Quote from: Flux Maven on December 21, 2011, 09:45:37 AM
I am a full time college student, I also work nearly full time at the USD336 school district... I don't really know what my job title is. I'm just that kid that graduated last year but still comes there every day and fixes computers and stuff.

Your title is "underpaid sucker"

Quote from: Phil B on December 22, 2011, 11:07:11 AM

Quote from: Flux Maven on December 21, 2011, 09:45:37 AM
I am a full time college student, I also work nearly full time at the USD336 school district... I don't really know what my job title is. I'm just that kid that graduated last year but still comes there every day and fixes computers and stuff.

Your title is "underpaid sucker"

Geez, that was kinda' harsh on ole Flux Maven. No? 
Similarly, my job is rather important to the operation here and the pay is good however, If I never fixed another thing as long as I lived, I really don't think anyone here (my employer) would notice.
Just sayin'
I work with several people that are hard workers and incredibly smart, but if they simply quit tomorrow, I doubt the company would even feel a ripple on the pond.

So yeah Flux Maven, my advice is...
Do a good job even if you don't get paid much and nobody really cares if the equipment works or not.
<I know all about it>

Only for those who can grasp it...

Success Is Just One Wish Away www.ankeshkothari.com/success.pdf

Download it then Read it, then read it again, even taking notes, then... Make Your Wish 

Michael

Quote from: Electrojake on December 22, 2011, 05:43:20 PM

Quote from: Phil B on December 22, 2011, 11:07:11 AM

Your title is "underpaid sucker"

Geez, that was kinda' harsh on ole Flux Maven. No? 

wasnt meant to be harsh, exactly... just was indirectly pointing out that with a year or two of paid sysadmin work under the belt, much better wages can usually be had elsewhere.
Then again, there is definately something to be said for having "a job" these days...

Hey Flux Maven...
What say you?

I think the question is; are you comfortable with your current situation?
That's what is important!

I love "my" job cause I get to piss & moan so much. (I simply love to complain). 

I didn't think it was harsh. I took it as the humor it was meant to be. 

Success Is Just One Wish Away www.ankeshkothari.com/success.pdf - I think you'll enjoy it (it's not like anything else you've read). 

Michael

Interesting read. I once worked a job I loved. Heck even did it for free until I got too sick. I guess I would wish for health cause I already knew the other stuff. I'm not a money person and I'm pursuing another career that I hope I can love again. My present job just sucks it out of me I really used to enjoy my job but too many drunk people taking swings and management going south. The first day I was hired I said "I'm here because I want to not because I have to. Once, I stop having fun I'm gone." I kinda hoped this would go for a little longer but I now longer enjoy it while doing some research for my church I found a part-time security assistant at a bible translation company. I've put in the application just waiting for my references to fill out the forms. It starts at what I'm making after three years. Maybe this is my EWE beginning LOL!

Mary

Well I'm an Ex Gynecologist turned Porn Star.OK truthfully I'm a BullSh#($*er. I've Just About Done everything I reckon.Except for being a Gynecologist or Pornstar.Right now I'm nearly an Unemployed Jack of all trades and a Master of None.

Quote from: Toogoofy317 on December 25, 2011, 09:29:56 PM
Interesting read. I once worked a job I loved. Heck even did it for free until I got too sick. I guess I would wish for health cause I already knew the other stuff. I'm not a money person and I'm pursuing another career that I hope I can love again. My present job just sucks it out of me I really used to enjoy my job but too many drunk people taking swings and management going south. The first day I was hired I said "I'm here because I want to not because I have to. Once, I stop having fun I'm gone." I kinda hoped this would go for a little longer but I now longer enjoy it while doing some research for my church I found a part-time security assistant at a bible translation company. I've put in the application just waiting for my references to fill out the forms. It starts at what I'm making after three years. Maybe this is my EWE beginning LOL!

Mary

1.) Most people have no clue about health.
It's the kind of thing that is taken for granted until you lose it.
If your health affects your ability to work (earn an income) it can be very frustrating.
This I do understand.

2.) Crappy Management: I often wonder what the Bosses at my job think about the people that have a good work ethic?
I figure that they think we're nuts... or simply fools!

As I tell the people I work with; "The pay is the same, whether you do a good job or not. Weather you work hard or snooze all day, the pay is the same".

