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How do you feel about Buell's?

Started by knowles, May 05, 2012, 08:55:55 PM

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Twisted

Quote from: Kijona on May 05, 2012, 11:55:28 PM
Do not let the name deceive you..

IT'S STILL A HARLEY LOL

Seriously though...I've heard good/bad things about them. Lots of vibration, not a lot of power, etc. Also, air cooled motor with one cylinder behind the other? That's the dumbest design I've ever heard of...sorry Harley.

I notice you only quoted the bad things. Where are the good thing you heard? Such as belt drive and self adjusting valves?


dougdoberman

Quote from: Twisted on May 07, 2012, 01:18:00 AM
Quote from: Kijona on May 05, 2012, 11:55:28 PM
Do not let the name deceive you..

IT'S STILL A HARLEY LOL

Seriously though...I've heard good/bad things about them. Lots of vibration, not a lot of power, etc. Also, air cooled motor with one cylinder behind the other? That's the dumbest design I've ever heard of...sorry Harley.

I notice you only quoted the bad things. Where are the good thing you heard? Such as belt drive and self adjusting valves?

I'm not sure I agree that belt drive falls on the good side of the equation.  :)
If you can't be a good example, at least try to be a horrible reminder.

milezero5

I own a 1125cr

Its my second bike, first was a yammy fz6      the 6 was a very reliable bike, great to begin on however it lacked character and soul
The power and handling are more than enough to give the big boy bikes a run for there money
The cr is an amazing bike   it has its quirks but what dosent
Bottom line is i would buy another one in a heartbeat
A buell is similar to the gs  when people ask me why did you buy a little old gs or some pos buell i tell them dont knock it till you ride one

Except the blast  thats a pos   lol
Oh and belt drive is amazing    chains suck

SAFE-T

I liked the belt drive on the Buell ~ one of the first bikes I can remember riding that seemed to have no freeplay in the driveline

shonole

Quote from: mister on May 06, 2012, 01:53:07 PM
Quote from: Kijona on May 06, 2012, 08:46:51 AM
Quote from: dougdoberman on May 06, 2012, 07:41:09 AM
Quote from: Kijona on May 05, 2012, 11:55:28 PM
Do not let the name deceive you..

IT'S STILL A HARLEY LOL

Seriously though...I've heard good/bad things about them. The bad things always, inevitably, stem back to the motor. Lots of vibration, not a lot of power, etc. Also, air cooled motor with one cylinder behind the other? That's the dumbest design I've ever heard of...sorry Harley.

Sorry but this is somewhat misinformed information given above.


The earlier models are all pretty good handlers and have plenty enough power for spirited riding.  They do suffer somewhat from the Harley engine, which definitely wasn't made for this sort of application.  They're not terrible bikes by any means, but unless you're a Harley die-hard who has to have a sport(y) bike, there are much better bikes available for much cheaper. 

Now the 1125r that the OP is asking about is a different beast altogether.  It has very little Harley in it at all.  (Possibly none?)  The motor is liquid cooled & built by Rotax.   I wouldn't classify it along with proper sportbikes, but it fits in acceptably with the sporting standards such as the FZ-1 and the Bandit 1200.  It's always gonna be a little overpriced, but if you'd like something off the beaten path, it's a pretty good bike.  The couple that I've ridden have been solid all-around bikes.

The problem any Buell owner faces is maintaining it.  I only live about 50 miles from Buell, so there's a pretty high rate of ownership around here yet from what I hear from owners I know, it's always been somewhat difficult to get parts from their local Harley dealer and it's become even more so since they parted ways.

Well, I've never owned one so I can only go by what I've heard.  :thumb:

Then stop repeating things you don't actually know and have only heard. It's not helpful even though you are trying to be.

And don't repeat it anyway then write "but I don't know it's only what I heard" cause it's equally unhelpful. If you don't know, just say nothing. Simple.  :thumb:

Michael

There's absolutely nothing wrong with repeating what you've heard.  It's like stereotypes; they may be offensive, but quite often they are true.
2004 SV650n - Blue

Kijona

Quote from: shonole on May 07, 2012, 10:31:14 AM
Quote from: mister on May 06, 2012, 01:53:07 PM
Quote from: Kijona on May 06, 2012, 08:46:51 AM
Quote from: dougdoberman on May 06, 2012, 07:41:09 AM
Quote from: Kijona on May 05, 2012, 11:55:28 PM
Do not let the name deceive you..

