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Retarded. Does this word offend you?

Started by john, February 28, 2012, 01:25:00 PM

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In England...
F-g= cigarette
Faggot = meatball made with minced pork including the pigs liver (Yesterday's lunch) or Bundle of wood for kindling a fire.

Getting back to "tard" I think we probably all agree that context and company are what counts.

A little true story
A few years back I used to play in a skittles team (NINE pins, not ten and much smaller ball played outdoors in south of England but indoors in some other places usually with copious quantities of beer involved) One of our best players, let's call him Dave was also excellent at several other games requiring ball-hand-eye coordination. He was not the brightest spark but a nice guy, he worked as a cleaner and was proud of it, his father would describe him as "a bit slow" until one day a medical professional corrected him, "Dave is a person with learning difficulties" - Did this make Dave feel any better? Did this achieve anything for anybody? somehow I doubt it.

A couple of weeks ago I went to see a show by Reginald D Hunter a black American stand-up comedian who has been based in UK for about 15 years. he opened the act by apologising for his persistent use of the word "Homeboyus Africanus" He said "It don't offend me but I know it offends middle-class white people"

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Quote from: john on February 28, 2012, 08:13:02 PM
No.  I don't think i'll remove this post.  I am asking if it actually offends people.  If somebody said "yes, it does offend me." I can deal with it.  I actually wanted to simply know the general consensus.  Looks like 6 or 7 no's, and two yes so far.

You people going off on a political rant need to drink a beer and chill out  :icon_mrgreen: 

I DON"T want this to be a flame fest.  And I did update ohgood's title.  Good suggestion.

Hey john, I'm using tapatalk ( mobile browsing is too slow) and can't see my title to the my original post. Would you please pm me what it was, and take my general apology if I offended folks with it ?

Thanks


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john

Ohgood, your title is: Timing is Retarded
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Tombstones81

hahahaha funny thread.  :thumb:

Yes I fully agree, people are too stupid nowadays, easily offended, and cant comprehend the main thing that comes out of peoples mouths.
Which would be, the person that uses a word, its defined by how they mean it to be.
NOT how ignorant morons make it out to be themselves by overhearing or being called it.

had a HUGE problem with that with my ex.
would Constantly take what I say and twist it into her own definition instead of asking what I meant if she was confused.
they're My words, I will use and define them as I dang well please  :thumb:

and with that being said... haha
I use that word often.
Which is only when I am calling someone "stupid" basically. haha
Its My brain, My mouth.
I am not responsible for others ignorance.  :thumb:

reminds me of an old female coworker that was WAYYY too easily offended by a few words.
one I used often hahaha "pu$$y"
which I would only use it as another means of calling someone a coward, etc etc...
yet anytime she overheard it. IT would hit the fan and she would snap.
she actually got my supervisor to lecture me for like 20 friggin mins one night!

but yes ppl need to chill the heck out nowadays.

kk rant off.
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Quote from: Tombstones81 on March 05, 2012, 11:45:14 AM

but yes ppl need to chill the heck out nowadays.


The last several posts were interesting.
It's good to see some of these stories & opinions come out.
Sure it takes a bit longer to read posts that are longer than 2 sentences but that's where the meat of the story lies.

Even better, we haven't gotten pushed over to the Tard Farm yet!  :thumb:
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Quote from: Tombstones81 on March 05, 2012, 11:45:14 AM
hahahaha funny thread.  :thumb:

Yes I fully agree, people are too stupid nowadays, easily offended, and cant comprehend the main thing that comes out of peoples mouths.
Which would be, the person that uses a word, its defined by how they mean it to be.
NOT how ignorant morons make it out to be themselves by overhearing or being called it.

had a HUGE problem with that with my ex.
would Constantly take what I say and twist it into her own definition instead of asking what I meant if she was confused.
they're My words, I will use and define them as I dang well please  :thumb:

and with that being said... haha
I use that word often.
Which is only when I am calling someone "stupid" basically. haha
Its My brain, My mouth.
I am not responsible for others ignorance.  :thumb:

reminds me of an old female coworker that was WAYYY too easily offended by a few words.
one I used often hahaha "pu$$y"
which I would only use it as another means of calling someone a coward, etc etc...
yet anytime she overheard it. IT would hit the fan and she would snap.
she actually got my supervisor to lecture me for like 20 friggin mins one night!

but yes ppl need to chill the heck out nowadays.

kk rant off.
worked all night and about to fall over, so I hope this makes sense hahaha
or else im just being retarded hahahaha  :icon_mrgreen:
agreed. ive had women get offended EASILY. yet they were fine with calling a guy out on the same context, and its perfectly fine. which i always said, hey, whats good for the goose, is good for teh gander Eh?" or sounds a lil like the pot calling the kettle black.
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#66
It's all part of the plan.  If the powers that be can control language they can control us.  It's all about central control of everything.  Liberty is under full assault.

