure where it goes without looking into Suzi. This set of carbs are extras that will go on the engine for the bike build.



Toogoofy317

Yes, it was broken on Flick. BF said it really wouldn't make a difference if we took it off. I've capped 'em off so lets see how he runs. I'm taking him out to UCF so will be a good hour of riding.

Mary
2004 F, Fenderectomy, barends, gsxr-pegs, pro grip gel covers, 15th JT sprocket, stock decals gone,custom chain guard,GSXR integrated mirrors, flush mount signals, 150 rear tire,white rims, rebuilt top end, V&H Exhaust, Custom heel and chain guard (Adidasguy)

adidasguy

Quote from: Toogoofy317 on September 02, 2011, 08:43:06 AM

If this is the problem I'm going to beat the shiate out of my BF. Only problem is he'd probably enjoy it :whisper:

Mary
"You couldn't put the part back on the carbs and now you can't use a coaster"
"You can't take time to put my carbs back together but you still can spend all day watching football"
"You can't fix my carbs but can flip TV stations every 5 seconds"
"Since you have so much spare time because you didn't spend time on my carbs, we're watching a Threes Company marathon. You'll see how funny Mr Furley really is"
"You won't put the part on my carbs and you won't change the toilet paper. What do you do with your time?"
"Your underwear? You don't wash it the right way so I bought you new tidy whities at Costco."
"You won't plug the hole in the carbs? Guess what hole you won't be plugging tonight."

Nag Nag Nag! that will get him better than beating him up.

Toogoofy317

Okay, I'm really ready to cry now he won't start won't turn over. Starter is kicking in fine but I can't get it going. I unplugged that area thinking maybe that's it. No. Okay, there isn't alot of gas in the tank. Went and grabbed 2.5 gallons nope same thing. He ran yesterday all I did was take off the tank plug that area and put it back on. Double checked everything is on right even popped the gas lid.

Flick when I walk back out to the garage if you don't start I am going to haul you over to Pine Hills and sit you out there for two days and collect the insurance money. BTW no bath this weekend!

Mary
2004 F, Fenderectomy, barends, gsxr-pegs, pro grip gel covers, 15th JT sprocket, stock decals gone,custom chain guard,GSXR integrated mirrors, flush mount signals, 150 rear tire,white rims, rebuilt top end, V&H Exhaust, Custom heel and chain guard (Adidasguy)

The Buddha

So so so so so sorry mary baby, I gave you awful advice.
That however wasn't #64 in teh fiche. I cant see pics at work and so I did it without seeing your pics.
The lower T tube is atmosphere vent, cap it and you will not let fuel out the floats into the motor, please leave em open to air.
Cool.
Buddha.
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rayshon

#51
seems like that bike has been giving you problems forever

i'd sell it and buy a new one  :dunno_black: :dunno_black:

btw that missing part is the Air Vent hose which I don't think really matters if the hose is gone since it goes to nowhere lol

i bet something really small and minor is giving you these problems

rayshon

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rayshon

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Toogoofy317

If you understood my situation you would know why I won't sell Flick. I'm the one partially to blame on this one. Left Flick on the kickstand in prime with that area capped  :oops: Flick's airbox was filled to the brim with gas! The great thing is that I live in Florida and it was a no rain day (why I wanted to ride to school) so the gas evaporated off in the sun in 10 minutes. Never thought I'd be happy about our 90 degree weather but I was yesterday LOL.

So, yes Flick you get a bath today even though your idle still hangs. BTW it did get a little better with the half a turn out Buddha. I don't hang as often but when it does it will go up to almost 5k rather than the normal 3.5K. But, I'm one half away from being all the way out. Is that normal? I took a video on my phone but I can't attach it to e-mail. So, not sure how I can send it! Sooo, glad I didn't yell at my BF about that vent hose.  :kiss3:

