Quote from: cbrfxr67 on May 14, 2012, 10:03:48 AM
Last thing for me was black kid threw a rock at me.  Or he pretended to,...which I gave him the 'cmoon!' gesture with a 'I k-eeel you' look.  Luckily no incidents recently riding.  Hopefully I don't get mangled on the way home after work now,...

Couple weeks ago I was riding through a neighborhood when I passed a few kids that looked like Junior High age, little hoodlum looking things. They yelled something as I passed, wasn't sure what they said but it sounded offensive. Without hesitation I hit the brakes, checked my 6, and pulled a U-turn. Before I was even through with the U-turn, they were all running the other direction.

Gave me a good laugh.

Quote from: Formori on May 14, 2012, 04:56:50 AM
I'm seriously considering a horn upgrade to around 100dB, since the stock horn is like a toy and nobody hears it.

That's why I upgraded to the Stebel, I could barely hear my own horn when riding down the highway.

Speaking of horns, a friend of mine got tired of being shoved around in his rx-7 so we put a train horn on it. The compressor took up most of the rear and the horns had to be modified to fit under the hood. It would actually mess with the little rotary engine when he hit it, but NOBODY pushed him around after. I swear at least ten people crapped their pants when he hit that thing. Really funny riding downtown when he wanted to make sure people were alert. If he told you to put on the ear protection you listened. Maybe a little excessive.

Our horns operate at 12V DC correct?

New York drivers are like swimming with sharks. Nobody stays in lanes and they dart abruptly from one spot to the next. So I act like a fish and try not to get eaten. It's kinda zen in a weird way.

Once, there was this guy behind me honking his horn, even though I was following traffic and there was nowhere for me or anyone else to go. I ignored him, until he decided to make a right turn in my lane with me... the outside inside outside maneuver worked against me (yes... I had my blinker on, too). I commited to the turn and stayed right next him 2-3 feet from his face barely squeezing between him and oncoming traffic. I called him an a$$hole since he was right there. Later, as traffic became really jammed up, I was lane splitting and passed him ... waving my finger. Even if he had road rage at that point, that shark was stuck while I swam away quickly.

I now fake people out before making turns by shifting positions all over my lane until the second before the turn. That way they are not tempted to dart into my open space left for negotiating a turn. Hell, I shift positions constantly in my lane so drivers stop perceiving me as an open space to squeeze into.

Does everyone on here have a gun or what?


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Quote from: wildcat333 on May 14, 2012, 06:06:59 PM
Does everyone on here have a gun or what?

Multiple..and if I had ever used one on an idiot in traffic, I would be posting this from prison.

Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on May 14, 2012, 06:49:34 PM

Quote from: wildcat333 on May 14, 2012, 06:06:59 PM
Does everyone on here have a gun or what?

Multiple..and if I had ever used one on an idiot in traffic, I would be posting this from prison.

Exactly. Unless the state has strong castle laws like Florida, you're more than likely going to prison if you ever use your gun outside of your home -- and even then it's a toss-up. I only carry mine to work and back, to friends' houses in the country for target practice, or the firing range. Although I wont pull my gun unless absolutely threatened with no escape, I will definitely let the shoulder holster show from time to time.

At last count there are 31 firearms in my possession,  to include 9 pistols. However I can only effectively fire one at a time. Still working on it. If anyone is considering carrying go with something reliable yet inexpensive. Reason being if you ever have to use it you'll probably lose it. I go with a Springfield XD in 45 ACP as it has never misfired , has great accuracy and only cost about $500. If i had to give up my Wilson Combat I'd probably cry like a little girl. A little of topic but something to keep in mind. Truly hope it never comes to it for everyones sake.

I seem to be able to avoid most situations by anticipating idiotic maneuvers from others, but on my last ride home from class, some guy ran a red light to get through the intersection and queue up on the onramp while I was turning right to access said onramp. He sped right past my left side, way too close for comfort. In that instance, I rolled on the throttle to catch up, and I kicked his car as I went past. Then I took off to avoid an opportunity for further escalation.

