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Started by mark61, April 08, 2012, 07:26:00 PM

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Quote from: Twisted on April 10, 2012, 05:41:07 AM
Quote from: mark61 on April 08, 2012, 11:44:43 PM
Hi Michael,
I am on the Sunshine coast near Mt Coolum,

Welcome Mark. I lived in Coolum myself for 15 years. Very nice place. I am guessing you purchased the bike from Sunstate Motorcycles at Maroochydore? That is where my GS originated from too. Do as mister said and don't let them tell you it is normal. It looks like it was either sitting on the floor or outside the yard for a while. Even salt air takes awhile to rust stuff that bad. Be prepared for it to get worse as the salt air will make stuff corrode. Try the lanolin or fish oil trick. Do you keep it garaged? If not buy a cover for it.

not to hijack this thread, but would a motorcycle cover (bought from walmart - $20) provide protection against rust issues if kept outside? even under an awning? i live in georgia, where it gets hot an humid, but other than that, if i keep it out of the rain, should i be ok? im hoping to move to a place with a garage this summer...

Twisted

It would be better than keeping it uncovered. I do not know the area where you live but the OP of this thread lives by the ocean and sea spray travels for kilometres. It will not stop rust but will help prevent it by stopping most of the spray landing and sitting on the bike. I keep my bikes covered even though they are under cover as they still get dust on them. Make sure the cover is water resistant and you will help protect your bike from the elements.

noworries

Mark, unacceptable on a newly delivered Suzuki motorcycle. And is that rust on your chain as well? Was this bike in water? Off to Suzuki HO, now!

Mauricio

Quote from: noworries on April 10, 2012, 07:14:44 AM
Mark, unacceptable on a newly delivered Suzuki motorcycle. And is that rust on your chain as well? Was this bike in water?

Hmmm... that much rust on a new bike does make you wonder, doesn't it?
"Nice and relaxed.
Getting busy in town, but you're cool baby.
360 aware, you don't know where or when
the s***'s gonna come down,
but YOU ARE PREPARED."

Big Rich

A cover on a bike that is ridden frequently is a good thing. If somebody stores a bike for years with a cover on it, moisture builds up under the cover and rusts the entire bike.
83 GR650 (riding / rolling project)

It's opener there in the wide open air...

mark61

 Try the lanolin or fish oil trick. Do you keep it garaged? If not buy a cover for it.

Advice I will definately follow :) And yes I keep it in the garage when at home, even undercover at work.
Yep Sunstate.

Thanks for everyones input, I have contacted The dealer, the sales Manger is away but will call me to discuss the issues next week. I have also sent an email with pictures to Suzuki HO as yet no reply.
It is unacceptable isnt it, I was so excited last week too. I still like the GS though.

mark61

Quote from: Twisted on April 10, 2012, 05:41:07 AM
Quote from: mark61 on April 08, 2012, 11:44:43 PM
Hi Michael,
I am on the Sunshine coast near Mt Coolum,

Welcome Mark. I lived in Coolum myself for 15 years. Very nice place. I am guessing you purchased the bike from Sunstate Motorcycles at Maroochydore? 

Great place to live Twisted, but yeah ya have to watch the salt eh And Yep Sunstate.... they were great until I found this rubbish :(

Twisted

Keep us posted on how you go.

noworries

Looking at that price on that company's site, looks like you got a great deal.  You are dinkum about the bike just being bought new????? Don't like the pictures on yr album.....that bike has problems.....look at the state of the ally components, let alone the rust on the frame and the fork tubes......physically, it's 2 years old......where has it been in it's life.....both that seller's outlets are close to the sea.....both towns have had flooding issues too in recent years......don't hang around waiting on this one...get some independent advice and get onto Suzi HO quick smart. Keep everyone posted, eh?


noworries

Been told today by a mechanic to pull the tool-kit roll out from under the seat. Any rust on the tools? If so, he says it is a good sign - with other rust evidence - that a vehicle/bike has been under water or water damaged. Bodgers usually forget to clean the tool-kit.

mark61

I will have a look at the kit, I doubt it has been dipped as its a brand new bike.

The Buddha

Quote from: mark61 on April 11, 2012, 02:30:48 AM
Try the lanolin or fish oil trick. Do you keep it garaged? If not buy a cover for it.