Mary
2004 F, Fenderectomy, barends, gsxr-pegs, pro grip gel covers, 15th JT sprocket, stock decals gone,custom chain guard,GSXR integrated mirrors, flush mount signals, 150 rear tire,white rims, rebuilt top end, V&H Exhaust, Custom heel and chain guard (Adidasguy)

bill14224

This is why I don't futz with my carbs unless I HAVE TO.  My bike is 10 years older, has more miles, and gives me less trouble. (almost none)  When I bought this bike it ran great but my idle would hang once fully hot just as you describe.  I put Marvel Mystery Oil in the gas and the problem eventually went away.  Perhaps MMO did the trick, perhaps just riding it displaced the offending particles.  I don't know and I don't care either.  Your slides are not returning to the bottom during decel, causing the hang.  That's all it is, Mary.  Your bike is too new to have so many problems.  Or is it possible the E models are made better than the faired bikes?  I seriously doubt it or this board would be loaded with people having problems with late model GS's and we don't see that.  Best of luck!
V&H pipes, K&N drop-in, seat by KnoPlace.com, 17/39 sprockets, matching grips, fenderectomy, short signals, new mirrors - 10 scariest words: "I'm here from the government and I'm here to help!"

The Buddha

OK so how many turns out on air screws now ?
If its like 6 or so, yea you can have em drop and lose em ... check float level ...
I have the carbs sitting in the truck as we speak though ... I will get it jetted and prep on sending it.
Cool.
Buddha.

Quote from: Toogoofy317 on September 03, 2011, 08:51:22 AM
If you understood my situation you would know why I won't sell Flick. I'm the one partially to blame on this one. Left Flick on the kickstand in prime with that area capped  :oops: Flick's airbox was filled to the brim with gas! The great thing is that I live in Florida and it was a no rain day (why I wanted to ride to school) so the gas evaporated off in the sun in 10 minutes. Never thought I'd be happy about our 90 degree weather but I was yesterday LOL.

So, yes Flick you get a bath today even though your idle still hangs. BTW it did get a little better with the half a turn out Buddha. I don't hang as often but when it does it will go up to almost 5k rather than the normal 3.5K. But, I'm one half away from being all the way out. Is that normal? I took a video on my phone but I can't attach it to e-mail. So, not sure how I can send it! Sooo, glad I didn't yell at my BF about that vent hose.  :kiss3:

Mary
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twinrat

you were on RonAyers site  look at o ring #35 #7 #17 #14 . still think  you have dropped the spring off that holder that keeps the needle in contact with the slide . had a similar effect when i lost the clip that held the needle in an amal carb and tied a bit of fuse wire in the clip groove ,when i throttled off engine would some times hang because it was realy only floating in slide and not closing off needle jet properly

Toogoofy317

Hey twin I know everything is in place with the O-rings with the exception of 17 I'm not sure where that apparatus is going to so if you can give me a relative are where that is I will double check.

Buddha, Float hights are in check I am 3.5 screws out but it seems like anymore and they will fall out like you said. It seems that 4.5 is all that they will screw out without falling  :dunno_black:

Mary
2004 F, Fenderectomy, barends, gsxr-pegs, pro grip gel covers, 15th JT sprocket, stock decals gone,custom chain guard,GSXR integrated mirrors, flush mount signals, 150 rear tire,white rims, rebuilt top end, V&H Exhaust, Custom heel and chain guard (Adidasguy)

The Buddha

Quote from: Toogoofy317 on September 05, 2011, 02:12:42 PM
Hey twin I know everything is in place with the O-rings with the exception of 17 I'm not sure where that apparatus is going to so if you can give me a relative are where that is I will double check.

Buddha, Float hights are in check I am 3.5 screws out but it seems like anymore and they will fall out like you said. It seems that 4.5 is all that they will screw out without falling  :dunno_black:

Mary

No, over 6 to fall out, and heck get those rubber caps @ the furniture section in lowes and you cap em and it will never fall out ... unscrew away my friend 3.5 ... I set my dog to 3.5 ... well I set carbs to 3 for a start, but 3.5 aint nothing I wont even start posting till you got 5.5  ...

These carbs I dug out are in no way fit for a bike, knew something was wrong ... yup, air jet boogereated ... and the bloody thing is pressed in ...

Cool.
Buddha.
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