Woooo Aussie Aussie Aussie 

That is until either China buys/owns them all or they invade and take by force 

Quote from: knowles on March 03, 2012, 11:13:09 PM
Having worked at a gas station while i was going to college the first time (1st time law enforcement, 2nd Millwright) usually the tanks that they put fuel in are different sizes, they don't just have a 5,000 gallon tank for each  type of fuel: reg, prem, plus and diesel. (at least most don't) it will vary by the store some what because at least in new stores they will look at the area and see what the demand will be. also prem 91 at least in Minnesota is the most likely to not have ethanol in it or the least percent in it. that's the only reason i use it.

I'd be interested if you could provide some information about the ethanol levels in various grades of gassoline. I always assumed ethanol levels would be highest in 91, since ethanol is an octane enhancer... But I don't really have any solid information to back that up.

I'm pretty skeptical that 91 is a better mix than 87... The regular, plus, premium thing seems pretty marketing oriented, and I don't see that the fuel companies have reason to use better fuel in 91, especially when there are a lot of ways to boost octane that don't actually improve the quality of the fuel (e.g. adding more ethanol.)

Now, to be fair, It used to be that 91 often had a better detergent package, but  these days the gas stations are marketing the detergent in all their grades of fuel.

Quote from: Kijona on March 03, 2012, 11:33:04 AM
Theoretically speaking, you could get better gas mileage with higher octane IF it enhanced the performance of the engine.

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Of course, all of the above is just speculation and there are other factors to consider. Like the fact that better octane fuel does not equate to more power like so many people believe.

Octane is simply the pre-ignition and detonation resistance of the fuel. It doesn't speak at all to the quality of the fuel it's self. Without specific information relating to the quality of a particular fuel, I see no reason to expect that high octane fuel will perform better in an engine not tuned for it (E.g. our GS500)

Now, in the race world, there are plenty of fuels that are marketed based on their quality; often they won't overtly print the octane rating of the fuel on the can (though they will print it in their spec sheets.)

See http://www.vpracingfuels.com/motoroadracing.html for an example of fuel sold based on it's quality rather than it's octane.


Of course, what you say is absolutely true for modern high performance engines with knock sensors. A lot of time, the engine is tuned for high octane fuel, and then has a sensor listening for signs of pre-ignition that will de-tune the vehicle for lower octane gas (My BMW is that way.)

On the pump it self there was a sticker that has ethonal %, on non-oxy (ususally prem or 91 in mn) gas doesnt have a sicker that says that has ethenal in it where the ones that do will have a sticker somewhere. this is how the station worked that i worked at.

I usually run my GS on 116 octane. It adds like 50hp. I also use diamond plated oil filters and oil extracted from a rare 234 billion year old meteorite. So on a street tune I usually make around 1200hp on the dyno. (thats with the nitrous)   

QuoteI usually run my GS on 116 octane. It adds like 50hp. I also use diamond plated oil filters and oil extracted from a rare 234 billion year old meteorite. So on a street tune I usually make around 1200hp on the dyno. (thats with the nitrous)

psht, is that it? I think you got a carb problem or need to check your valves or sumthin.

Yea you should add a fluxcapasitor. That's will give you like another 600 horses on that bad boy.


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Quote from: kyleGS500 on March 05, 2012, 04:47:09 PM
Yea you should add a fluxcapasitor. That's will give you like another 600 horses on that bad boy.

And fill the tank with Jet-A.  Last I saw, Jet-A is going for cheaper than what's at the gas stations anyway...

^^ I do kinda want a diesel bike.... what the hell. let 'er rip.



this thread has taken an awesome turn.

I wish this was the largest issue i had with my bike 

Well Funderb,  How about one that'll run Diesel, Kerosene, or Jet-A?

Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFGy-A68_vY

Specs:
http://marineturbine.com/motorcycles.asp

Personally, I think this one might be a little steep for my budget...but since we're talking fuel here....anyone know the octane rating of Jet fuel?  Do you think it has Ethanol in it?

I just run a Mr. Fusion on my bike. Don't have to worry about octane rating and garbage is cheaper than fuel anyway

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QuotePersonally, I think this one might be a little steep for my budget...

Oh. My. God.
Want.

Quotebut since we're talking fuel here....anyone know the octane rating of Jet fuel?  Do you think it has Ethanol in it?

Hahaha, well, how much can you compress diesel? I imagine its through the roof. I hope there's no ethanol in it, I have heard very bad things involving gasoline and diesel injection pumps... You see, the diesel is the lubrication for the pump, and the pump eviscerates itself when the non-lubing devil fuel we call regular gets in...

Today I did a half fill of e85 and vpower, gave me 40hp I rekkon took a while for the black sooty crap to clear out the pipes :p

i have always been a long fan of low octane in air cooled motors, however while i was looking over my bike(94 gs-e) i found a spec sticker under the seat that states recommended fuel is 91 RON...?

background with my bike, i commute and i have only owned this bike about a week and i have filled up twice at a rate of 2.1 gals per 100 miles each fill up, thats with 87 octane.

I will run this tank down and start using 91, i will report back after a couple hundred miles...

Quote from: daski-emt on March 09, 2012, 06:15:37 PM
i have always been a long fan of low octane in air cooled motors, however while i was looking over my bike(94 gs-e) i found a spec sticker under the seat that states recommended fuel is 91 RON...?

If you are in the USA or Canada, our pumps' octanes are listed in anti-knock index (usually written on the pump as (R+M/2) method) which is about 4 points lower than the research octane number (RON) that the rest of the world uses.  So 91 RON would be equivalent to 87 octane in the USA and Canada.

-Jessie

Quote from: BaltimoreGS on March 09, 2012, 06:45:54 PM

Quote from: daski-emt on March 09, 2012, 06:15:37 PM
i have always been a long fan of low octane in air cooled motors, however while i was looking over my bike(94 gs-e) i found a spec sticker under the seat that states recommended fuel is 91 RON...?

If you are in the USA or Canada, our pumps' octanes are listed in anti-knock index (usually written on the pump as (R+M/2) method) which is about 4 points lower than the research octane number (RON) that the rest of the world uses.  So 91 RON would be equivalent to 87 octane in the USA and Canada.

ah, i see.....thanks

Quote from: J_Walker on March 01, 2012, 03:30:09 PM
Only problem with gas now days, is that the ethanol thats in it... Good lord. We pay almost $4.00 a gallon yet its alright to them to put 15%+ ethanol in our gas... And the ethanol destroys engines over time.

Not to start anything. but did you know almost 80% of our gas that we use in the states actually comes from THE STATES. the 20% is imported.. so what does that tell you? That the "war in the middle east" is a bunch of BS on gas prices.. And it's just giving them a reason to raise the prices. Just my 2 cents

This x100. The reason my bike was so screwed up when I bought it was because of ethanol. After cleaning out virtually everything (that stuff gets everywhere) my bike runs like it's new. I still haven't installed a fuel filter and whereas most people I've talked to think the fuel here is fairly clean compared to where my bike originally came from I have my doubts. Gas companies would sell us water if they could convince us it was gas.