And what is the lanolin or fish oil trick ?
Cool.
Buddha.
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Twisted

Buy fish oil in an aerosol can and drown your frame in it.

mister

Quote from: The Buddha on April 13, 2012, 07:04:27 PM
Quote from: mark61 on April 11, 2012, 02:30:48 AM
Try the lanolin or fish oil trick. Do you keep it garaged? If not buy a cover for it.


And what is the lanolin or fish oil trick ?
Cool.
Buddha.

Spray Lanolin on any exposed metal or metal with rust spots on it. It creates a sticky waterproof air seal so no more air/moisture can get in to continue rusting it out.

I'd say with the OP, some of the rust spots were caused by an overzealous detailer using a high pressure water cleaner which stripped some of the paint and left exposed metal. While the rear wheel damage was probably done during getting the bike out of the metal frame crate and/or putting the rest of it together.

I've seen brand new, showroom bikes, with dents in the tank. When questioning the salemen they say, "the tank will be replaced upon sale". Which means, you either get a totally new bike or they get a replacement tank sent up so they can finally be rid of this bike, but they'll only do it After they have the bike sold so they know it is not costing them money only to sit on the floor unsold.

Lanolin has kept the area around side stand center stand free of rust.  :thumb:

Michael
GS Picture Game - Lists of Completed Challenges & Current Challenge http://tinyurl.com/GS500PictureGame and http://tinyurl.com/GS500PictureGameList2

GS500 Round Aust Relay http://tinyurl.com/GS500RoundAustRelay

noworries

Mark, have u spoken with Suzuki, Melbourne, yet? They are aware of this thread. Suzuki Aus deliver a great product and they aren't  likely to be too happy with seeing the state of your "new" bike, as it seems to have been delivered. The GS500 mighn't be the most expensive bike in the Suzuki range but it's often the one that get us on the path to long-term Suzuki ownership.

Bollox to lanolin/fish oil, that's useful but for a ridden/banged around unit.  Wouldn't be messing with this problem atall by yourself. What you need is urgent investigation/rectification by Suzuki technical of the rust shown in the photos you have posted. Also you might like to think about what corrosion may be going on inside the frame.

mister

Quote from: noworries on April 14, 2012, 03:07:19 AM
Mark, have u spoken with Suzuki, Melbourne, yet? They are aware of this thread. Suzuki Aus deliver a great product and they aren't  likely to be too happy with seeing the state of your "new" bike, as it seems to have been delivered. The GS500 mighn't be the most expensive bike in the Suzuki range but it's often the one that get us on the path to long-term Suzuki ownership.

Bollox to lanolin/fish oil, that's useful but for a ridden/banged around unit.  Wouldn't be messing with this problem atall by yourself. What you need is urgent investigation/rectification by Suzuki technical of the rust shown in the photos you have posted. Also you might like to think about what corrosion may be going on inside the frame.

He has sent the pics to both head office - whom I also gave him the number for - and the local dealer. He's onto it  :thumb:

Michael
GS Picture Game - Lists of Completed Challenges & Current Challenge http://tinyurl.com/GS500PictureGame and http://tinyurl.com/GS500PictureGameList2

GS500 Round Aust Relay http://tinyurl.com/GS500RoundAustRelay

mark61

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Quote from: mister on April 14, 2012, 12:37:31 PM
Quote from: noworries on April 14, 2012, 03:07:19 AM
Mark, have u spoken with Suzuki, Melbourne, yet? They are aware of this thread.

Also you might like to think about what corrosion may be going on inside the frame.

He has sent the pics to both head office - whom I also gave him the number for - and the local dealer. He's onto it  :thumb:

Michael


I have emailed the pictures to Suzuki HO and the Sales Manager at the dealer, who is away until tommorrow. I would first like to see what response I get from the dealer to see if I need to action it further. I have looked through the Fairtrading Qld site and have downloaded some info from there. I havent spoken with Suzuki Aust just email at this stage, I have the number from Michael (thank you) if I need to contact them.
I have had a closer look at photos taken the day I brought the bike home and I can now see the rust spots on some of those too :(
I havent ridden it much due to this problem :( as NO WORRIES said I too am worried about corrosion Inside the frame too.
I appreciate everyones comments and support, I am not a complainer by nature so the support helps me to moving on this.
To Suzuki, Lets fix this asap, peacefully and calmly. I have always liked Suzuki's and wouldnt want that to change in any way.
Cheers Mark

jacob_ns

My 1994 doesn't even look that bad.
1994 GS500E w/ ~43,000 kms as of July 2012

mark61

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Link to the pics.

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