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Started by jacob92icu, July 02, 2013, 07:59:11 AM

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jacob92icu

Good stuff snake, that's what i like to hear. I don't think i will be adjusting the float heights. If out quirks don't fix it lol
I am into buying bikes that people have given up on and fixing them up!

RIP Patrick Lajko, I miss you man.

RossLH

Quote from: Snake2715 on July 05, 2013, 01:58:45 PMI can tell you for sure the right side (while sitting on bike) float height can be adjust without removing the carbs. I dropped that bowl and adjusted while carbs were installed.. I would imagine left can be done as well.

I have replaced both float needles and seats, as well set the float heights, with the carbs on the bike. It can be done.

Snake2715

Quote from: jacob92icu on July 05, 2013, 02:43:18 PM
Good stuff snake, that's what i like to hear. I don't think i will be adjusting the float heights. If out quirks don't fix it lol

Get em clean, back together and pilot jets adjusted and ride it a bit. A week or so later check plugs, check float height and then synch. Its amazing what in spec valves, and properly tuned carbs will make her feel like.
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jacob92icu

So. I got some good news, and questionable news, and some very very bad news.... So Ill start with the very very bad news.



I did it... I broke the damn brass screw that goes above the middle jet... Hopefully Adidas responds soon, I was really looking forward to putting them back on the bike and riding tonight...

Anyways, the good news is that the carbs are very clean and ready to put together now other than that broken screw... I even blew the same spot out again and 2 more chunks came out. I blew a few more times and called it good.

The questionable news is that when I pulled the screw out for the first time the oring was broken, so I went and bought some new ones but they were thicker and had a smaller hole, so this is the outcome:



I dont know if you can see it but there is some of the oring squishing out over the sides. Is this a bad thing? I was under the impression you just need it to seal. Thanks guys, wish me luck in getting a new screw asap...
I am into buying bikes that people have given up on and fixing them up!

RIP Patrick Lajko, I miss you man.

RossLH

#44
That brass screw is the main jet. You broke the main jet. They're brass, man, you don't need to hulk them down. Also, the jets should not have o-rings--this probably contributed to the breaking of the jet, due to the fewer threads engaged.

Soloratov

#45
The o-ring goes on the bowl itself...around the vacuum hole.

Please, use this for reference.

#10 is the o-ring.
#13 is the pilot
#14 is the main jet
#20 is the mixture screw



adidasguy

He just left the Bike Cave with a bag of carb parts so he should be good to ride in another day.
I didn't have 125 jets but did have new 122.5 jets so he's going with those for now to get back on the road. That 2% different jet size should be OK. They can be changed back to 125 later but for now he has 2 brand new jets to get running. He also got a bag of assorted carb o-ring parts.

RossLH


Snake2715

Quote from: Soloratov on July 05, 2013, 06:45:58 PM
The o-ring goes on the bowl itself...around the vacuum hole.

Please, use this for reference.

#10 is the o-ring.
#13 is the pilot
#14 is the main jet
#20 is the mixture screw



Doesnt 10 go on top of the diaphragm?

Jacob.,

#15 is the one I have seen go bad and get missed.

Make sure the orings are the right size for the #15 as well. They can be had for a few dollars shipped, if your local place cant get them on rockymountainatv.com or bikebandit.com etc

#19 I have seen go bad as well.
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Soloratov

I pointed out the #10 o-ring because that seems to be the easiest one to lose. #15 should come attached...at least mine did.

Snake2715

He wouldn't need to buy a new seat though, just the oring for it.

Or are we not on the same page.

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Soloratov

My seat doesn't have o-rings...where do they go!? Sorry...

I was just assuming since the ones he had were too small, they may have been the #10, very well could be wrong though. Sounds like Adidas got him squared away. Hopefully it'll start up, and run nice and smooth!


Snake2715

Quote from: Soloratov on July 05, 2013, 09:48:42 PM
My seat doesn't have o-rings...where do they go!? Sorry...


O Rly? well that's why your shock makes noise then....

:icon_lol:

I guess we should figure that out. I kind of took it for the fact that he just used random orings.. Jacob you do need to make sure any orings you use are the correct ones, some types of orings if just generic off the shelf will not hold up against fuel and will deteriorate.
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jacob92icu

It was not that oring my friend, it was the oring under the main jet. It is running extremely fine. I am very grateful that Adidas gave me all the parts I needed and more! We rejetted it back to stock settings. I set the idle good went on a little ride and its doing fine! So glad. Now, to buy a pistol... or to buy a full Jardine exhaust. Opinions?
I am into buying bikes that people have given up on and fixing them up!

RIP Patrick Lajko, I miss you man.

RossLH

Quote from: jacob92icu on July 06, 2013, 01:30:33 PMIt was not that oring my friend, it was the oring under the main jet.

There is no o-ring under the main jet. Don't put one there.

Snake2715

#55
Quote from: jacob92icu on July 06, 2013, 01:30:33 PM
It was not that oring my friend, it was the oring under the main jet. It is running extremely fine. I am very grateful that Adidas gave me all the parts I needed and more! We rejetted it back to stock settings. I set the idle good went on a little ride and its doing fine! So glad. Now, to buy a pistol... or to buy a full Jardine exhaust. Opinions?


What is the main jet in the diagram above?

I mean what are you calling the main jet where you put this oring? What part #?

The actual main jet  is #14.. look at the diagram no oring goes there.



Is that pic stolen from your other thread where you are talking with the oring? Thats part #16 and is the float needle seat. An oring does go there, yes.

Clarify for us if you would.

Glad to hear its driveable.
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jacob92icu

Yes number 14, the main jet. When i took both mine out they had orings, and the kiss Patrick had have orings, so i think I'll be safe lol
I am into buying bikes that people have given up on and fixing them up!

RIP Patrick Lajko, I miss you man.

RossLH

You're actually not being safe by using o-rings where there shouldn't be o-rings. You're limiting thread engagement by not assembling the carbs how they were designed to be assembled, and you've already broken one jet because of that. Putting o-rings in the jets is doing more harm than good.

Snake2715

That picture of yours I posted above.. that is not number 14. You are aware of that correct?


Otherwise as been said the main jet does not need orings. There is a whole in the jet so think about it what exactly would the oring seal?

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jacob92icu

Yes not that in the picture above lol. Both the main jets I removed had orings that seemed to belong there, so I just replaced them. Im sure it wont hurt anything. But I'm definitely not breaking into them again to take that oring out haha
I am into buying bikes that people have given up on and fixing them up!

RIP Patrick Lajko, I miss you man.

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