http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPNs3v4m7TA&feature=g-vrec&context=G20ae807RVAAAAAAAABA

Surprising to me.  They have done similar tests with Corvette vs. GSXR and Vette wins on the twisty track.

Quote from: Paulcet on January 30, 2012, 06:44:52 AM
Surprising to me.  They have done similar tests with Corvette vs. GSXR and Vette wins on the twisty track.

Must have been an average squid riding, rather than someone who knew what they were doing 

note that a standard corvette zr06 has quarter mile times of 11.5x
a gsxr 600 can do it in about 11 flat.

There's also a fun video of a french guy on a yz450 supermoto racing someone in a subaru wrx, I'd post the video but I'm at work, I'll try to find it later.

Overall, I'm not too impressed with a $100k sportscar that might be able to beat me on an old sportbike I bought on craigslist for $3000, haha.

What would be the result if a normal bloke, with no track day experience would drive a normal car against a normal bike. Lets say the car would be double the price of the bike.

Another superbike vs. supercar: Ducati 1198SP v Mercedes SLS AMG

Quote from: pertt-UP- on January 30, 2012, 01:48:46 PM
What would be the result if a normal bloke, with no track day experience would drive a normal car against a normal bike. Lets say the car would be double the price of the bike.

make it interesting, call it quadruple the price of the bike.

take you, your gs500, a mate, and his car, down to a local drag strip. For the cost of about $20 each, you could answer this question

More fun than the track

http://youtu.be/Ej9MkCSg59w

Check this out for a laugh - harley rat bike owning a fireblade - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myGMlgk3PuI


I am sure it would be a different story after a few hundred meters though.

WaitWHUT?? WTH is wrong with this picture?!?!?!?

Is the superbike, just ludicrously geared?
Or is the rider incompetant?  or what?
(well, I guess it also helps that that 'custom harley' probably weighs all of 200lbs too   BELT drive.. and
KICK start? !! )



Gotta give props to the old guy on the harley though.. He obviously knows what he is doing, mechanically and otherwise.
And I love his quiet soft-spoken pre-race talk.

'Cause he's an "optimist"

side note.. WTH.. forum auto-substitutes "kick.start" (no dot) to be "You win!"
.... ....   .....

PPS: the old coot, Hildo,  has a rather cool website:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.twolefthands.nl/&ei=wZInT5z5C6Xy2QWji9DqAg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCMQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dtwolefthands%2Bhildo%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1128%26bih%3D716%26prmd%3Dimvns

Quote from: Phil B on January 30, 2012, 11:14:46 PM
WaitWHUT?? WTH is wrong with this picture?!?!?!?

Is the superbike, just ludicrously geared?
Or is the rider incompetant?  or what?
(well, I guess it also helps that that 'custom harley' probably weighs all of 200lbs too   BELT drive.. and
KICK start? !! )



Gotta give props to the old guy on the harley though.. He obviously knows what he is doing, mechanically and otherwise.
And I love his quiet soft-spoken pre-race talk.

'Cause he's an "optimist"

side note.. WTH.. forum auto-substitutes "kick.start" (no dot) to be "You win!"
.... ....   .....

haha, I know I've typed kick start once or twice on this forum, I wonder if that one slipped by.

That is pretty nuts, but doesn't horribly surprise me. That street was about 100 foot long and considering the harley's wheelbase is about 2-3 foot longer, the center of balance is a lot lower, and all of the bikes power is low end, it's geared way lower, he can get a pretty good jump off the line if he just dumps the clutch, which is what I assume happens when you ride a motorcycle in leather mittens! The honda probably could've beat him with the right rider, it didn't even sound like he was lifting the RPMs up to where the power was before he'd start moving, so who knows. That's basically what it was like riding the Buell, you barely needed any throttle and you could beat any normal sportbike off the line, but once you hit the top of first gear and had to let off the gas for an instant to shift, any other sportbike would shoot past you and you'd never catch up.