Quote from: Huff1371 on May 14, 2012, 07:32:00 PM
At last count there are 31 firearms in my possession,  to include 9 pistols. However I can only effectively fire one at a time. Still working on it. If anyone is considering carrying go with something reliable yet inexpensive. Reason being if you ever have to use it you'll probably lose it. I go with a Springfield XD in 45 ACP as it has never misfired , has great accuracy and only cost about $500. If i had to give up my Wilson Combat I'd probably cry like a little girl. A little of topic but something to keep in mind. Truly hope it never comes to it for everyones sake.

And you guys wonder why there are shootings all the time?

Quote from: Erika on May 14, 2012, 05:54:53 PMI now fake people out before making turns by shifting positions all over my lane until the second before the turn. That way they are not tempted to dart into my open space left for negotiating a turn. Hell, I shift positions constantly in my lane so drivers stop perceiving me as an open space to squeeze into.

I do the exact same thing. I get people who will move into my lane just because I'm riding in the outside or inside third of the lane.

If I'm in heavy traffic, like bumper to bumper on the highway where people get really impatient, I'm constantly going from side to side in my lane to lay claim to my portion of the road.

Quote from: codajastal on May 14, 2012, 08:19:55 PM

Quote from: Huff1371 on May 14, 2012, 07:32:00 PM
At last count there are 31 firearms in my possession,  to include 9 pistols. However I can only effectively fire one at a time. Still working on it. If anyone is considering carrying go with something reliable yet inexpensive. Reason being if you ever have to use it you'll probably lose it. I go with a Springfield XD in 45 ACP as it has never misfired , has great accuracy and only cost about $500. If i had to give up my Wilson Combat I'd probably cry like a little girl. A little of topic but something to keep in mind. Truly hope it never comes to it for everyones sake.

And you guys wonder why there are shootings all the time?

Because people own guns with the purpose of self-defense or fun target practice? I hardly think so. Look, if somebody is looking to kill another person, they will find a way -- be it a gun, knife, hands, etc. So if you take away guns, the "heat of the moment" murders will not decrease; they will simply find another vehicle for murder. All other gun violence cases can be attributed to the people purchasing guns for the sole purpose of killing another person.

The only thing you can attribute to myself or the majority of legal gun owners is that they can be handled by the wrong person such as a child accidentally, which may end up in a death. Responsible people will keep ammo, clips, and the gun in separate places and locked up. Outside of that, why would we wonder why there are so many shootings? I know why there are so many shootings... because people are idiots and there are guns in the world. But if there weren't any guns, you'd simply change it to, "You carry a knife? And you guys wonder why there are stabbings all the time." It is cliche, but guns don't kill people; people kill people.

Even for non self-defense purposes, which is 90% of the reason I own guns, you'd be surprised how equivalent shooting a gun at the range and driving a motorcycle is. It is a strange mating of danger, excitement, tranquility, and peace.

And I'll end with this: I will be damned if I am not allowed to own a gun legally while it is even easier to acquire guns illegally by people you really don't want having guns. I hope I never have to use my guns in self-defense... and I probably wouldn't be able to recover mentally if I did; however, I would much rather live with the torment for the rest of my life than have some @$$hole take me away from my family and friends or take my family and friends away from me.

/rant

Quote from: 00sanchez on May 14, 2012, 11:16:33 PM

Quote from: codajastal on May 14, 2012, 08:19:55 PM

Quote from: Huff1371 on May 14, 2012, 07:32:00 PM
At last count there are 31 firearms in my possession,  to include 9 pistols. However I can only effectively fire one at a time. Still working on it. If anyone is considering carrying go with something reliable yet inexpensive. Reason being if you ever have to use it you'll probably lose it. I go with a Springfield XD in 45 ACP as it has never misfired , has great accuracy and only cost about $500. If i had to give up my Wilson Combat I'd probably cry like a little girl. A little of topic but something to keep in mind. Truly hope it never comes to it for everyones sake.

And you guys wonder why there are shootings all the time?

Because people own guns with the purpose of self-defense or fun target practice? I hardly think so. Look, if somebody is looking to kill another person, they will find a way -- be it a gun, knife, hands, etc. So if you take away guns, the "heat of the moment" murders will not decrease; they will simply find another vehicle for murder. All other gun violence cases can be attributed to the people purchasing guns for the sole purpose of killing another person.

