Quote from: Precisi0n on July 02, 2012, 09:22:37 PM
Picked this up a couple of months ago and have been quite impressed:



Anyone out there use UMC ammo?



I've heard mixed reviews.  Some say it will shoot fine but is rather dirty.  Other have said that there are major quality control issues and have even seen a couple of FTF's.  Figured it's fine for cheep target rounds.

Bulkammo.com You can get much better quality rounds cheaper. I use UMC only if it's all I can get.

Quote from: Precisi0n on July 02, 2012, 09:22:37 PM
Picked this up a couple of months ago and have been quite impressed:

Anyone out there use UMC ammo?

I've heard mixed reviews.  Some say it will shoot fine but is rather dirty.  Other have said that there are major quality control issues and have even seen a couple of FTF's.  Figured it's fine for cheep target rounds.

I was tempted by the UMC ammo. However, Walmart sells .40 S&W for $26.99 for 100. So that pretty much beats anything, even the el-cheapo "TulAmmo" or "Monarch." by quite a bit - and it's Federal. I'm sure the same is true of 9mm. Might want to check it out. Not sure how much you paid but Academy has the 250rd box for 61.99 and that comes out to be about 25 cents a piece. A penny more per shot and you could have CCI Blazer ammo, which is not bad. Better than the Remington I'm sure.

Quote from: codajastal on July 02, 2012, 09:42:25 PM

Quote from: Kijona on July 02, 2012, 08:23:19 PM
Well I decided to endeavor to polish my Smith and Wesson .40. The upper is completely stainless steel so I was not extremely worried about having issues...I think it turned out pretty good.

(clicky for bigger pics)

Went from this:


To this:

Holy shaZam!, what a difference

Thanks! Took...a while. LOL Stainless is an incredibly hard metal, as I'm sure you know. And firearm grade stainless is even worse!

if hte ammo is diry, so be it. means youll just have to clean your gun more often. which isnt a bad thing. i like good ammo myself. but if its like bad porno, aka cheap and dirty. and its all i can afford, then i guess, i clean my gun

Had a great weekend shooting last weekend.

Took a trip up to the rents in PA (eastern).  Started off sighting in the 7mm at 200yards,  Was dead on for elevation and with the wind was about 3-4 inches to the left.  Had a 3 shot group at about 5 inches. (good enough for me...for now)  Went through about 4 boxes of 7mm and ill tell you, my shoulder was not so happy with me by the end of the weekend.

Saturday got out my Parker 16g P grade, and went and did a round of sporting clays. (100 targets)  beat my old man by a few birds.  total score was 62 out of 100.  again not bad, considering i only get to do this about twice a year if im lucky.  On a side note, we were following around a group of shooters from University of Vermont.  Great shots but would miss some easy ones.  They were fun to watch and great for conversation. not your typical college dicks.  Must be nice to afford a $10,000 skeet gun from Benelli.

anyway, just thought i would share.

Quote from: VerdonD952 on July 06, 2012, 08:51:11 AM
Had a great weekend shooting last weekend.

Took a trip up to the rents in PA (eastern).  Started off sighting in the 7mm at 200yards,  Was dead on for elevation and with the wind was about 3-4 inches to the left.  Had a 3 shot group at about 5 inches. (good enough for me...for now)  Went through about 4 boxes of 7mm and ill tell you, my shoulder was not so happy with me by the end of the weekend.

Saturday got out my Parker 16g P grade, and went and did a round of sporting clays. (100 targets)  beat my old man by a few birds.  total score was 62 out of 100.  again not bad, considering i only get to do this about twice a year if im lucky.  On a side note, we were following around a group of shooters from University of Vermont.  Great shots but would miss some easy ones.  They were fun to watch and great for conversation. not your typical college dicks.  Must be nice to afford a $10,000 skeet gun from Benelli.

anyway, just thought i would share.

I'm not sure what $10k buys in a shotgun. It's a smooth bore. It's a shotgun shell. Not much else to it, is there? It's not like there's a ton of engineering that goes into a freaking shotgun.

I think that my $100 Walmart Mossberg Maverick 88 (same as a Mossy 500) will break a pigeon just as well as the $10,000 gun.

Shoot one and you'll know. Maybe not $10k, but a $2,000 shotty is worth it.

Quote from: Huff1371 on July 08, 2012, 07:07:41 AM
Shoot one and you'll know. Maybe not $10k, but a $2,000 shotty is worth it.

I suppose you're right to an extent. I remember really liking my friend's Beretta semi-auto duck gun. Felt extremely well made. But I'd never spend anywhere near a grand on a shotgun. I'd buy my dream gun, a MkVII .50AE or .44 magnum Desert Eagle. I might even go for a .357 if one showed itself. However, those are kind of hard to find.

Quote from: Kijona on July 08, 2012, 10:54:47 AM

Quote from: Huff1371 on July 08, 2012, 07:07:41 AM
Shoot one and you'll know. Maybe not $10k, but a $2,000 shotty is worth it.