TG317, I hope your new job prospects work out for you.
Working for a good boss (or company) can truly energize a person.
Sounds like you are ready for a positive change! 
-Ej-

Quote from: Electrojake on December 27, 2011, 05:20:09 PM

As I tell the people I work with; "The pay is the same, whether you do a good job or not. Weather you work hard or snooze all day, the pay is the same".

This is true. And I'd like to add a corollary: The company All Access provides Labor for the rig and derig of staging for events. When we were putting together the Castle Stage for Andre Rieu there were Heaps of All Access labor there. I was working with people from ESS (Edwin Shirley Staging) & Stage Co (Stage Co had the contract and hired ESS for certain riggers and All Access for the rest). What I saw was VERY interesting...

First, understand, StageCo is mainly Germans and Belgiums.

The crew we worked with from ESS had certain tasks. When those tasks were completed they found other work to do - simple stuff, stack scaffold, help others with their work, and so on. Cause when you are rigging or derigging a stage, there is ALWAYS something to do.

I'd watch some of the All Access people. For example, in screwing down the floor it required people to use cordless drills set to screw mode, and go a screwing. I watched one girl wonder around the floor area like she was lost, looking down at the floor, with drill in hand. Hardly screwing down anything. Others would be all over the place finding screws to secure after she'd walked by them. She wasn't the only one Slacking Off. There were others. When the crew arrives for the following day you notice, all the slackers are gone. None of them asked back. While those who put in a good effort were asked back.

One of the All Access labor had followed the advice as given in Success Is Just One Wish Away and learned how to speak German and Flemish (what the Belgium stage people speak). Think she was welcomed onto any stage they are involved in? Heck yeah!

My point is, that while you do earn the same whether you work or slack off, it is noticed. And if there is a minor culling at your work, it will be the slackers who will go. I believe the more versatile you are, the less likely you will be given the axe.

There is a difference between wanting to work and wanting a job.

Michael

Um Mister, what were you doing? It seems like you were doing a lot of looking around. How come you weren't busy working

Don't get upset, I am just pulling your leg. Have a good one 

Quote from: ghostrider_23 on December 28, 2011, 07:09:10 AM
Um Mister, what were you doing? It seems like you were doing a lot of looking around. How come you weren't busy working

Don't get upset, I am just pulling your leg. Have a good one 

I get that a lot ghost...

One "project" we were on I needed some help. The Supervisor of the gig got me one of his chippies to be my offsider. After a couple minutes the conversation went,

What am I here for?
Just what you did
And then what?
Nothing. We have a spell.
We don't have to look busy?
Nope
Do we give others a hand?
Nope, we go sit down over there and have a cuppa and wait

I could see he looked a little nervous when the Supervisor came over. Cause, as a chippie, there is no "doing nothing". But the Supervisor joined us in a cuppa and the chippie could now see very little is expected of us and noone gets upset when we are doing nothing and they understand we only do our job and help noone else

At the end of the day the chippie thanked me for asking for an offsider and quizzed me on how to get into my line of work. A question I get a lot. I answer, but trying something new is all too much hard work (and they must think of it as too much risk to change professions) so they invariably stick to what they are already doing and hating.

Don't get me wrong. Some days we are flat out busy enough to break a sweat and at the end of the day we are dirty and tired. Others, slack. When doing staging work we can only work as fast as the climbing riggers. So I get to see a Lot of who is hooking in, who isn't, etc. Here's a video from that project http://youtu.be/twFHCAl86ys (as you can see, I have ample time to walk around while work is going on, but noone cares I am doing nothing.)

Michael

Quote from: Electrojake on December 27, 2011, 05:20:09 PM

Quote from: Toogoofy317 on December 25, 2011, 09:29:56 PM
Interesting read. I once worked a job I loved. Heck even did it for free until I got too sick. I guess I would wish for health cause I already knew the other stuff. I'm not a money person and I'm pursuing another career that I hope I can love again. My present job just sucks it out of me I really used to enjoy my job but too many drunk people taking swings and management going south. The first day I was hired I said "I'm here because I want to not because I have to. Once, I stop having fun I'm gone." I kinda hoped this would go for a little longer but I now longer enjoy it while doing some research for my church I found a part-time security assistant at a bible translation company. I've put in the application just waiting for my references to fill out the forms. It starts at what I'm making after three years. Maybe this is my EWE beginning LOL!

Mary

1.) Most people have no clue about health.
It's the kind of thing that is taken for granted until you lose it.
If your health affects your ability to work (earn an income) it can be very frustrating.
This I do understand.

-Ej-

thjis is what im dealing wiht at this moment. and its about pushed me over the edge literally