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Started by adidasguy, July 26, 2012, 02:45:48 PM

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Janx101

random thought .. like most of mine are....

when the "magic plastic card" is in a fit state to be used again.. mebbe next week .. m'gonna order a set too ...

and seeing as i've recently started using the e10 94ron ... and folks say it contains more water ... and folks say the brisk plugs must produce more heat ... then i'm golden! .. extra water to combat the extra heat!  :thumb:

after all .. back in the day .. (and still sometimes now) .. the weekend warrior drag racers would put a methanol/water spray into their intake .. the water so it didnt slag anything from extra heat .. so i'm told ... aaaaaand methanol/ethanol are nearly the same word .. so it must be ok... glad i worked that out in my head!!

sits back to wait for the tech war to start  ;)

RossLH

Face, meet palm. :icon_lol:

E10 does not contain water. It contains gasoline, ethanol, and the usual additives. At stoich, ethanol fuels will burn cooler than straight gasoline. Problem is the difference in stoich between gasoline (14.7:1) and pure ethanol, or E100 (9.0078:1). This means the more ethanol the fuel contains, the more fuel you will need in order to achieve stoich. Carburetors will not automatically make this change, which means a change from E0 to E10 will cause your engine to run lean, thus burning hotter.

The cool part about ethanol (no pun intended) is the cooling effect it has if you do use a proper amount of fuel. A cooler mixture and burn means you can advance the timing, which can give you a significant boost in low end grunt and a small increase in top end power.

That said, keep an eye on your plugs to make sure you're not running lean. If you are, a rejet is in order. And when it comes to plugs, a stronger spark should result in a cooler burn, not a hotter burn.

I think that covers everything.

BrianKD

After watching Adidasguy's video review on the Amazon webpage for the spark plugs, I ordered a pair. 

Janx101

mmmmmm yup k.... but it attracts water tho .. so .. cooler... negating the hotter burn.. magic!! ... ta bro! /troll off

seriously though... mebbe the bike was a little rich .. never checked it yet .. on E0 fuel.. not saying it was ... and i cant properly explain it.. but the half tank of e10 i have used so far ... i'm not claiming any more power! ... but ... its less (slightly) sluggish , a little smoother thru the top end .. less grumpy when dead cold .. though it is a little stuttery on half 'choke' once running for 45 ish seconds ..

i'm only just beginning to explore the adjustability of everything engine wise .. not looked the plugs... cleaned the carbs.. jetted anything..

so far its been .. key/choke/starter/warm/chokeoff/ride/fuel/ride/wheeeeeeeee ... oh plus some chain lube here and there .. pretty much ..

think i've owned the bike long enough now to start thinking about what does it need? .. as opposed to what does that do?

some little issues i've sorted out with help from here .. now its time for preventing big issues in the future .. i was only ever gonna own the bike for the time it took to get full licence .. but the bloody money tree had a bad season and half the limbs blew off.... so i better start looking after things "properly"..

still getting the plugs tho ... if they also had led or flashing lights on them.. well i'd already have a set!  :D

adidasguy

#5288
Quote from: GI_JO_NATHAN on August 12, 2012, 03:27:44 PM
Got my plugs in! I'll throw them in in the next day or so.

I didn't realize they would actually look like a normal plug, missing the electrode..
If you hold plugs side by side, you'll see the Brisk electrode sticks out farther. It is at the level of the bottom of the older electrode. So the spark actually is deeper into the chamber than a conventional style plug.

I was a Palouse Winery on my way off Vashon Island and talked to the owner about the plugs. He had told me how Amsoil improves performance (have some, waiting for next oil change to try it). He also swears by Brisk plugs for getting about 3hp better performance. HE compared oil and plugs in his Harleys. He is a pilot and uses them in his plane - but those cost $100 each!

By  the way, I met some other bikers on the ferry who told me of a road I had never taken. WOW! That road was a single lane and just about like a roller coaster. Twistie after twistie, every corned is blind, every corner about 50 feet from the one before it, up down, up down and about 2 miles of this....... and so much fun! Imagine - being in an uphill  hair pin turn - blind - and coming out of it only to see another hairpin turn only this one goes down hill - 50 feet away. That sure keeps you on your toes. After that, the "normal" twisties were like beginner roads. Sure wish someone was there to enjoy it with me. Next time maybe?

Janx101

dont ya just love it when a new and awesome riding road is shown to you.. right in your 'backyard'  :thumb:

adidasguy

#5293

What's around  that bend? You never know until  you get there. Fun!


I recall there was a downhill then an uphill hairpin turn to the left - all in 100 feet! What a blast!

Phil B

Ummm....

lots of fun if it's a one-way road.