The only thing you can attribute to myself or the majority of legal gun owners is that they can be handled by the wrong person such as a child accidentally, which may end up in a death. Responsible people will keep ammo, clips, and the gun in separate places and locked up. Outside of that, why would we wonder why there are so many shootings? I know why there are so many shootings... because people are idiots and there are guns in the world. But if there weren't any guns, you'd simply change it to, "You carry a knife? And you guys wonder why there are stabbings all the time." It is cliche, but guns don't kill people; people kill people.

Even for non self-defense purposes, which is 90% of the reason I own guns, you'd be surprised how equivalent shooting a gun at the range and driving a motorcycle is. It is a strange mating of danger, excitement, tranquility, and peace.

And I'll end with this: I will be damned if I am not allowed to own a gun legally while it is even easier to acquire guns illegally by people you really don't want having guns. I hope I never have to use my guns in self-defense... and I probably wouldn't be able to recover mentally if I did; however, I would much rather live with the torment for the rest of my life than have some @$$hole take me away from my family and friends or take my family and friends away from me.

/rant

I will say this statement only.   
31 guns? FFS How many do you need for self defence? Give me a break?
I have NO issue with owning a gun for self defence but talking about road rage and carrying guns is STUPID.
/my rant

Quote from: codajastal on May 15, 2012, 12:04:06 AM

Quote from: 00sanchez on May 14, 2012, 11:16:33 PM

Quote from: codajastal on May 14, 2012, 08:19:55 PM

Quote from: Huff1371 on May 14, 2012, 07:32:00 PM
At last count there are 31 firearms in my possession,  to include 9 pistols. However I can only effectively fire one at a time. Still working on it. If anyone is considering carrying go with something reliable yet inexpensive. Reason being if you ever have to use it you'll probably lose it. I go with a Springfield XD in 45 ACP as it has never misfired , has great accuracy and only cost about $500. If i had to give up my Wilson Combat I'd probably cry like a little girl. A little of topic but something to keep in mind. Truly hope it never comes to it for everyones sake.

And you guys wonder why there are shootings all the time?

Because people own guns with the purpose of self-defense or fun target practice? I hardly think so. Look, if somebody is looking to kill another person, they will find a way -- be it a gun, knife, hands, etc. So if you take away guns, the "heat of the moment" murders will not decrease; they will simply find another vehicle for murder. All other gun violence cases can be attributed to the people purchasing guns for the sole purpose of killing another person.

The only thing you can attribute to myself or the majority of legal gun owners is that they can be handled by the wrong person such as a child accidentally, which may end up in a death. Responsible people will keep ammo, clips, and the gun in separate places and locked up. Outside of that, why would we wonder why there are so many shootings? I know why there are so many shootings... because people are idiots and there are guns in the world. But if there weren't any guns, you'd simply change it to, "You carry a knife? And you guys wonder why there are stabbings all the time." It is cliche, but guns don't kill people; people kill people.

Even for non self-defense purposes, which is 90% of the reason I own guns, you'd be surprised how equivalent shooting a gun at the range and driving a motorcycle is. It is a strange mating of danger, excitement, tranquility, and peace.

And I'll end with this: I will be damned if I am not allowed to own a gun legally while it is even easier to acquire guns illegally by people you really don't want having guns. I hope I never have to use my guns in self-defense... and I probably wouldn't be able to recover mentally if I did; however, I would much rather live with the torment for the rest of my life than have some @$$hole take me away from my family and friends or take my family and friends away from me.

/rant

I will say this statement only.   
31 guns? FFS How many do you need for self defence? Give me a break?
I have NO issue with owning a gun for self defence but talking about road rage and carrying guns is STUPID.
/my rant

Lol, to be fair, I don't think he was advocating carrying a gun for road rage, but self-defense in particular. I wont speak for him, though.

31 guns, though. If you could own 31 motorcycles, would you? I know I would. They all ride differently, made for different riding, etc. Guns are the same. If I could own 31 guns, I would as long as I could keep them safe Same with bikes for that matter.

Quote from: 00sanchez on May 15, 2012, 12:12:52 AM
Lol, to be fair, I don't think he was advocating carrying a gun for road rage, but self-defense in particular. I wont speak for him, though.

31 guns, though. If you could own 31 motorcycles, would you? I know I would. They all ride differently, made for different riding, etc. Guns are the same. If I could own 31 guns, I would as long as I could keep them safe Same with bikes for that matter.

