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Thinking of trading my Bronco for an F4i. Opinions?

Started by shonole, June 25, 2012, 12:35:14 PM

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shonole

As far as maintenance, it got new plugs 2k ago, new chain and sprockets 1500k ago, and new rear pads 2k ago.  Going to need front pads fairly soon, but I'm gonna see if he'll go ahead and change them (not like that's not an easy fix).  Comes with an extra set of tires as well. 

FWIW, these are pics of it from last year at Deals Gap: 






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Kijona

Here are a few more observations I've made:

The only picture in the ad that shows the bike is a lot older than the pictures you posted. Red flag right there. I've found that what happens is people post pictures of the bike they took right after getting it. Because it looked a hell of a lot better then than it does now.

Ad says he wants to trade for something more aggressive. Yet he's willing to trade for a Bronco? Ummmm...kay? Maybe he's trying to dump some junk on you.

"Tires are okay. Have another set that will go with the bike."? Okay, then put those on there. Tires not mounted to the bike are worth little to nothing and only degrade the price because then you have to turn around and mount them yourself.

"Previous owner dropped it at a slow speed." No. That was more than a 'slow speed' fall. My 97 GS had been dropped at a "slow speed" and it wasn't nearly that bad. That bike had to have slid some distance for it to grind the plastic down that much. In fact, I bet they probably dropped it themselves and are lying.

Bikes that are 'cared for' are clean. People don't let bikes they 'care about' get all dirty and nasty like that. Also, look around the tail lights. There's bits of rubber it looks like - from what? Well probably the tire when somebody did a burnout on it.

Look at the first picture you posted of the bike. The tank decal is cracked and fading.

Looks like the keylock for the rear seat is missing from that third picture. Can't say for sure but it definitely appears that way.

Look at the second picture you posted. There's bolts missing from the fairing and in FACT, there's a couple of zipties holding the thing together. That isn't a bike that's been 'cared for'. Sorry.

On top of it, it has over 50,000 miles on it? PLEASE!

All of these things from a handful of small pics. How do you think it's going to look when you get there?

Just think of it this way...which do you need more? A running, fully functional (apart from windows) truck or a bike that's probably about to breathe its dying breath that looks like shaZam! on top of it?

Kijona

Ahhh...okay here's another hole in the guy's story. Those pictures are supposedly from last year? He claims he's had the bike for 2½ years, right? Well, if those are from last year, where is all that rash that the previous owner supposedly put on it? HMMMMM! So either he's lying about how long he's had it, he's lying about dropping it, or he wasn't the one riding it when those pics were taken. Regardless, dude's lying about something.

Also, you'll notice the fairings are NOT held together with zip ties in those pictures you just posted, but are in the more recent ones? Something is fishy.

shonole

#23
Yeah, the more I look at it, the worse it looks.  I'm still going to go check it out in person, because, hey, why not?  At least I'll get to ride it and see what it's like. 

I'll more than likely hold out, and see if I can find a buyer.  I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt about it being dirty, since the weather has been crap here for the past month. 

FWIW, the Bronco looks nicer in pics than it does in person too..

And I thought that as well, about the Deals Gap pics, but if you look closely on the second one you can see the damage, though I don't think I see zip ties in it..  Hmmm.
2004 SV650n - Blue

Kijona

#24
Quote from: shonole on June 26, 2012, 04:43:04 PM
Yeah, the more I look at it, the worse it looks.  I'm still going to go check it out in person, because, hey, why not?  At least I'll get to ride it and see what it's like. 

I'll more than likely hold out, and see if I can find a buyer.  I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt about it being dirty, since the weather has been crap here for the past month. 

FWIW, the Bronco looks nicer in pics than it does in person too..

And I thought that as well, about the Deals Gap pics, but if you look closely on the second one you can see the damage.
Um...I don't know about you but I don't see any damage. I see something that looks like a scuff but is actually a reflection? Also, why is the fairing held together with zip ties in that first pic but not in that one? Fishy like sushi dude, seriously.

If you wreck it, just be sure to drop it on the left side. LOL  :icon_lol: :icon_lol:

You don't want my SV? For shame...I love my SV! LOL

shonole

Quote from: Kijona on June 26, 2012, 04:46:40 PM
Quote from: shonole on June 26, 2012, 04:43:04 PM
Yeah, the more I look at it, the worse it looks.  I'm still going to go check it out in person, because, hey, why not?  At least I'll get to ride it and see what it's like. 

I'll more than likely hold out, and see if I can find a buyer.  I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt about it being dirty, since the weather has been crap here for the past month. 

