Rabid animals don't eat or drink anything, they are in overwhelmingly sever pain and distress---they lash out but they sure as hell aren't in the mood for dinner. Just how many incidents do you need to be convinced that Raccoons are vicious and powerful opportunistic predators?

Quote from: ojstinson on July 06, 2012, 07:03:00 PM
I agree, one of the dumbest freakin threads yet, guy lets his cat roam then bitches and moans that it got killed, he'll probably get another and do the same. This has gotten to be as endless and boring as the proverbial God/No God and Liberal/conservative debates------no one from either side EVER convinces the other side of anything. Got to admit that I got caught up in the argument for the sake of argument challenge but I really think it has run it's retched course.

B!tching and moaning?  No.  You missed the point.  Start at the beginning OJ.  The point is to be careful out there and watch out for animals on the road.  This was not a b!tch and moan fest, but more of a "Watch out and be careful out there" thread.

I think in the end, it's safe to say that we agree to disagree on the topic.  I'm done commenting on this.  Feel free to continue to argue about it if you wish.

Ride safe everyone...Jester

Quote from: ojstinson on July 07, 2012, 09:49:59 AM
Rabid animals don't eat or drink anything, they are in overwhelmingly sever pain and distress---they lash out but they sure as hell aren't in the mood for dinner. Just how many incidents do you need to be convinced that Raccoons are vicious and powerful opportunistic predators?

I think I'll need at least 31.

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B!tching and moaning?  No.  You missed the point.  Start at the beginning OJ.  The point is to be careful out there and watch out for animals on the road.  This was not a b!tch and moan fest, but more of a "Watch out and be careful out there" thread.

I think in the end, it's safe to say that we agree to disagree on the topic.  I'm done commenting on this.  Feel free to continue to argue about it if you wish.

Ride safe everyone...Jester

It's safe say that most of us get the intended message. Again, sorry for the loss of your pet.

Quote from: dam on July 06, 2012, 08:42:23 AM

Quote from: Kijona on July 04, 2012, 08:27:20 PM
I'm pretty sure it's not a given right to have your animals roam free on other people's property. Fixed or not, I don't want your animals on my property tearing my stuff up. I don't want to smell cat piss when I walk out my front door. I don't want them digging around in my vegetable garden and shitting in it. I don't want to have to dispose of bird, squirrel, chipmunk, mice, rat, etc. corpses because you let your cat run free. Don't make YOUR pets MY problem. Of course, I'm speaking about anybody that lets their cats roam free, not YOU personally, but you get what I mean.

The only argument anybody can ever come up with to defend the idea of letting their cats roam is "but I don't want to make them stay in the house, they need to be free!" WELL then don't f'ing get one. It's freaking simple.

I live out in the country. Here cats roam if they aren't indoor cats. There are a lot of cats that live in the barn of most every farm. they frequently show up here on my property. they don't tear up anything or leave any presents or piss/shaZam! where I would ever know about it. do I mind them? Why should I? I have an older cat that used to go out daily. She lost a back leg due to a car most likely. She got along fine on 3 legs and was still one of the fastest things out there and a damn good hunter. DON'T try to tell me that cat's belong inside and shouldn't be allowed to enjoy the great outdoors. like lots of other animals that roam the woods

Living out in the country is different from living in the city but the same principle applies. Don't let your pets become somebody's problem.

I would actively be sending these f%$king cats to the pound if I could. Unfortunately, if it has a collar on it, Animal Control won't take it away. Least that's how it is here. So, I'm stuck with them.

People want to cry and stuff when their cat gets run over or maimed by a dog or coyote. Well guess what? It's ENTIRELY their fault. Entirely. I don't care if the person who ran over it was hauling ass doing twice the speed limit...it's STILL THEIR fault. They understood the danger of letting their cat outside and did it anyway. Zero sympathy except for the cat.

Need I go into more detail? If nothing else, you should care more about your pets than to let them roam free and then HOPE they come home every night.

I'm getting sick of this "I want my pet to be able to enjoy the outdoors like it was meant to" argument. Bullshit.

Here's a motherfucking wake-up call: By HAVING a cat as a PET you are FURTHERING and PERPETUATING the issue. What do I mean? Well first you're trying to make the argument that cats deserve to be free...but then...you're actively having one as a pet? That's like saying "I want the water around here to be clean, so I'm going to protest against the dumping of waste into the river" but then taking your car to the shop that dumps motor oil in the river.