I suppose you're right to an extent. I remember really liking my friend's Beretta semi-auto duck gun. Felt extremely well made. But I'd never spend anywhere near a grand on a shotgun. I'd buy my dream gun, a MkVII .50AE or .44 magnum Desert Eagle. I might even go for a .357 if one showed itself. However, those are kind of hard to find.

Ok, without this post ending up like the "animals in the road" post. Why the hell would you want a MkVII? Is it to show off in a display or do you actually want to shoot it? Or better yet, have you shot one? The .44 is kinda cool to shoot but completly unworth the cost for something other than the "I have this!!!" factor but the .50 is really about the most over-rated pistol EVER. It's way to heavy and unwieldy and really not that accurate, not to mention you waste a McD's value meal every time you pull the trigger. I've shot both and actually owned a gold-plated .50 . I will say it was a dumb purchase but the one major "pro" to it was I made like $700 when I sold it. Not trying to piss on anyone's parade but if you've never shot one I would definitely say "try before you buy" but at least they are easy to sell.

Quote from: Huff1371 on July 08, 2012, 02:32:44 PM

Quote from: Kijona on July 08, 2012, 10:54:47 AM

Quote from: Huff1371 on July 08, 2012, 07:07:41 AM
Shoot one and you'll know. Maybe not $10k, but a $2,000 shotty is worth it.

I suppose you're right to an extent. I remember really liking my friend's Beretta semi-auto duck gun. Felt extremely well made. But I'd never spend anywhere near a grand on a shotgun. I'd buy my dream gun, a MkVII .50AE or .44 magnum Desert Eagle. I might even go for a .357 if one showed itself. However, those are kind of hard to find.

Ok, without this post ending up like the "animals in the road" post. Why the hell would you want a MkVII? Is it to show off in a display or do you actually want to shoot it? Or better yet, have you shot one? The .44 is kinda cool to shoot but completly unworth the cost for something other than the "I have this!!!" factor but the .50 is really about the most over-rated pistol EVER. It's way to heavy and unwieldy and really not that accurate, not to mention you waste a McD's value meal every time you pull the trigger. I've shot both and actually owned a gold-plated .50 . I will say it was a dumb purchase but the one major "pro" to it was I made like $700 when I sold it. Not trying to piss on anyone's parade but if you've never shot one I would definitely say "try before you buy" but at least they are easy to sell.

No offense taken, I understand many people buy the pistols because they're "cool" and they get shot once maybe twice then it sits in a box in the closet. I have, however, fired all three, the first being the original 357 model, second being a MkVII .44 mag, and the third being one of the latest versions with the rail on the top in .50AE - the one made by Kahr - or so I was told.

I want the MkVII because they're supposedly made better. I did not care for how the MkI in .357 shot, but I loved the MkVII. Plus, I believe some of the MKVII in .44 would also chamber .41 magnum. I know there are some MkVII's floating around that were made to chamber the .50AE round.

I could go either way with the .50AE. It felt okay, not as good as the .44, but was alright. Lots of bang...lots of money per shot. The .44 is probably the much more affordable choice.

Why do I want a D'Eagle? Because of its iconic status, because it holds its value well, and because they are supremely accurate and fun to shoot. The engineering that went into them is amazing to me, and I'd love to own a piece of history. They are unique and there is nothing else out there like it (that is readily available).

Lastly, yes, I shoot all of my guns every chance I get - even my little Taurus TCP pocket pistol.

As a side note...I considered the .357 but if I'm going to buy a .357, it's going to be a revolver. I still don't own a revolver and I want one. More than likely it'll be a Ruger GP100. Either that or perhaps a Taurus.

hmm ... i like the gp100 in .357 , had a go at one too ... owned a S&W 586 in .357 though .. 6" barrel .. the bit extra weight feel did help a little with max loads (125gn hollowpoint with 16.5gn bluedot powder... they went BLAM!) ... the look of the gp100 is sleeker though 

funnily enough the BEST EVER all time most comfortable and (weirdly enough) accurate pistol i got a shot out of though .. was a Ruger Vaquero in .45LC .. it did fit my hand like a warm 18yo boobie!! 

but at 10m on a range.. with measured breath aim and shoot .. 1st 2 shots snake-eyes , 3 - 5 shots made the quarter dollar and the last was a little high but still within a rabbits headshot from centre of furthest other shot. ... coulda been a fluke but for me i was hellaciously impressed with the gun.

as for $$ shotguns .. my old man has a $20k AUD Beretta DT10 U/O  .. he shoots different comps in A grade and veterans class and has represented Aussie in the team for the AU/NZ field&game championships and has been 'shootin' since he was a youngun (73 now)

I've had a go at the DT10 and it does make a difference for higher end competition.. weight, balance, length, sights, speed of target acquisition .. they are a lovely piece of craftmanship ....

would i own one?... hell no! .. that much for a shotgun!!!!!!!!! but he loves it.. its a kind of investment package for him too.

