Yeah, thanks for the links too.
It gave me an opportunity to take a glance at Workers World Party, and Socialist Workers Party, etc. . .
Scary stuff. This is one of the first boasts I came across;
"It supports affirmative action as necessary in the fight for equality".

Lord knows, people aren't equal at all, and using a standing army of government controlled law officers to force things into their perverse version of equality is some frightening stuff indeed.
Sounds like a buzz-line for 90% of the loafers living off the 10% that will always work hard and be gainfully productive.

The sad part is; there actually is a small percent of people that have mental, physical or unforeseen cash flow hardships and truly deserve government or faith based charity.
The poor souls in need are the ones that get short-changed by the Occupy Wall Street hyenas and their self serving equality bull. 

books not bombs? .. So sort of like a clusterbomb effect but more papery! .. Reckon a encyclopedia set from 10000 feet would still do some damage .. Be a complete Buddha Loves You to aim well tho .. And for the valentines day strikes some mills and boon paperbacks plus heart shaped mines ... Chuckle chortle

Quote from: Electrojake on November 05, 2011, 04:46:53 PM
Yeah, thanks for the links too.
It gave me an opportunity to take a glance at Workers World Party, and Socialist Workers Party, etc. . .
Scary stuff. This is one of the first boasts I came across;
"It supports affirmative action as necessary in the fight for equality".

Lord knows, people aren't equal at all, and using a standing army of government controlled law officers to force things into their perverse version of equality is some frightening stuff indeed.
Sounds like a buzz-line for 90% of the loafers living off the 10% that will always work hard and be gainfully productive.

The sad part is; there actually is a small percent of people that have mental, physical or unforeseen cash flow hardships and truly deserve government or faith based charity.
The poor souls in need are the ones that get short-changed by the Occupy Wall Street hyenas and their self serving equality bull. 

agreed  ( long story lol)

Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on November 06, 2011, 12:42:50 AM
agreed  ( long story lol)

The negative stigma shed upon the use government assistance is usually caused by those that have never been down and out.
In my middle class world I do pretty good. My wife & I both work full time and it equates to a great lifestyle but things can change in the blink of an eye.

A lay-off, health issues, or an accident changes everything.
Without our lucrative income we would crash and burn in a matter of months. My beautiful house, cars, bikes, savings, all gone. Poof!
It's a delicate balance and I rather not think about it but "life happens".
Sometimes charity (especially when kids are involved) is the difference between carrying a family or person through their hard times and total disaster.

Wonder how much community service the Occupy Wall Street crowd does via their church group?
Wonder if they sign-up for weekly payroll deduction out of their check for charitable contributions at work?
Wonder how often they buy that extra pack of Pampers or case of baby formula at the market to drop at the community food drive each month?
Maybe the Occupy Wall Street crowd should stop trying to save the world and start by helping humans one at a time.
Just a thought, 
-Ej- 

i think they should get a job first. and try life out BEFORE complaining that it is too hard for them

Yeah, when people biatch about life being hard I always wonder.... compared to what?

Michael

Quote from: mister on November 07, 2011, 04:20:43 AM
Yeah, when people biatch about life being hard I always wonder.... compared to what?

Michael

The dead I geuss.  The lucky buggers get to lay around all day and do stuff all.

These Occupy clowns are too stupid to understand ... you get change going by voting. You dont vote in the mid term elections you are freaking doomed. In the presidential elections there is no use fielding a third candidate. It will only split the votes of the main stream 2 that are closest to your ideals.
However in a mid term, the occupy candidate can actually get enough votes to win. The Tea party was a good concept till they sold out to the Koch Brothers.
Start there, 2 years too late and clueless as usual "herd".

Cool.
Buddha.

Oh god Buddah dont mention the V word, Mister can only be controlled for so long. But I re itterate my previous post. Shoot them or water cannon them or pepper spray them, or shoot them with bean bags! God damn hippies.

Quote from: aussiegs on November 07, 2011, 03:10:48 PM
But I re itterate my previous post. Shoot them or water cannon them or pepper spray them, or shoot them with bean bags! God damn hippies.

But tell us how you really feel... 

The protest is a valid form of participating in politics...the practice is to get everyones attention (check), then present a unified message or stance on an issue (ummm, kinda missed on that one)...the problem is, if you go down there and talk to 10 different people you will get 10 different reasons for them being there...

Someone mentioned that a thousand voices may not be heard, but a million would...if the million voices are all saying something different, then it is just noise and noise gets blocked out.

