A 100 or so miles after fixing the car with the shift solenoid relay from the parts car the car wont move in any of the gears. None what so ever.
However a few mins before the thing went kaput, putting it in reverse made it go forward.
That was followed by a breif period of driving forward anaemically before nothing was happening in any of the gear.

OK so what could be the issue here ?
Electronic again I think.

Cool.
Buddha.

fluid? ... torque converter gone ptui? ... loose shift linkages/rods making the solenoid get confused for positioning?

This is why I drive manuals. LOL

Maybe Adidas can borrow you one of his mechanics...



Sorry, can't help you, mostly manual cars around here...

Quote from: Janx101 on December 02, 2013, 09:16:31 PM
fluid? ... torque converter gone ptui? ... loose shift linkages/rods making the solenoid get confused for positioning?

I'm thinking its electronic ... the original issue was that relay ... maybe that was one part of the problem ...
Cool.
Buddha.

Does it sound like it's trying to go into gear at all when you try to shift? If not, it could be the solenoid itself.

Quote from: JAS6377 on December 03, 2013, 10:07:53 AM
Does it sound like it's trying to go into gear at all when you try to shift? If not, it could be the solenoid itself.

I only got panicked shreiking whenever the car did anything a bit wrong ... the wife was driving it when it happened - as always.
I think she's trying to kill it, and when it does oblige she panics ...

I will know when I retreive it and hook up the OBD contraption up etc etc.

Cool.
Buddha.

And the "dead" transmission - which before going "dead" went forward in reverse - about 20 mins ago went into reverese when you put it in Reverse, and backed up a few feet ...

Cool.
Buddha

Yeah, it sounds like a malfunctioning solenoid. Any codes yet?

Quote from: JAS6377 on December 04, 2013, 11:38:10 AM
Yeah, it sounds like a malfunctioning solenoid. Any codes yet?

Its got 5 solenoids ... I will have to get it home first ... I am pretty sure its either the control module for solenoids or one of the solenoids itself.
Cool.
Buddha.

put a gstwin sticker on it.

Quote from: The Buddha on December 03, 2013, 08:18:32 AM

Quote from: Janx101 on December 02, 2013, 09:16:31 PM
fluid? ... torque converter gone ptui? ... loose shift linkages/rods making the solenoid get confused for positioning?

I'm thinking its electronic ... the original issue was that relay ... maybe that was one part of the problem ...
Cool.
Buddha.

if its like my fwd Chryslers of times past, ( 2 intrepids, 1 lebaron convertible all having shifting problems, id stop car, put in park, shut car off, cycle key, restart and usually problem corrected itself or at least allowed me to get closer to home.

Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on December 04, 2013, 11:27:25 PM

Quote from: The Buddha on December 03, 2013, 08:18:32 AM

Quote from: Janx101 on December 02, 2013, 09:16:31 PM
fluid? ... torque converter gone ptui? ... loose shift linkages/rods making the solenoid get confused for positioning?

I'm thinking its electronic ... the original issue was that relay ... maybe that was one part of the problem ...
Cool.
Buddha.

if its like my fwd Chryslers of times past, ( 2 intrepids, 1 lebaron convertible all having shifting problems, id stop car, put in park, shut car off, cycle key, restart and usually problem corrected itself or at least allowed me to get closer to home.

The Lebaron I had the tranny was changed @ 105k before I got it out of a 3.3 minivan, and it naver gave me a blip of trouble.
The other cars you have had - 2 intrepids are FWD but longitudinal V6 right ? Those are famous for mechanical trouble in the tranny.
There are a few 2.7 chrysler motors that had the F4A51 mitsu tranny ... I have to find some of those in the Junkyard and yank a tranny.

Cool.
Buddha.

Quote from: The Buddha on December 05, 2013, 05:57:40 AM

The Lebaron I had the tranny was changed @ 105k before I got it out of a 3.3 minivan, and it naver gave me a blip of trouble.
The other cars you have had - 2 intrepids are FWD but longitudinal V6 right ? Those are famous for mechanical trouble in the tranny.
There are a few 2.7 chrysler motors that had the F4A51 mitsu tranny ... I have to find some of those in the Junkyard and yank a tranny.

Cool.
Buddha.

I think you're referring to the Chrysler cloud cars. The Stratus and Sebring coupe both came with the Mitsubishi 2.4L or 3.0L motors. Those would probably be your best bet. The ones that use the Chrysler motors (2.4 and 2.7) are the Stratus and Sebring sedan and Sebring convertible, and they use the Chrysler 41TE automatic.

Edit: Unless the older generations came with a Mitsubishi tranny. I just know about the second gens.

The 3.0 sebring/stratus had F4A51 tranny, except someone told me the ratio's are different in those and the computer wont accept it ...
However someone else told me last month, housing is different ... like wth ? make up your minds tranny repair guys
Cool.
Buddha.

I'll look into it some more when I get home. It wouldn't surprise me if they used a different bolt pattern.

Quote from: The Buddha on December 05, 2013, 05:57:40 AM

Quote from: yamahonkawazuki on December 04, 2013, 11:27:25 PM

Quote from: The Buddha on December 03, 2013, 08:18:32 AM

Quote from: Janx101 on December 02, 2013, 09:16:31 PM
fluid? ... torque converter gone ptui? ... loose shift linkages/rods making the solenoid get confused for positioning?

I'm thinking its electronic ... the original issue was that relay ... maybe that was one part of the problem ...
Cool.
Buddha.

if its like my fwd Chryslers of times past, ( 2 intrepids, 1 lebaron convertible all having shifting problems, id stop car, put in park, shut car off, cycle key, restart and usually problem corrected itself or at least allowed me to get closer to home.

The Lebaron I had the tranny was changed @ 105k before I got it out of a 3.3 minivan, and it naver gave me a blip of trouble.
The other cars you have had - 2 intrepids are FWD but longitudinal V6 right ? Those are famous for mechanical trouble in the tranny.
There are a few 2.7 chrysler motors that had the F4A51 mitsu tranny ... I have to find some of those in the Junkyard and yank a tranny.

Cool.
Buddha.

yup FWD, but longitudinal . a PITA to change water pump.

That's part of the reason they're all in the junk yards. The pre-2005 2.7 had major issues with the water pump seals, which would cause the oil to sludge up and destroy the motor. The extremely tiny oil passages didn't help, either.

Quote from: JAS6377 on December 05, 2013, 12:38:38 PM
I'll look into it some more when I get home. It wouldn't surprise me if they used a different bolt pattern.

Oooo The guy who swears internals are different said it will bolt up 100% for sure ... That guy used gmc kimmy to chevy blazer and was some weird 4 wd to 2 wd confusion thrown in ...

The guy who said it may not bolt up said gears are the same.

Cool.
Buddha.

  ... better concept!!! .. 

.. get rid of the Diamante .... then if you really want to stick with Mister Bishi ... pickup a Mitsu GTO, Mitsu 3000GT or maybe a Mitsu EVO VIII .. !!! 

they may still have some issues here and there... but the local performance tuner crowd would be able to all help you out