revolver slow reload? .. not if you practice enough! ..

i know this has been up before... but 

I was just curious what people think about it. I have been told that they are hard to find, since they have been discontinued. I am by no means a gun expert and  I am not the carry kind.  This one is double action, and this is probably too heavy for conceiled. When I shot one, it felt almost like a .22 very little recoil and very accurate. Probably because it is quite heavy. 

I've seen the reloading go fast. Remember: that is competition. He practices. He has the bullets ready to load and knows where they are. Quite different from pulling your gun out in an emergency, all panicky, trying to find where bullets go in a dark alley.
If for PD, then a quick magazine change in a semi is fast can can't compare to a revolver. press button. As mag falls, be ready and shove the other in. If you have something like a Smith & Wesson M&P, when the mag goes in it automatically releases the slide and loads the first round. Cops need that feature when someone's coming at them.

As for the revolver: mass makes a difference. There are different loads for bullets: light to heavy on the powder and different bullets weights. all that can make a difference in the recoil.

I find the .45 colt has less recoil than the 357 or 38spl. Probably because .45 colts are loaded as "cowboy rounds" - 250 grain bullet and only going 800 fps. That big bullet moving slow will have a slow, long, smooth recoil. Not fast and snappy like the others. Youcan get 357's and 38spl's loaded as cowboy rounds, too.

If going to plink and target practice, get whatever you like. Any gun can be good or bad - depending on if you like it and it fits you. Example: Pietta revolvers are half the cost of a Ruger. Ruger is better. But for plinking, I like the Peitta because the grip is 1/2" longer and fits my hand better. Ruger is a better gun, but not better for me.

Damn coons. What do they get to.... Like 30 pounds?
Super colibri (20gr 500fps) not as good as air gun sending 18gr pellets at 1000fps

awww did someone get offended by the humour and remove all the posts?

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awww did someone get offended by the humour and remove all the posts?

I just noticed something missing.....

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Do you Ausie's have ammo problems or is it so regulated and expensive you don't shoot much?

We can get whatever ammo we need. That's because we don't panic buy and run out supplies 
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Nice dig at Americans...allow me to throw one back:

Americans are afraid of the country becoming like Australia and THAT'S why people ran out and bought everything up. In fact, Australia is a common example used when people make the argument about gun laws and their ineffectiveness.

How can something be a Dig when it is just stating a fact? 

Americans Panic Buy. That's a fact. Period. Beenie Babies. Cabbage Patch Dolls. Ammo. Duct tape. Whatever it is for that moment they do it en masse.

Aussies are too apathetic to do that kind of thing. Seriously, we are. We just couldn't be stuffed.

And Aussies use England (and Washington) as an example of how gun laws do not work....

Pretty sure gun laws do work. Since PM Howard laid stricter gun laws there have been NO gun massacres in Australia. Before those laws they happened every few years.

When speaking of "gun laws", you really need to say what laws you are talking about.
There are all kinds of good and crazy laws.
* Laws for obtaining a gun from a dealer
* Restrictions on felons owning guns
* Limits on magazine capacity
* Waiting periods
* and on and on and on........

A lot of the problems are due to hard times and people reaching the end of what they can handle and  they freak out. No law short of a house to house search to confiscate all guns could prevent that - but no, it wouldn't. People can and do hide extra fire arms because there is fear of government confiscating them. There will always be guns.

What is needed is to help troubled people and to improve the general society so people don't reach their breaking point.

I bet conditions are better down there so people don't see the need to take out their anger by mowing down a bunch of people.

Criminals will always have guns. Criminals buy and sell guns and do not care about any laws or backgroiund checks. Only honest people follow the laws and only honest people will be subject to the restrictions of the laws.

Taking guns away from law abiding citizens is like preventing drunk driving by taking cars away from sober people.

Good point. I'm not against gun ownership altogether however guns for everyone doesn't work in my opinion. There are still guns here, both legal and illegal however nowadays shootings are rarer than they were before those licensing restrictions came in. On the other hand, you just don't need one over here to be safe. Maybe a different story over there.

could just chuck drop bears at them Eh?

Drop bears are very effective against burglars. You don't even have to throw them, they just drop from the ceiling and maul the sh** out of em!

We don't have drop bears. 

Trained kitties will also suffice.

And we have idiots over here, like "Mayors against illegal guns". Heck, even NRA members are against "illegal" guns. The reality is it is a mayor campaign against ALL guns.

Out dumb mayor promotes "Gun Free Zones". Truth is how many mass killings have there been at gun shows where everyone is armed? ZERO! How many killings at places that prohibit guns? Hundreds.

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Quote from: Zookmang on October 11, 2013, 09:21:38 PM
Pretty sure gun laws do work. Since PM Howard laid stricter gun laws there have been NO gun massacres in Australia. Before those laws they happened every few years.

Port Arthur. Now that is a darn odd one that. Not only the speed at which the many thousands of pages of legislation appears in such a short time after the event (almost as if was pre-written just waiting for an event to plug it into) but how New South Wales politician Barry Unsworth's had previously claimed that there would be no effective gun control in Australia until there was a massacre in Tasmania (quite prophetic). There is also an interesting piece by Joe Vialls http://www.whale.to/b/viallspam.html (Seems we have our very own Kennedy/Oswald conspiracy thing going on according to him)

Certainly, no mass shootings Oops. Forgot. Monash university shooting in 2002. Only 2 dead, so maybe that doesn't count as a massacre.  - but it did result in more kneejerk reaction by limiting handgun caliber and mag size (as if a proficient IPSC guy with a half dozen mags on his belt couldn't go ballistic and do more damage than these nutjobs)

But we have had mass murders by Arsonists - Childers backpackers fires which killed 15, Quakers Hill Nursing Home Fire which killed 11. Before the Port Arthur was the Whiskey Au Go Go fire which killed 15 people. And the Hilton Hotel Bombing.

We also had the Greenough Family Massacre where he killed four people with an Axe! And John Sharpe killed his wife, unborn and toddler with a Spear Gun. While Douglas Crabbe drove his truck into a crowded bar and killed 5. As far as I know there are no additional restrictions on owning axes since that event - although - Bunnings Warehouse doesn't sell machetes but cane cutters are fine 

Yes it is true that Suicides in 97 (the year after the new gun laws) had dropped, but overall Suicides had risen by 10%  Also firearm suicides had already been on a downward trend for over a decade before Port Arthur.

Some other interesting info as far as murder goes...

Since 89, the murder rate with a firearm has dropped from 20% to 13% (was already in decline before Port Arthur), while murder by knife has risen from 31% to 40% just in the last decade  . 40% of murders are done by people with a criminal history, alcohol features in 47% of them and drugs in 20%. 25% of murders are by beating. For gun murder, the preferred weapon is a shotgun. While overzealous media coverage of murders (mass or otherwise) often leads to copycat murders.

How do the kiwis handle their guns and laws. You never hear bad shaZam! happen about the kiwis. I think proper gun laws are somewhere between Australia and the US

I personally reckon the current system works. You have a legit reason to have a gun, you can have one once you've been checked out by the cops and finish your waiting period. Maybe knifings have gone up. But you can run from a knife, you can't race the gun. It's not about completely stopping murder, it's about reducing the risk and probability of a maniac getting hold of a gun. There's millions out there.