Not so much fun if there's a car coming the other way ?

iclrag

Don't you know? in seattle cars are always very curtious and get out of the way for bikers  :whisper:

weedahoe

Gosh.....I just got my shipping info update and read they are coming from Europe? No wonder everyone says they take a while to get them.
2007
K&N Lunchbox
20/62.5/142.5
chromed pegs
R6 shock
89 aluminum knuckle
Lowering links
Bar mirrors w/LEDs
rear LED turns
89 clip ons
Dual Yoshi TRS
Gauge/Indicator LEDs
T- Rex sliders
HID retrofit
GSXR rear sets
Zero Gravity screen
Chrome Katana rims
Bandit hugger
Custom paint
Sonic springs

CrownSeven

Thats what I thought as well.  Then they showed up 3 days later.  :dunno_black:

weedahoe

No worries, my replacement engine hasnt gotten here yet either
2007
K&N Lunchbox
20/62.5/142.5
chromed pegs
R6 shock
89 aluminum knuckle
Lowering links
Bar mirrors w/LEDs
rear LED turns
89 clip ons
Dual Yoshi TRS
Gauge/Indicator LEDs
T- Rex sliders
HID retrofit
GSXR rear sets
Zero Gravity screen
Chrome Katana rims
Bandit hugger
Custom paint
Sonic springs

RossLH

Quote from: weedahoe on August 13, 2012, 02:35:46 PM
No worries, my replacement engine hasnt gotten here yet either

Engine replacements for everyone! :laugh: Mine should be here Wednesday.

iclrag

Quote from: RossLH on August 13, 2012, 02:46:39 PM
Quote from: weedahoe on August 13, 2012, 02:35:46 PM
No worries, my replacement engine hasnt gotten here yet either

Engine replacements for everyone! :laugh: Mine should be here Wednesday.
Can i get an engine replacement? i want a chevy 420 to go inside of my truck (that isn't mine yet)  :icon_mrgreen:

weedahoe

Ill help you put your engine in if you come help me put mine in....LOL

As for bugger engines, my new cam came in last week. Now I gotta find the time to put it in. Super nice lope it will have with a 108 LSA
2007
K&N Lunchbox
20/62.5/142.5
chromed pegs
R6 shock
89 aluminum knuckle
Lowering links
Bar mirrors w/LEDs
rear LED turns
89 clip ons
Dual Yoshi TRS
Gauge/Indicator LEDs
T- Rex sliders
HID retrofit
GSXR rear sets
Zero Gravity screen
Chrome Katana rims
Bandit hugger
Custom paint
Sonic springs

adidasguy

Quote from: weedahoe on August 13, 2012, 01:43:57 PM
Gosh.....I just got my shipping info update and read they are coming from Europe? No wonder everyone says they take a while to get them.
The plugs?
Maybe they're out because of a sudden run on them for us GS500 people?
I've ordered 10 plugs (5 sets) for my bikes (and Trey, not mine now) and a spare set. All came in a few days, but that was before everybody started ordering them.

Invoice might say Europe because that's where the parent company is. Magnum Tuning is their USA office.

#5299

weedahoe

This was in my invoice. Its no big deal to me because like I said, I dont even have an engine to put them in yet


Dear Customer,
Magnum Tuning greatly appreciates your business and the opportunity to sell you this item.

* * * * * SHIPPING * * * * *

•   Items' original location is Europe. We ship these goods in cargo shipping from Magnum factory to our Florida warehouse to ensure US and Canada buyers the quickest delivery.

•   Delivery takes 4 to 14 days to arrive depending on country or state.

•   Magnum is fully responsible for successful delivery.
2007
K&N Lunchbox
20/62.5/142.5
chromed pegs
R6 shock
89 aluminum knuckle
Lowering links
Bar mirrors w/LEDs
rear LED turns
89 clip ons
Dual Yoshi TRS
Gauge/Indicator LEDs
T- Rex sliders
HID retrofit
GSXR rear sets
Zero Gravity screen
Chrome Katana rims
Bandit hugger
Custom paint
Sonic springs

adidasguy

#117
#5301

All my invoices have that. It doesn't mean they do not have them in stock. Got mine in a few days.

They're pretty nice people there at Magnum Tuning. They helped me find a performance plug for Thumper - my old 1973 TS185. Not the same type as for the GS, but still a Brisk performance plug and Thumper is happier now. (Brisk makes a few different styles of plugs.)

weedahoe

2007
K&N Lunchbox
20/62.5/142.5
chromed pegs
R6 shock
89 aluminum knuckle
Lowering links
Bar mirrors w/LEDs
rear LED turns
89 clip ons
Dual Yoshi TRS
Gauge/Indicator LEDs
T- Rex sliders
HID retrofit
GSXR rear sets
Zero Gravity screen
Chrome Katana rims
Bandit hugger
Custom paint
Sonic springs

GI_JO_NATHAN

Yeah I think I got mine in a couple days. Still haven't tried them out. Wife's out of town, so no riding this week (just me and my daughter at the house.)
Jonathan
'04 GS500
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