Quote from: Phil B on January 30, 2012, 11:00:00 AM

Quote from: Paulcet on January 30, 2012, 06:44:52 AM
Surprising to me.  They have done similar tests with Corvette vs. GSXR and Vette wins on the twisty track.

Must have been an average squid riding, rather than someone who knew what they were doing 

note that a standard corvette zr06 has quarter mile times of 11.5x
a gsxr 600 can do it in about 11 flat.

Ok, I'm losing it.  I may be mixing two articles.  I remember something about the car having the advantage in the corners.  I also remember that the test rider/driver was Kevin Schwantz.  Anyway, the 2002 article with Schwantz had the GSXR beating the Vette.

And at the drag strip:  Outside of driver/rider skill, it's just math>>  Power to weight ratio.

Quote from: Paulcet on February 03, 2012, 07:55:38 PM


And at the drag strip:  Outside of driver/rider skill, it's just math>>  Power to weight ratio.

don't forget tire contact patches/traction(science)

Quote from: Phil B on January 30, 2012, 01:53:03 PM

Quote from: pertt-UP- on January 30, 2012, 01:48:46 PM
What would be the result if a normal bloke, with no track day experience would drive a normal car against a normal bike. Lets say the car would be double the price of the bike.

make it interesting, call it quadruple the price of the bike.

take you, your gs500, a mate, and his car, down to a local drag strip. For the cost of about $20 each, you could answer this question

well.. with a 2011 corolla VS my stock GS500. The GS500 has the corolla by the neck, till higher end. but my bike was also not 100% at the time either.

PS: don't ask me how I know.

Quote from: J_Walker on February 05, 2012, 07:42:20 PM
well.. with a 2011 corolla VS my stock GS500. The GS500 has the corolla by the neck, till higher end. but my bike was also not 100% at the time either.

PS: don't ask me how I know.

You got beat by a Corolla???    Shame on you.

Quote from: Twisted on February 05, 2012, 10:55:43 PM

You got beat by a Corolla???    Shame on you.

Toyota makes some good stuff! When I stomp on my gas on the highway in my Tacoma it starts pulling faster than I ever remember my GS accelerating haha

My mazda CX-7 is surprisingly good at midrange acceleration... but that's 'cause it comes standard with a turbo

Nothing wrong with getting beaten by pos cars. The shame is announcing it to the world.

Michael

Quote from: mister on February 06, 2012, 07:10:32 PM
Nothing wrong with getting beaten by pos cars. The shame is announcing it to the world.

Michael

or some weird australian  . but used to be the only thing out there that had the same power to weight ratio of a litrebike was an f1 car. but usually the litre bike could get moving quicker.

Quote from: Twisted on January 30, 2012, 11:05:39 PM
Check this out for a laugh - harley rat bike owning a fireblade - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myGMlgk3PuI


I am sure it would be a different story after a few hundred meters though.

No surprise here.  Harleys have all that torque so off the line they're monsters.  Trouble is after fourth gear everything changes.  The Jap bike comes to life and the Harley runs out of breath.  1/8 mile, Harley wins. 1/4 mile, Honda wins.  I would think even our humble GS will catch the Harley at the 1/4 mile traps.

Quote from: bill14224 on February 23, 2012, 01:00:05 PM

Quote from: Twisted on January 30, 2012, 11:05:39 PM
Check this out for a laugh - harley rat bike owning a fireblade - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myGMlgk3PuI


I am sure it would be a different story after a few hundred meters though.

No surprise here.  Harleys have all that torque so off the line they're monsters.  Trouble is after fourth gear everything changes.  The Jap bike comes to life and the Harley runs out of breath.  1/8 mile, Harley wins. 1/4 mile, Honda wins.  I would think even our humble GS will catch the Harley at the 1/4 mile traps.

True. Even if you are not on the 1/4 mile you should be able to drive around the outside of the Harley of the next bend anyways