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Started by bucket_chemist, July 17, 2012, 10:29:08 PM

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bucket_chemist

I've seen lots of information about aftermarket exhaust systems on this site, but I'm thinking about something different. I really like the look of an under seat exhaust since I saw ver4's thread about his new, very sexy Yamaha FZ6 http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=61278.0

I did a quick search for under seat exhausts here, but didn't find anything. Has anyone tried to fit one to their GS?
2007 GS500
Heated grips are my favourite accessory.

rebel_rocket

It's not mine but I found A pic of one.
slightly modded 09 Gs500f
pro taper contour handle bars
sv650 headlight
gsxr750 forks
sv650 tail
gsxr wheels
two brothers slip on (gsxr 1000)

bucket_chemist

Hey, nice find. That's pretty much what I had in mind. A cleaner execution might be nice, but it's good to know someone else has given it a go. I'm not keen on swapping out the tail section, though. I figure I need a hugger, and I can pull out the factory undertail/underseat bit. I might need to weld in a heat shield of some sort, and a place to keep the tool kit, but I think it's do-able. Now I just need time to get at it.
2007 GS500
Heated grips are my favourite accessory.

cbrfxr67

The outside pipe to undertail is hideous in my tiny two cent opinion.  Think there is any other way to do it?

and +1 "ver4's thread about his new, very sexy Yamaha FZ6"
"Its something you take apart in 2-3 days and takes 10 years to go back together."
-buddha

burning1

I don't think there's another way to do it. Not much clearance through the swingarm, or behind the engine.

If you pay attention, a lot of undertail exhausts are routed that way. 03+ CBR600RR and a bunch of Ducati come to mind.

iclrag

it's probably fixable with a good paint job  :icon_question:

cbrfxr67

#6
Burn,



'ats just a wee bit different good sir!  Guess I didn't notice, errr pay attention because it is so well done and not hanging out in the open looking hideous.
"Its something you take apart in 2-3 days and takes 10 years to go back together."
-buddha

bucket_chemist

It's all about the execution, really. And I don't think that the terrible exhaust wrap on that example is helping matters much. Since it will all have to be custom made anyway, I'd go with a stainless pipe, or ceramic coated. And you have to spend some time making it fit the lines of the bike, not just whacking it on there.
2007 GS500
Heated grips are my favourite accessory.

dgyver

 Here is mine. All the build pictures are on here.

Common sense in not very common.

burning1

Quote from: cbrfxr67 on July 19, 2012, 11:26:30 AM
'ats just a wee bit different good sir!  Guess I didn't notice, errr pay attention because it is so well done and not hanging out in the open looking hideous.

Execution is everything. Making a kit like that look nice is all in the details. :)

dougdoberman

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=59686.0

Can sticks out a little too far for my taste, but I think it looks pretty slick with the black pipe against the black frame.
If you can't be a good example, at least try to be a horrible reminder.

rebel_rocket

Quote from: dgyver on July 19, 2012, 01:48:37 PM
Here is mine. All the build pictures are on here.


what kind of swing arm is that?
slightly modded 09 Gs500f
pro taper contour handle bars
sv650 headlight
gsxr750 forks
sv650 tail
gsxr wheels
two brothers slip on (gsxr 1000)

dgyver

Quote from: rebel_rocket on July 22, 2012, 02:20:42 AM
what kind of swing arm is that?

It is from an RGV 250. One of the few swingarms that are narrow enough to fit.
Common sense in not very common.

burning1

RGV as dgyver said. I strongly advise against doing the swap - it's not at all trivial.

SAFE-T

Interesting that Japanese manufacturers have abandoned underseat exhaust systems as 'inefficient' in their ongoing quest for greater performance.

iclrag

If you are trying to saev weight, an under-seat exhaust is really not helpful at all, unless your exhaust comes out the back of the engine over the tire, but why have all the un-necessary piping? i like the look of it as well, i'm just saying from their viewpoint thats my assumption

burning1

Anyone who thought there was a performance benefit was a fool. For weight centralization and weight reduction, under-belly seems to be the best bet. But, sometimes the reality of engine placement requires moving the exhaust system to the conventional location.

A titanium or carbon muffler just isn't that heavy to begin with.

bucket_chemist

I always figured it was to improve ground clearance for when you're leaned way, way over. As for the GS, I just think it could look pretty cool if done right.
2007 GS500
Heated grips are my favourite accessory.

twinrat

the underseat exhaust in racing is set at a pacific angle and aids performance .It is not there for centre of gravity effect .I think it was ducati or one of the other major teams had it set wrong and were handicapped in performance before they discovered there problem ,it is for the streamling effect .The benifit must be worth it to have the extra bends in the exhaust.

RossLH

Quote from: twinrat on July 25, 2012, 02:27:45 AM
the underseat exhaust in racing is set at a pacific angle

As opposed to an Atlantic angle?

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