Ordered the speed bleeders this morning & lubed the lever itself last night. So far so good.

I'm guessing I can get the hose to drain the fluid @ Advance Auto Parts or wherever I pick up my new fluid?

Quote from: KnuckleBallz on April 19, 2012, 07:32:44 AM
Ordered the speed bleeders this morning & lubed the lever itself last night. So far so good.

I'm guessing I can get the hose to drain the fluid @ Advance Auto Parts or wherever I pick up my new fluid?

The best stuff I've found is soft vinyl aquarium tubing. 1/4" I.D. IIRC. It is a pain to fit on without heating but that's GOOD, that means it won't leak air.

Quote from: Kijona on April 19, 2012, 09:09:35 PM

Quote from: KnuckleBallz on April 19, 2012, 07:32:44 AM
Ordered the speed bleeders this morning & lubed the lever itself last night. So far so good.

I'm guessing I can get the hose to drain the fluid @ Advance Auto Parts or wherever I pick up my new fluid?

The best stuff I've found is soft vinyl aquarium tubing. 1/4" I.D. IIRC. It is a pain to fit on without heating but that's GOOD, that means it won't leak air.

OK good tip- I'm thinking the bleeders that AdidasGuy recommended will help me skirt the air issue, but tight=no spill so that's good too.

Quote from: KnuckleBallz on April 20, 2012, 06:01:12 AM

Quote from: Kijona on April 19, 2012, 09:09:35 PM

Quote from: KnuckleBallz on April 19, 2012, 07:32:44 AM
Ordered the speed bleeders this morning & lubed the lever itself last night. So far so good.

I'm guessing I can get the hose to drain the fluid @ Advance Auto Parts or wherever I pick up my new fluid?

The best stuff I've found is soft vinyl aquarium tubing. 1/4" I.D. IIRC. It is a pain to fit on without heating but that's GOOD, that means it won't leak air.

OK good tip- I'm thinking the bleeders that AdidasGuy recommended will help me skirt the air issue, but tight=no spill so that's good too.

Perhaps. However, please keep in mind you'll still need to apply grease around the fitting's threads (on the caliper) to avoid air being sucked in that way.

Not trying to argue, but it seems they cover that? http://kirbysbrakebleeders.ecrater.com/about.php

Never had heard of speed bleeders until adidas mentioned them. Did some research and feel they would be a great addition to my 1 man shop!

Which size bleeder did you all order?

Thread pitch is M7x1, so the SB7100 will fit, but it will look funny due to the extra length. The SB7100S is a shorter version that should look at home on the GS. I'm adding them to my list of things to get for my bike when I replace the lines.

Wow, I thought you were talking about something completely different.

I had some one-way bleeder things that just attached to the end of a tube and used the stock nipples to bleed. You just squeezed and squeezed and it would keep coming out but not go back in. This is what I thought you were talking about. I didn't know they were actually replacement nipples and, in all honesty, it seems a little excessive when something similar can be used without having to modify the bike in any way.

I don't mean to sound paranoid or anything but I'd be very wary of that sort of thing - after all, the brakes on a motorcycle are all that is keeping us from being a big red splatter on the side of a building/pole/road/whatever. It would really suck if the front bleeder came loose or something and all you had left was the rear brake.

Quote from: Kijona on April 22, 2012, 06:51:14 PM
I don't mean to sound paranoid or anything but I'd be very wary of that sort of thing - after all, the brakes on a motorcycle are all that is keeping us from being a big red splatter on the side of a building/pole/road/whatever. It would really suck if the front bleeder came loose or something and all you had left was the rear brake.

Great, now you've got me nervous...I'm definitely gonna inspect the fit very carefully when I use them. If it's looking anything less than rock solid, maybe I'll take them off post-bleeding. Either way, they're cheap enough that I won't feel too bad about it.

Adidas, how long have you been riding around with yours?

Quote from: KnuckleBallz on April 22, 2012, 07:17:19 PM

Quote from: Kijona on April 22, 2012, 06:51:14 PM
I don't mean to sound paranoid or anything but I'd be very wary of that sort of thing - after all, the brakes on a motorcycle are all that is keeping us from being a big red splatter on the side of a building/pole/road/whatever. It would really suck if the front bleeder came loose or something and all you had left was the rear brake.

Great, now you've got me nervous...I'm definitely gonna inspect the fit very carefully when I use them. If it's looking anything less than rock solid, maybe I'll take them off post-bleeding. Either way, they're cheap enough that I won't feel too bad about it.