There is a big difference between 31 bikes and 31 guns?
Guns ARE designed to KILL and that is a fact
Motorcycles are not, they are designed for transport.
Of course if I could strap a bullet to my bike and go that fast.......well then that would be fun.

Yeah I don't get carrying a gun. Why? Only time I have a rifle is for target shooting or putting a sick cow down. Or kangaroo shooting.

Furthermore best way to avoid a conflict where you would need a gun for self defence is not put yourself in the situation in the first place!
I will never see the need to carry a gun unless it is required because of your occupation.

Not many of them round down our way cods lol.

Quote from: slipperymongoose on May 15, 2012, 01:10:43 AM
Not many of them round down our way cods lol.

You might need one soon Cods living that close to the Goldy. 



Seppos love their guns man, just be glad they're far, far away.

Those who live by the sword, die by the sword.

Quote from: codajastal on May 15, 2012, 12:04:06 AM

Quote from: 00sanchez on May 14, 2012, 11:16:33 PM

Quote from: codajastal on May 14, 2012, 08:19:55 PM

Quote from: Huff1371 on May 14, 2012, 07:32:00 PM
At last count there are 31 firearms in my possession,  to include 9 pistols. However I can only effectively fire one at a time. Still working on it. If anyone is considering carrying go with something reliable yet inexpensive. Reason being if you ever have to use it you'll probably lose it. I go with a Springfield XD in 45 ACP as it has never misfired , has great accuracy and only cost about $500. If i had to give up my Wilson Combat I'd probably cry like a little girl. A little of topic but something to keep in mind. Truly hope it never comes to it for everyones sake.

And you guys wonder why there are shootings all the time?

Because people own guns with the purpose of self-defense or fun target practice? I hardly think so. Look, if somebody is looking to kill another person, they will find a way -- be it a gun, knife, hands, etc. So if you take away guns, the "heat of the moment" murders will not decrease; they will simply find another vehicle for murder. All other gun violence cases can be attributed to the people purchasing guns for the sole purpose of killing another person.

The only thing you can attribute to myself or the majority of legal gun owners is that they can be handled by the wrong person such as a child accidentally, which may end up in a death. Responsible people will keep ammo, clips, and the gun in separate places and locked up. Outside of that, why would we wonder why there are so many shootings? I know why there are so many shootings... because people are idiots and there are guns in the world. But if there weren't any guns, you'd simply change it to, "You carry a knife? And you guys wonder why there are stabbings all the time." It is cliche, but guns don't kill people; people kill people.

Even for non self-defense purposes, which is 90% of the reason I own guns, you'd be surprised how equivalent shooting a gun at the range and driving a motorcycle is. It is a strange mating of danger, excitement, tranquility, and peace.

And I'll end with this: I will be damned if I am not allowed to own a gun legally while it is even easier to acquire guns illegally by people you really don't want having guns. I hope I never have to use my guns in self-defense... and I probably wouldn't be able to recover mentally if I did; however, I would much rather live with the torment for the rest of my life than have some @$$hole take me away from my family and friends or take my family and friends away from me.

/rant

I will say this statement only.   
31 guns? FFS How many do you need for self defence? Give me a break?
I have NO issue with owning a gun for self defence but talking about road rage and carrying guns is STUPID.
/my rant

To each his own. MOST of mine are antique and/or collectable that I would never take anywhere. These represent a very good investment as whatever I have paid for them I could double my money. The rest are mainly for recreational/hunting purposes. I do have a couple for self-defense purposes but I NEVER would go about waving it at people that just want to start a fight or mouth off. I avoid just about any conflict , ecpecially drawing my weapon while riding. I completly see your point as that having so many firearms can seem excessive. However I probably have the least of anyone in my family as my step-father is a licensed dealer. It is a culture that can be very rewarding. I agree that guns and road rage is a horrible combination but I know given my experience that guy would've cracked my head in or I might have wrecked trying to evade him. If a gun is ever used in rage, be it road rage or domestic dispute, it is not being used in a justified manner. I felt threatened and thinking with a clear head, acted in a way that stopped the situation from escalating into something worse. I would always rather be jedged by twelve than carried by six.