Is the word retarded offensive to me?  By itself, no.  I reserve my decision as to whether something is offensive or not by the message, not the words chosen to convey that message.
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Quote from: john on March 05, 2012, 09:06:36 AM
Ohgood, your title is: Timing is Retarded
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agreed bill. the word itself isnt offensive. it is how it is used. or the tone of ones voice when using it, i couldget highly angry if it were used upon someone who well, was truly retarded. or disabled or what the definition has been accepted as pc. midgets are no longer midgets. theyre vertically challenged. obese people are no longer obese. theyre horizontally challenged.  WTF  :cookoo:
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Twisted

I thought midgets were Shetland people?


yamahonkawazuki

Quote from: Twisted on March 13, 2012, 04:47:05 AM
I thought midgets were Shetland people?
LMFAO. Hmmm what would an obese shetland person be then?
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Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on March 13, 2012, 07:27:33 PM
LMFAO. Hmmm what would an obese shetland person be then? [/quote]

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Toogoofy317

Was watching a news bit today about a girl who has Tourettes syndrome (turns out she was nominated for a grammy for her song) and she was explaining how it hurt her when people would call her "retarded" and that the names was enough that if wasn't for her faith she would have killed herself because the words hurt so bad as a teenager! She was very bright but when she got stressed out had nervous tics and hand movements. Kinda why I think it is offensive.

I remember when abused as a kid I'd rather much had the physical abuse over the verbal abuse. Bruises go away but the hurtful things he said never went away.

Mary
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adidasguy

Do we know why people with Tourettes syndrome only shout profanity? If a word is profane, it is a learned thing based on your language and culture.

We never hear them yell out "Your beautiful", "Happy", "Pretty".

What wires it to the language part of the brain that stores profanity?

yamahonkawazuki

Quote from: Toogoofy317 on March 20, 2012, 10:30:04 PM
Was watching a news bit today about a girl who has Tourettes syndrome (turns out she was nominated for a grammy for her song) and she was explaining how it hurt her when people would call her "retarded" and that the names was enough that if wasn't for her faith she would have killed herself because the words hurt so bad as a teenager! She was very bright but when she got stressed out had nervous tics and hand movements. Kinda why I think it is offensive.

I remember when abused as a kid I'd rather much had the physical abuse over the verbal abuse. Bruises go away but the hurtful things he said never went away.

Mary
i know a guy like this. a best friend of mine. he nicknamed himself twitch. hes an OTR truckdriver. and does well. when he gets stressed out his twiches will get a bit more intense. occasionally drops some Fbombs. not quiet ones. but rather loud. the word retarded i cannot find a good use for it. i had in hte past worked as a caregiver for a group of young guys all wiht mental issues. mainly they were, well retarded. but they were some of the sweetest people ive ever known. they were said when my health deteriorated and i had to go. ( a group home) but i promised id visit, and i do. we will sit and play cards, or board games, or hell even a ps3 or something.
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SAFE-T

#75
Again, there is a world of difference between using a word to describe someone who has a deficiency, and using it to imply they are not worthy of the respect you would normally pay to another human being. And we all know the difference when we hear it.

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Yeah, Mister try telling that to a 12 year old kid who's father constantly told them that they are either stupid or retarded, they will never grow up to be anything worth living, they are a waste upon the earth. No matter how "strong" you are you begin to believe it when you hear it over and over and over. Yeah, almost 20 years later I "know" those words are not an accurate representation of me but when someone uses the word to me my PTSD kicks in and all the "knowing" in the world doesn't help. It has taken years of help to get where I can sleep at night (he loved sleep deprivation as a form of punishment for me not getting straight A's) but when the stress levels are up and I start to make mistakes from the fatigue the words come right back. For example I accidentally sent my professor a rough draft of my midterm term paper that didn't get overwritten and got an F on it. I didn't sleep the whole night and all I could think about was how my father was right I was too dumb to be doing this. It took quite a few friends telling me otherwise and my professor telling me it was an honest mistake to let it go.

I know I'm sharing WTMI on the net but I don't care anymore you wanna know why it may offend some so here is a reason from my heart.
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Quote from: Toogoofy317 on March 24, 2012, 06:00:38 PM
Yeah, Mister try telling that to a 12 year old kid who's father constantly told them that they are either stupid or retarded, they will never grow up to be anything worth living, they are a waste upon the earth. No matter how "strong" you are you begin to believe it when you hear it over and over and over. Yeah, almost 20 years later I "know" those words are not an accurate representation of me but when someone uses the word to me my PTSD kicks in and all the "knowing" in the world doesn't help. It has taken years of help to get where I can sleep at night (he loved sleep deprivation as a form of punishment for me not getting straight A's) but when the stress levels are up and I start to make mistakes from the fatigue the words come right back. For example I accidentally sent my professor a rough draft of my midterm term paper that didn't get overwritten and got an F on it. I didn't sleep the whole night and all I could think about was how my father was right I was too dumb to be doing this. It took quite a few friends telling me otherwise and my professor telling me it was an honest mistake to let it go.

I know I'm sharing WTMI on the net but I don't care anymore you wanna know why it may offend some so here is a reason from my heart.
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bombadillo

I use the word so frequently its just a part of my vocabulary.  Probably really juvenile, but I don't really care so whats the difference.
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