So, do people who have this mentality, also let their CHILDREN run rampant and free wherever they want? Or do they watch them like normal human beings? They watch them because they don't want anything to happen to their kid. Surely you can agree children should be let outdoors...but in a controlled manner. You wouldn't let your kid outside for hours at a time without supervision, would you? No.

So, why would anyone let their pet run around without supervision? Oh...wait...I see. It's because they take an apathetic approach to pet ownership. They aren't really that worried whether Mr. Fluffles comes home at the end of the day. If they were worried about something happening to the poor animal, they wouldn't let it loose. Oh, and GOD FORBID something happens to Mr. Fluffles because it will be SOMEBODY'S FAULT FOR SURE!!!! Somebody's. Anybody's. But NO WAY could it be THEIRS. Right?

I'm so goddamned sick of people and their f%$king hypocritical attitudes. Where the f%$k have we ended up where grown adults can't even take responsibility for and handle something as fundamentally simple as pet ownership? I guess that's part of the problem with humans...it's always somebody else's fault.

Quote from: Kijona on July 08, 2012, 02:16:19 AM
I'm getting sick of this "I want my pet to be able to enjoy the outdoors like it was meant to" argument. Bullshit.

Here's a motherfucking wake-up call: By HAVING a cat as a PET you are FURTHERING and PERPETUATING the issue. What do I mean? Well first you're trying to make the argument that cats deserve to be free...but then...you're actively having one as a pet? That's like saying "I want the water around here to be clean, so I'm going to protest against the dumping of waste into the river" but then taking your car to the shop that dumps motor oil in the river.

So, do people who have this mentality, also let their CHILDREN run rampant and free wherever they want? Or do they watch them like normal human beings? They watch them because they don't want anything to happen to their kid. Surely you can agree children should be let outdoors...but in a controlled manner. You wouldn't let your kid outside for hours at a time without supervision, would you? No.

So, why would anyone let their pet run around without supervision? Oh...wait...I see. It's because they take an apathetic approach to pet ownership. They aren't really that worried whether Mr. Fluffles comes home at the end of the day. If they were worried about something happening to the poor animal, they wouldn't let it loose. Oh, and GOD FORBID something happens to Mr. Fluffles because it will be SOMEBODY'S FAULT FOR SURE!!!! Somebody's. Anybody's. But NO WAY could it be THEIRS. Right?

I'm so goddamned sick of people and their f%$king hypocritical attitudes. Where the f%$k have we ended up where grown adults can't even take responsibility for and handle something as fundamentally simple as pet ownership? I guess that's part of the problem with humans...it's always somebody else's fault.

I dont have cats as pets......they have me as a pet. They let me feed them when THEY want......they let me open the door for them when THEY want ......they let me sit down on THEIR furniture while they sit on my lap......they let me sleep in THEIR bed and wake me up when they see fit and if they catch something they bring it to me so I will give them more attention.
I dont own the cats....They fucken own me!!!!!!!

Kijona-------Well said buddy, but it's not going to get through to most of this bunch, from whence I speak.

Quote from: codajastal on July 08, 2012, 02:33:27 AM

Quote from: Kijona on July 08, 2012, 02:16:19 AM
I'm getting sick of this "I want my pet to be able to enjoy the outdoors like it was meant to" argument. Bullshit.

Here's a motherfucking wake-up call: By HAVING a cat as a PET you are FURTHERING and PERPETUATING the issue. What do I mean? Well first you're trying to make the argument that cats deserve to be free...but then...you're actively having one as a pet? That's like saying "I want the water around here to be clean, so I'm going to protest against the dumping of waste into the river" but then taking your car to the shop that dumps motor oil in the river.

So, do people who have this mentality, also let their CHILDREN run rampant and free wherever they want? Or do they watch them like normal human beings? They watch them because they don't want anything to happen to their kid. Surely you can agree children should be let outdoors...but in a controlled manner. You wouldn't let your kid outside for hours at a time without supervision, would you? No.

So, why would anyone let their pet run around without supervision? Oh...wait...I see. It's because they take an apathetic approach to pet ownership. They aren't really that worried whether Mr. Fluffles comes home at the end of the day. If they were worried about something happening to the poor animal, they wouldn't let it loose. Oh, and GOD FORBID something happens to Mr. Fluffles because it will be SOMEBODY'S FAULT FOR SURE!!!! Somebody's. Anybody's. But NO WAY could it be THEIRS. Right?