FWIW, the Bronco looks nicer in pics than it does in person too..

And I thought that as well, about the Deals Gap pics, but if you look closely on the second one you can see the damage.
Um...I don't know about you but I don't see any damage. I see something that looks like a scuff but is actually a reflection? Also, why is the fairing held together with zip ties in that first pic but not in that one? Fishy like sushi dude, seriously.

If you wreck it, just be sure to drop it on the left side. LOL  :icon_lol: :icon_lol:

You don't want my SV? For shame...I love my SV! LOL

I can't tell if it's the first scuff, or just a reflection, but definitely no zip ties from what I can see..

And hahaha!

Hey, I'd definitely take that SV!  Even though I prefer the new gen!   :icon_twisted:

If this tank didn't get such crap mileage, I'd ride it up there and let you check it out!  But God, it would take at least $100 just to get there!  My sister has been driving it for the last 3 years or so as a daily driver (5 mile round trip), with very few problems.  It's not pretty, but it will do anything and go anywhere, no doubt.

Also, man you've got a keen eye!  I noticed most of the blemishes, but you're on it!   :icon_eek:
2004 SV650n - Blue

Kijona

#26
Quote from: shonole on June 26, 2012, 04:56:16 PM
Quote from: Kijona on June 26, 2012, 04:46:40 PM
Quote from: shonole on June 26, 2012, 04:43:04 PM
Yeah, the more I look at it, the worse it looks.  I'm still going to go check it out in person, because, hey, why not?  At least I'll get to ride it and see what it's like. 

I'll more than likely hold out, and see if I can find a buyer.  I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt about it being dirty, since the weather has been crap here for the past month. 

FWIW, the Bronco looks nicer in pics than it does in person too..

And I thought that as well, about the Deals Gap pics, but if you look closely on the second one you can see the damage.
Um...I don't know about you but I don't see any damage. I see something that looks like a scuff but is actually a reflection? Also, why is the fairing held together with zip ties in that first pic but not in that one? Fishy like sushi dude, seriously.

If you wreck it, just be sure to drop it on the left side. LOL  :icon_lol: :icon_lol:

You don't want my SV? For shame...I love my SV! LOL

I can't tell if it's the first scuff, or just a reflection, but definitely no zip ties from what I can see..

And hahaha!

Hey, I'd definitely take that SV!  Even though I prefer the new gen!   :icon_twisted:

If this tank didn't get such crap mileage, I'd ride it up there and let you check it out!  But God, it would take at least $100 just to get there!  My sister has been driving it for the last 3 years or so as a daily driver (5 mile round trip), with very few problems.  It's not pretty, but it will do anything and go anywhere, no doubt.

Also, man you've got a keen eye!  I noticed most of the blemishes, but you're on it!   :icon_eek:

First gens are better...FYI.

I've got a 1990 F-150 with the 5.8L/351 Windsor in it. It gets horrible mileage and it's only 2WD. I can't imagine that thing with 4WD. LOL

I'll probably just end up selling the SV when I need to and buying a decent small car. I really don't enjoy driving large vehicles.

What it is is...I don't want the bike, and I don't want YOU to have that piece of shaZam!. LOL! You're all oogly eyed over it so you overlook stuff. Hahaha!  :flipoff: :cheers:

shonole

2004 SV650n - Blue

yamahonkawazuki

if i had hte cash to spare id grab that bronco. but alas i do not.  tbh i know you like/want that bike. but please find somethign better or get some boot for trade.
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shonole

It's not really even that I'm sold on this bike..

I'm just in a position financially while I finish school where I need to lessen bills as much as possible (insurance on bronco AND a bike, vs. just bike), and I don't have the time/money to drive the Bronco anyway.  I've owned if for five years, and I've probably driven it 30 times in the last 3.  Literally the only time I use it is to: take my dog for a ride, go ride in the woods, or drive it just because.  It's 20 years old, and though mechanically sound, very rough around the edges.  It's far from polished.  To be honest, I'm not sure that anyone would ever give me $3k for it.  I've dropped the price to $2750obo for the holiday, to see if I can get some bites, and alas, still nothing.  And this is in SOUTH GA, where everyone loves big trucks!  It's definitely a buyer's market.. So frustrating.

I guess that's why I'm going to look at this bike, it kind of reminds me of the Bronco in spirit.. rough around the edges, but runs well in spite of it.  Not saying I'm making the trade (and definitely not without some other compensation), but it can't hurt to look. 