IT'S STILL A HARLEY LOL

Seriously though...I've heard good/bad things about them. The bad things always, inevitably, stem back to the motor. Lots of vibration, not a lot of power, etc. Also, air cooled motor with one cylinder behind the other? That's the dumbest design I've ever heard of...sorry Harley.

Sorry but this is somewhat misinformed information given above.


The earlier models are all pretty good handlers and have plenty enough power for spirited riding.  They do suffer somewhat from the Harley engine, which definitely wasn't made for this sort of application.  They're not terrible bikes by any means, but unless you're a Harley die-hard who has to have a sport(y) bike, there are much better bikes available for much cheaper. 

Now the 1125r that the OP is asking about is a different beast altogether.  It has very little Harley in it at all.  (Possibly none?)  The motor is liquid cooled & built by Rotax.   I wouldn't classify it along with proper sportbikes, but it fits in acceptably with the sporting standards such as the FZ-1 and the Bandit 1200.  It's always gonna be a little overpriced, but if you'd like something off the beaten path, it's a pretty good bike.  The couple that I've ridden have been solid all-around bikes.

The problem any Buell owner faces is maintaining it.  I only live about 50 miles from Buell, so there's a pretty high rate of ownership around here yet from what I hear from owners I know, it's always been somewhat difficult to get parts from their local Harley dealer and it's become even more so since they parted ways.

Well, I've never owned one so I can only go by what I've heard.  :thumb:

Then stop repeating things you don't actually know and have only heard. It's not helpful even though you are trying to be.

And don't repeat it anyway then write "but I don't know it's only what I heard" cause it's equally unhelpful. If you don't know, just say nothing. Simple.  :thumb:

Michael

There's absolutely nothing wrong with repeating what you've heard.  It's like stereotypes; they may be offensive, but quite often they are true.

I rode both a Soft Tail and Sportster...and both were like riding, as others have put it, a jackhammer. Limited powerband - thanks 'self adjusting valves' among other things - and not a lot of power to begin with - especially for the displacement. Plenty of torque, though.

I do know that the HD motors aren't exactly "great." I can imagine what a Buell would be like: innovative and unique motorcycle that you wish had a different motor. I can't comment on belt drive, but in concept it does seem better.

SAFE-T

The early Buells were the one's you wished had a different motor. The ones in between were better. The 1125 is the one with the best motor but beaten with an ugly stick.

SAFE-T

Buell's successor to the 1125 looks good, but I don't know where you can get one for use outside of a racetrack.

jestercinti

Hmmm...not sure about Buell.  Out of business like BSA, Bultaco, OSSA, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, and Saturn.

Yes, it's a Harley, but availability of parts will get harder as the years go by.
Bikeless and Broke at the moment...

Twisted

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Quote from: jestercinti on May 08, 2012, 10:45:46 AM
Hmmm...not sure about Buell.  Out of business like BSA, Bultaco, OSSA, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, and Saturn.

Yes, it's a Harley, but availability of parts will get harder as the years go by.

OEM parts maybe harder to find but a quick search on the internet will bring up repro and aftermarket parts I am betting for all those names you just mentioned. Just because they quit making a bike does not mean there will be no parts for them. If there is a market for them some thrifty person out there will be fabbing something up and then selling. My mate is doing up a Bultaco from scratch and was amazed at the availability of parts.

To many people listen to myths and hearsay on forums. From what I have seen especially on this forum is that if the bike is not Japanese it is written off as being a quirky basketcase. To me the Buells are a damn beautiful bike. Look at the XB9 or XB12. They are sex on wheels.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMXT4Y1Y-PA

I would not say no to one being in my garage. But I spose it is each to his own.


cbcanada

I would not recommend the The buell blast

milezero5

Fyi- i can get parts for my buell faster than i  :thumb:can get parts for the gs

Buell is yes out of business   but erik buell racing still supplies quite a few important parts since that is his new company

Not to mention the 1125s arent harleys     there are very little parts associated with them

And hate to say it but there is way more aftermarket support for buell than the gs

But hey what does it reallu matter as long as your out enjoying yourself     :thumb:

slipperymongoose

I saw mythbusters yesterday and they did the tablecloth pull with a motorcycle myth, and guess what bike Jamie rode? You guessed it a buell.
Some say that he submitted a $20000 expense claim for some gravel

And that if he'd write a letter of condolance he would at least spell your name right.

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