I'm so goddamned sick of people and their f%$king hypocritical attitudes. Where the f%$k have we ended up where grown adults can't even take responsibility for and handle something as fundamentally simple as pet ownership? I guess that's part of the problem with humans...it's always somebody else's fault.

I dont have cats as pets......they have me as a pet. They let me feed them when THEY want......they let me open the door for them when THEY want ......they let me sit down on THEIR furniture while they sit on my lap......they let me sleep in THEIR bed and wake me up when they see fit and if they catch something they bring it to me so I will give them more attention.
I dont own the cats....They fucken own me!!!!!!!

We don't OWN the cats, they live with us. They are part of the family. How old do your children need to be before they've learned to be responsible enough to be out on their own? Some of you need to take a chill pill. You have your opinion and I can respect that. No need to get all worked up over it. Please don't go out of your way to kill or maim any of my family or friends. Watch out for animals on the road. Thank You.

Quote from: dam on July 08, 2012, 07:31:10 AM

Quote from: codajastal on July 08, 2012, 02:33:27 AM

Quote from: Kijona on July 08, 2012, 02:16:19 AM
I'm getting sick of this "I want my pet to be able to enjoy the outdoors like it was meant to" argument. Bullshit.

Here's a motherfucking wake-up call: By HAVING a cat as a PET you are FURTHERING and PERPETUATING the issue. What do I mean? Well first you're trying to make the argument that cats deserve to be free...but then...you're actively having one as a pet? That's like saying "I want the water around here to be clean, so I'm going to protest against the dumping of waste into the river" but then taking your car to the shop that dumps motor oil in the river.

So, do people who have this mentality, also let their CHILDREN run rampant and free wherever they want? Or do they watch them like normal human beings? They watch them because they don't want anything to happen to their kid. Surely you can agree children should be let outdoors...but in a controlled manner. You wouldn't let your kid outside for hours at a time without supervision, would you? No.

So, why would anyone let their pet run around without supervision? Oh...wait...I see. It's because they take an apathetic approach to pet ownership. They aren't really that worried whether Mr. Fluffles comes home at the end of the day. If they were worried about something happening to the poor animal, they wouldn't let it loose. Oh, and GOD FORBID something happens to Mr. Fluffles because it will be SOMEBODY'S FAULT FOR SURE!!!! Somebody's. Anybody's. But NO WAY could it be THEIRS. Right?

I'm so goddamned sick of people and their f%$king hypocritical attitudes. Where the f%$k have we ended up where grown adults can't even take responsibility for and handle something as fundamentally simple as pet ownership? I guess that's part of the problem with humans...it's always somebody else's fault.

I dont have cats as pets......they have me as a pet. They let me feed them when THEY want......they let me open the door for them when THEY want ......they let me sit down on THEIR furniture while they sit on my lap......they let me sleep in THEIR bed and wake me up when they see fit and if they catch something they bring it to me so I will give them more attention.
I dont own the cats....They fucken own me!!!!!!!

We don't OWN the cats, they live with us. They are part of the family. How old do your children need to be before they've learned to be responsible enough to be out on their own? Some of you need to take a chill pill. You have your opinion and I can respect that. No need to get all worked up over it. Please don't go out of your way to kill or maim any of my family or friends. Watch out for animals on the road. Thank You.

If you're implying that I'd hurt an animal or someone I think you need to re-read my post. If nothing else I feel bad for the cats, and hold nothing against them. It's not their fault their owners are irresponsible.

But you know, you're right...getting upset and stuff over it isn't worth it. I can't do anything about it. People won't change their minds because of anything I say.

Lighten up guys

We are light, we are just practicing our aggressive debating skills, and in the process perhaps save a few cats from unspeakable fates.

While we're on-topic here,  did you see the video of a guy on a bike hitting a deer? he got lucky and stayed on the bike, great example of why you should watch out though.

That's why deer should be kept inside. I hate it when people let them roam. Bastards

Just when I thought the comments couldn't get any more childish or retarded, you came through for us.

we can have a constructive argument about cats all day, but stooping to personal insults is uncalled for.  Stay Classy San Diego!

Couldn't resist..

Very creative and original---Great comeback!!

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 this has become silly,   TARD FARM!!!!   

I rubber your glue, what ever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you!!