he has also owned or used various 'pigeon grade' and 'gold cup' and etc etc etc other competition U/O shotguns in 12g 16g and 20g .. so has a very wide area to base his evaluation on. he feels the DT10 was a little expensive but still worth it... his fav shotgun of all time is still the Browning A5 semi auto though ... his dad bought the 'family' one back in 1947 i think and various of his brothers and him have had one here or there ever since.

kinda the same as postie bike and a BMWs1000rr ... both bikes ... both fun and useful in their own way .. but not the same.... not knocking the Mossberg either... i love the old clack clack!!  ..

my fav pump action though is the Remington 870 with parkerised finish... used to have one with a mag extender too so it carried 8 shells .. 8 x Winchester SSG is a helluva way to get through a mob of pigs  ... that was before the Aus gummint decided we was all evil bad ppl and limited mag capacity to 2 or 3 shots .. at which point .. as well as lifestyle changes .. i decided to get out of guns for awhile .. not that i was a blaze-away tyro or spiting myself.. just the laws were getting more and more strict and it just got too much d__king around to suit me.

i wont need much in the way of bang bangs till the chinese invade ... then i'm a borrow me a .416 sniper unit and its poppin time! 

but yeah .. $$ in shotguns/rifles/pistols can make a huge difference .. .not for just a days walkaround (though that too) but for competition purpose and week long comps etc with hundreds or thousands of shot fired .. even your shoulder knows the difference!

Damn the Chinese!!

anyway,  the shotguns the boys were shooting were all custom.  Custom everything!!!  The stocks were replaced with ones with mechanical recoil pads, that took all but a lil of the recoil out.  They had weighted receivers up front that could be changed out on the fly. Even the choke tubes were being changed each station for the range and spread pattern needed.  These were pro grade shotguns.  Not to mention the blueing on them was freakin beautiful.  Now did all this improve their shooting?  nah, probably not.  They were good shots but me and my Parker P grade 16 can stand toe to toe with em. 

Kijona, if you know what you're getting with the Deagle and still want one more power (pun intended) to you. I haven't heard of any in .41 but they might have something.

Quote from: Huff1371 on July 09, 2012, 11:12:16 AM
Kijona, if you know what you're getting with the Deagle and still want one more power (pun intended) to you. I haven't heard of any in .41 but they might have something.

I remember looking at a Mark VII in blued at a gun shop that had ".44/.41" stamped on the end of the lower. I can't say for sure they're all like that but I know they exist.

And yes, believe me, I've considered it for a while. I ALMOST bought the .44 MKVII because they had it for $799. It was in amazing shape. I just didn't have the money right then, then when I did have the money to potentially buy it, I took another trip to the shop and watched them sell it to somebody else. I was about 5-10 minutes too late...after it sat in the shop for well over a month while I gathered the funds.

Oh well, maybe it's for the better I didn't get that particular model - maybe it was junk!

The good thing is you can sell a D'Eagle in decent to fair shape all day for $650-700. So I'd only be potentially losing $100 on it even if I did decide to sell it.

Addendum: but I appreciate the heads up!  

Yeah, I got mine from a drunk in need of  beer money. I paid him $900 for the gold one in .50 then ended up selling it a while later for $1600-$1700. If/when you go to get one let me know and I'll put out my feelers for one. If you want a new one I can try some of my FFL contacts. Can't guarantee anything though.

Quote from: Huff1371 on July 10, 2012, 07:30:06 AM
Yeah, I got mine from a drunk in need of  beer money. I paid him $900 for the gold one in .50 then ended up selling it a while later for $1600-$1700. If/when you go to get one let me know and I'll put out my feelers for one. If you want a new one I can try some of my FFL contacts. Can't guarantee anything though.

Hate the newer ones. I also don't love the way the .50 grip feels, and as you may know, all of the Mark 19's have the .50 grip (for modular function).

Thanks though!

Don't like how it feels? Take it to Red Jacket for some Treatment 

Michael

Quote from: Huff1371 on July 08, 2012, 07:07:41 AM
Shoot one and you'll know. Maybe not $10k, but a $2,000 shotty is worth it.

ive got to use a benelli skeet before. and i DID love it. love it enough to buy one? no. unless money was no object. then id consider it. but still id think no.

Bently Shotgun... less than $300
Lamber shotgun.... over $1k
Miroku shotgun... over $2k

There is nothing like shooting the Lamber. Well worth triple the price of the Bently. Shoulders better than the Miroku. Baby bear just right.

Michael

Just picked up a 1929 Tula Hex Mosin-Nagant rifle (7.62x54R) with all the original goodies (bayonet, sling, tools, oil can, belt, ammo pouches, etc.). $99 out the door. Amazing. Kicks a little less than a 30-06.

Also left the same store with a Ruger P95 in Stainless. $299 with tax included, and a free box of ammo. Ruger sure knows how to make a pistol!