more i think about this more i agree ohh mighty brown one. 
if obummer drops his law. requiring me to pay for insurance i cant get, then id support this. i literally cannot buy a policy now. yet am required to have one by '14.

That law will get stuck down in many states, the problem is some states are not going to, and oddly a few right wing judges upheld it yesterday in DC dsitrict court - WTF. They were regan and bush appointees, WTF is all i can say.
That law is there specifically to prevent this idea of mine from taking hold.
However Mitt romney then will not be good for this thought to take hold, as the next president, he is too far into that same line of reasoning. Ron Paul is the only one who's taken a stand against it AFAIK. Oh yea Backmann.

BTW mandating it is a good way to get more people to break the law though.

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Buddha.

course i could refuse to pay the penalty. and ill get my healthcare. ( in jail)

Geeez American healthcare seems too hard and confusing and expensive.

Quote from: aussiegs on November 11, 2011, 06:56:23 AM
Geeez American healthcare seems too hard and confusing and expensive.

Take out the confusion and you lose the expensive part.

BTW is every doctor told you what they get after your insurance is done paying it you will immediately say, OK I'll pay that right now to you and you're get on your phone and kill that insurance. IMHO the biggest losers in this system are the doctors.

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Buddha.

Quote from: aussiegs on November 11, 2011, 06:56:23 AM
Geeez American healthcare seems too hard and confusing and expensive.

hte uni healthcare thing the LW is touting , id go for it, BUT, 1 i cant afford the taxation required to pay for it. which inevitably would rise, because of this govts track record of managing money VERY nicely [/sarcasm] for at least the last 4 decades. if my disability claim doesnt go through i wont make it to the next one. just dont have it in me. only way i can get it thanks to obummer now, is 3 ways, one, become female, ( errm no ive got dangly bits there. ) 2 have kids. ( perhaps but this state wants me to have children when 1 im male, and 2 i cant afford my own upkeep let alone children., become somehting other than white male. told to me point blank. htey gave me a royal WTF when i said isnt that kinda racist? lol. and final choice is to draw disability. which seems to be going to happen. had my hearing nov 3rd. hte injun system buddha, actually does sound good. hell if i could drive there, if it werent for that minor puddle called hte pacific, id go. according to googlemaps i shaZam! you not, i drive to seattle, and walk or canoe across pacific to HI, and hten to japan and into asia lol

We don't pay a lot for our healthcare, mind you at the rate the USA is hemroging money it will take decades before its in a place to run it properly.

thats IF we start spending wisely. i again use the small business model. basically spend no more than you take in. now may i ask your rate of taxation? say, income, sales state/local/federal etc etc overall average or a roundabout ballpark?

Top income rate is 50c in the dollar.
We also pay 10% tax on the sales price of all goods and services. A $110 TV will have $10 tax on it, a $110 house clean will have $10 tax on it.

Every product
Every service - lawn, cleaning, car washing, painting, carpet cleaning, dog washing, etc. 10%. Then those who provide those services pay their regular income tax.

THEN, in addition, we also pay an Extra Medical Tax based as a percentage of our income.

Now our fackwit leaders have introduces a Carbon Tax (bullsh!t). As if that's gonna save anything friggin thing.

If you do not enroll to vote you are fined. If you don't vote after you enroll you are fined.

We export our own gas to 40 countries yet pay $1.50+ per liter ($6 a gallon). Have the highest cost public transport going. We even have to pay a Departure Tax when leaving at the airport WTF!?

But, what we don't have is a country on our border (surrounded by sea) where "illegals" cross and work cheap. We have the same number of politicians as England does with 1/4 the population. We pay some of the highest vehicle registration in the world.

Most people do try to better themselves. And banks are actually quite tough to get money from. For instance, no 18 year old could have a half dozen credit cards with no job.

Michael

That in a way is similar to India, especially that credit part, interestingly no one there has a credit card. Its generally accepted in very few and only very $$$ places.

Income taxes are high, sales taxes though are almost non existent, or were non existent, cos you buy everything without a receipt. It wont work with the US infrastructre we have though, in a way most of the non official labor - house painters, construction workers, handymen, as well as any one who doesn't have an office per se usually asks for cash and never gives you a receipt. Its all un taxed. Sorta like greece where it is a matter of national pride to not pay taxes. In india it is somethign no one is ever aware of.

Anyway medical system is completely different though. Paying for things with cash will make it all cheaper. These thigns have inflation @ higher than national average only due to expansion of credit.

Of course In india we print $ to cover govt expenses. Tax is a small problem, inflation is a bigger problem.

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Buddha.

buddha im beginning to like hte idea of their healthcare system. as long as theres something in place for thsoe who are broke, and cannot afford much, they still can get help. not likea restaurant, where if youre broke = youre hungry. will this happen here. no. obummer will tax me to an early grave before his wonderful mcClusterfuck of a healthcare system goes into effect. the people that praise it have no idea whats inside. i saw what was inside. including the monorail systems . i just wont pay the fine. let them jail me. at least ill get my care that i MUST have this way lol.