They have lost their effectiveness to reach the public...most people don't care anymore and want them to just go home and "get a job!!"

Just my opinion of course!!

Later.

We can winge gripe and beech all we want but I've accepted the fact that not much is gonba change. The people in power will get there way. Therefore if you can't beat them join them.

Quote from: aussiegs on November 07, 2011, 04:31:43 PM
We can winge gripe and beech all we want but I've accepted the fact that not much is gonba change.
The people in power will get there way.
Therefore if you can't beat them join them.

I always felt the country (or system) would have to hit rock-bottom before a group of patriots would be willing to fight to the death for their cause.
We as a civilized democracy would have to decay well beyond bankruptcy - to near anarchy before there will be any real change.
Most people will gladly give up their freedom & liberty for some false security and a little comfort.
In the social context , we're all good little subjects whether we like to admit it or not.

There aren't two parties. There is one govt and all voting does is change a few puppets / fallguys/ scapegoats. The underlying remains the same, so nothing changes. The parties aren't two sides of the coin, the are both on the same side of the coin. The machine keeps going no matter who the figure head is. THAT is why nothing changes. That is why voting is pointless.

It's the illusion of choice and nothing more.

Michael

i trolled a few of their videos. saying ive got a perfect solution. GOYBAADS Get off Your Big Ass and Do Something. aka work

Quote from: mister on November 07, 2011, 07:24:59 PM
There aren't two parties. There is one govt and all voting does is change a few puppets / fallguys/ scapegoats.
The underlying remains the same, so nothing changes. The parties aren't two sides of the coin, the are both on the same side of the coin.
The machine keeps going no matter who the figure head is. THAT is why nothing changes. That is why voting is pointless.
It's the illusion of choice and nothing more.

Michael

Exactly. Correct on every count!
As I often try to explain to my right leaning politically active spouse, It's the politicians vs. the people, NOT the conservatives vs. liberals.
"It's the illusion of choice and nothing more"
The politicians are laughing their collective as$es off.

Its the bureaucrats vs the people, the bureaucracy was installed by the politcal class which is funded by the plutocrats.
You cannot get to politicians due to the bureaucrats.

BTW whenever I hear teh word bureaucrats I am reminded of the numb3rs episode where the guy calls FBI as Fools Bureaucrats and Idiots.

Cool.
Buddha.

Quote from: The Buddha on November 08, 2011, 03:14:12 PM

... which is funded by the plutocrats.

Plutocrats eh?
Dam nice wordmanship TB.

Quote from: Electrojake on November 08, 2011, 02:43:39 PM

Quote from: mister on November 07, 2011, 07:24:59 PM
There aren't two parties. There is one govt and all voting does is change a few puppets / fallguys/ scapegoats.
The underlying remains the same, so nothing changes. The parties aren't two sides of the coin, the are both on the same side of the coin.
The machine keeps going no matter who the figure head is. THAT is why nothing changes. That is why voting is pointless.
It's the illusion of choice and nothing more.

Michael

Exactly. Correct on every count!
As I often try to explain to my right leaning politically active spouse, It's the politicians vs. the people, NOT the conservatives vs. liberals.
"It's the illusion of choice and nothing more"
The politicians are laughing their collective as$es off.

Indeed. Divided we fall. The pollies know this. So create a divided populace. Men vs women, brown vs cream, state vs state, north vs south, affinity group vs affinity group, etc. And say it is all in the name of "equality" and XYZ Rights. Harrison Bergeron http://www.tnellen.com/cybereng/harrison.html

A brilliant piece of Illusional Choice was down here.... one airport used to have free drop off for taxis and buses and smaller mini-bus type businesses offering airport transfers. They wanted to charge, to go from Free to Charge. A hard sell. So what they did was... okay everyone, you now have four weeks to stump up $3,000 for an annual airport dropoff license. As can be imagined, there was much moaning and the like. So after a week and a half it was announced, okay, you can have the option of paying $X every time you drop off or pick up - or - pay the $3k lump sum. And the "pay per drop" was welcomed with open arms.

They had turned a hard sell - something for free now being paid for - into the people gladly welcoming a piecemeal charge. The illusion of choice. Pay or pay. That's not choice. Brilliantly executed though. Now noone questions the charge.

Michael

Oh yea we have that same thing here too. We have this thing called a 2 party system. Then someone out of the blue can run for president. Then just cos you're on a paper a few million bozo's will vote for you. Then they will spend the next 4 years arguing about how bozo 1 is better than bozo 2.
Cool.
Buddha.

while the occutards cant figure out, best way to make money is to get a job.