Adidas, how long have you been riding around with yours?

Removing and putting them back on will introduce the possibility of air in the system. Removing the stock bleeder nipple will do the same thing. It just seems like a lot of trouble for something that presents a somewhat real safety hazard. Especially when you can get something that requires no modification to the bike. Heh...sorry, don't mean to make you paranoid...it's just my way of thinking that you don't f%$k around when it comes to the brakes (especially the front ones) on a motorcycle.

For me its worth having the ease of bleeding my brakes whenever i need without asking for someone to help man the bleeder/push the peddle.

I wouldn't foresee any problems from them. They appear to be quality products. The youtube installation video says to not put these on with empty lines. Makes it difficult to fill the fluids.. If new lines are put on fill and do a quick bleed with stock bleeder, then replace bleeder with the 1 way unit.

As long as things are torqued and the proper thread lock is used there should be no more risk with these over stock bleeders.  They turn to shut valve just as the stock unit does.

Check out this video for a little more idea of how they work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVjPVhoPHow

Right, I pretty much understood what they were all about but it's cool to see them actually work.

I don't understand why they say to use threadlock when you'll be loosening and tightening it. Yes it will keep the fluid from leaking out but...there are better things for that.

Still, it seems like an inconvenience compared to the other products that attach to the stock nipple via a piece of hose. Those accomplish the exact same thing but require no modification at all (and are probably cheaper too).

The threadlock is applied to the threads securing the bleeder -> bike. The valve adjuster and its threads work just as the stock bleeder does, just has a 1 way check valve added.

As for not seeing the need, to each his own

Quote from: steezin_and_wheezin on April 22, 2012, 08:26:36 PM
The threadlock is applied to the threads securing the bleeder -> bike. The valve adjuster and its threads work just as the stock bleeder does, just has a 1 way check valve added.

As for not seeing the need, to each his own

Oh, it has separate threads? I couldn't see in the video or maybe I'm just blind.

Quote from: steezin_and_wheezin on April 22, 2012, 07:49:53 PM
I wouldn't foresee any problems from them. They appear to be quality products. The youtube installation video says to not put these on with empty lines. Makes it difficult to fill the fluids.. If new lines are put on fill and do a quick bleed with stock bleeder, then replace bleeder with the 1 way unit.

I just did Phenix's rear brake on Wednesday night. It was dry. Yes - they are tough with no fluid as air compresses too much to open the 1-way valve.
I used a tube and sucked while pumping the brake pedal until fluid started to come out the tube. Then put tube down into a catch cup and continued like normal. Too maybe an extra minute or two to get fluid started. Entire fill and bleeding took maybe 5 minutes with no help required.

Quote from: Kijona on April 22, 2012, 08:39:19 PM
Oh, it has separate threads? I couldn't see in the video or maybe I'm just blind.

I guess I was assuming they had separate thread, as I don't see how the design would work without them. But after looking at the bleeder it appears I'm incorrect.

@ Adidas - Do the bleeders have separate threads? 1 for mounting bleeder, and the other that adjusts the valve position?

Quote from: steezin_and_wheezin on April 23, 2012, 06:39:41 AM

Quote from: Kijona on April 22, 2012, 08:39:19 PM
Oh, it has separate threads? I couldn't see in the video or maybe I'm just blind.

I guess I was assuming they had separate thread, as I don't see how the design would work without them. But after looking at the bleeder it appears I'm incorrect.

@ Adidas - Do the bleeders have separate threads? 1 for mounting bleeder, and the other that adjusts the valve position?

That's what I was thinking too...it doesn't make any sense to put threadlock on the threads just to have to redo it every time. Threadlock kind of dries up after a while and becomes useless. Also, I'm not sure how well threadlock mixes with brake fluid and if it hardens in the fluid...I'm not sure I want threadlock kicking around in my brake system.

Just opened the package. One thread.

Quote from: KnuckleBallz on April 26, 2012, 06:01:22 PM
Just opened the package. One thread.

I just don't see the advantage of that design. The only thing you gain is the ability to keep squeezing the lever but there are options that don't involve threadlocker and removing the stock nipples.

To each their own I guess.

FYI - used the bleeders succesfully. Real easy. Got so excited watching it pump out the back that I almost bled the resevoir dry though, haha. Whoever wrote the tutorial on bleeding brakes- Thank you very much.