I definitely appreciate everyone's thoughts, keep them coming!
2004 SV650n - Blue

cbrfxr67

Next time I get the itch to pick something up I'm going to ask Kijona for the once over first!  :police:

(applause!)
"Its something you take apart in 2-3 days and takes 10 years to go back together."
-buddha

shonole

#31
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on June 27, 2012, 06:53:30 AM
Next time I get the itch to pick something up I'm going to ask Kijona for the once over first!  :police:

(applause!)

HAHAHA, I know, right?  So, does that mean your opinion has changed?
2004 SV650n - Blue

Huff1371

As much as I hate to say it, being a chevy guy, I'd hold out. F4i's are awesome but with that many miles in that cond. you're Bronco might actually be worth more. I think you could find a better deal. Now I have stab myself for saying a Bronco is worth anything but scrap. :2guns:
Friendly fire, isn't. But it's the most accurate. Semper Fi

shonole

Quote from: Huff1371 on June 27, 2012, 08:19:54 AM
As much as I hate to say it, being a chevy guy, I'd hold out. F4i's are awesome but with that many miles in that cond. you're Bronco might actually be worth more. I think you could find a better deal. Now I have stab myself for saying a Bronco is worth anything but scrap. :2guns:

Ha!  Bronco's are like jeeps, the hold their value really well.  But then, old K5s do too.  Maybe it's just a 2 door SUV thing? 
2004 SV650n - Blue

cbrfxr67

I'd still go trade for it.  But that's just me and I know I'd fix whatever went wrong with it.  I'd rework the fairings and paint it.  I'd clean it up.  If something went wrong with the engine, I'd fix it.  That's just me though. 
"Its something you take apart in 2-3 days and takes 10 years to go back together."
-buddha

shonole

#35
Quote from: cbrfxr67 on June 27, 2012, 09:17:32 AM
I'd still go trade for it.  But that's just me and I know I'd fix whatever went wrong with it.  I'd rework the fairings and paint it.  I'd clean it up.  If something went wrong with the engine, I'd fix it.  That's just me though.

That's my thinking as well, but only if it's in great mechanical shape.  I've priced new (painted) fairings, and I can get some for around $400.  So if he throws some cash in with the deal, cosmetics won't be an issue.  Plus, I won't be afraid of dropping it, since I'll be stepping up from the GS to something with a lot more power.  He's cleaning it up today, and I'm going to check it out tomorrow.  Supposedly the fairings only need new bolts, hence the zip ties.  We'll see tomorrow.  If it's not in great mechanical condition, it's a no go.

On a happier (not really) note, the Bronco's hood has been peeling from where it stayed parked under a tree and sap ate through the paint.. Well, these flood waters made it even worse, and I went out this morning to find sheets, yes SHEETS of clear coat peeling off.  Ugh.

Regardless, I may be putting the GS up for sale.  I'll post details and some pics later and see what you guys think I can ask for it.   :thumb:
2004 SV650n - Blue

iclrag

Quote from: shonole on June 25, 2012, 09:05:19 PM
Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on June 25, 2012, 08:28:57 PM
Quote from: iclrag on June 25, 2012, 06:37:42 PM
Honest;y, i think your bronco is worth alot more than that bike, i would wait for a better opportunity!
on a side note, thats a nice bronco! good luck selling!
i agree. hold off. got pics of the bronco? you may be able to ask for boot. but would this leave you vehicle less or do you have somethign else to drive when not riding?

Not the best pictures, but you get the general idea.  All of the specs were posted on the craigslist link, but I'll copy them here for anyone interested.  And no, the Bronco is nothing but a toy.  I've got an 06 Mustang that is my DD, and the GS.  I'd really like to trade it for a bike, or even a jeep, but no real bites yet.  I've had it up for a couple of weeks.  Once the weather cooperates, I'll clean her up and get some better pictures. 

1993 Ford Bronco
193,000 miles
80,000 miles on new motor
5.8 liter EFI V8
Automatic transmission
Push button 4x4 with Auto Hubs


Thats nothin! my friend has almost 700,000 miles on his bronco with the stock straight six in it still! (its an 83)

Kijona

Quote from: cbrfxr67 on June 27, 2012, 06:53:30 AM
Next time I get the itch to pick something up I'm going to ask Kijona for the once over first!  :police:

(applause!)

Gladly. :)

shonole

#38
Here's some pics of the Bronco after I cleaned it up today.  I also dug out all of the paperwork to show the maintenance records, including when the new engine was installed, and the transmission was rebuilt.

Didn't really want to scrub up the engine bay, so it's still pretty dirty, and it needs a polish/wax/tire shine.  What do you guys think it's worth?



















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Kijona

You should give it a camo paint job. That'll add to the value!

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