News:

The simplest way to help GStwin is to use this Amazon link to shop

Main Menu

Pilot air screw on 04+

Started by dkidd2004, December 25, 2013, 10:26:16 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

dkidd2004

Hi

Bit confused as i'm rejetting from this guide

http://www.angelfire.com/mt2/mikesgs500/rejetting/

Problem is i have an 04+ GS

In the following picture is the pilot air screw the screw on the far right of the carb (just below the hose), or is it below that brass cap?



Cheers
Dan

dinkydonuts


dkidd2004

Thankyou!

Going from the tutorial it mentioned having to drill out a brass cap, however that tutorial seems to be using an older carb

Just wanted to make sure before i start doing things that can't be undone

radodrill

The exposed screw is indeed the idle/mixture screw you'll need to adjust ;)  You can see the round area at the center from a drill bit when the cap was removed
2009 GS500F
K&N Drop-in - no restrictor
Vance & Hines can on swedged stock headers
HID projector
Balu-Racing undertail
Flush-mount turn signals
Blue underglow
Twin-tone air horn
22.5/62.5/147.5 Jets 1 washer 3.5 turns

dinkydonuts

Quote from: dkidd2004 on December 25, 2013, 11:45:17 PM
Thankyou!

Going from the tutorial it mentioned having to drill out a brass cap, however that tutorial seems to be using an older carb

Just wanted to make sure before i start doing things that can't be undone

The EPA cap is the one that has to be drilled out. It provides additional adjustment for idle, but for the US market was deemed to be so evil that it had to come with a brass cap so it can't be tampered with.


dkidd2004

#5
So i still need to drill that out? the guide only makes mention of the one screw to be adjusted after a rejet, what does the second do/ when do i start adjusting that and to what level?

radodrill

My bike (US model GS500F) had that brass cap as well as a brass cap (with a 1mm hole through it) over the idle/mixture screw that's uncovered in your pic.  I only removed the cap that's already been removed from your carbs and that's the screw I've been using to adjust the idle mixture.

Note: this technically isn't a pilot air screw but rather the pilot mixture screw as it meters the A/F mix leaving the pilot circuit rather than metering the air entering the pilot circuit.
2009 GS500F
K&N Drop-in - no restrictor
Vance & Hines can on swedged stock headers
HID projector
Balu-Racing undertail
Flush-mount turn signals
Blue underglow
Twin-tone air horn
22.5/62.5/147.5 Jets 1 washer 3.5 turns

Suzuki Stevo

Your EPA Plugs are already gone...NO MORE DRILLING required on your part, here is a photo that still has the plugs in place.
The fact that you ended your post with "Cheers" makes me think you live somewhere that your bike probably never had them in the first place  :whisper:

I Ride: at a speed that allows me to ride again tomorrow AN400K7, 2016 TW200, Boulevard M50, 2018 Indian Scout, 2018 Indian Chieftain Classic

radodrill

Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on December 26, 2013, 11:38:36 AMthat your bike probably never had them in the first place  :whisper:

Or a PO already drilled them out; looking at his mixture screw there is ~1/8" dia round area at the center as though a drill did that after drilling through the plug ;)
2009 GS500F
K&N Drop-in - no restrictor
Vance & Hines can on swedged stock headers
HID projector
Balu-Racing undertail
Flush-mount turn signals
Blue underglow
Twin-tone air horn
22.5/62.5/147.5 Jets 1 washer 3.5 turns

Suzuki Stevo

I Ride: at a speed that allows me to ride again tomorrow AN400K7, 2016 TW200, Boulevard M50, 2018 Indian Scout, 2018 Indian Chieftain Classic

gsJack

407,400 miles in 30 years for 13,580 miles/year average.  Started riding 7/21/84 and hung up helmet 8/31/14.

dkidd2004

Haha, Yes, i'm Aussie. Honestly never thought i'd get called out ending a post with "cheers" :)

I should have mentioned that isn't my pic, although my carbs are the exact same (even down to those screws already being exposed). It's from another user here, just thought i'd use it as it was far better than a phone camera pic that i snapped.

Thanks for the replies too! working off the already exposed screws i can happily say i have rejetted my bike, just needs a little fine tuning (she backfired on me once), although my tach isn't showing on my Koso gauge so i have some problem solving to do before finishing the mixture screws off.

Thanks again, you guys are probably getting tired of Carb questions by now.

Here is a quick snap of the bike (i'll update my build thread too)


Suzuki Stevo

Sorry for going all "Nancy Drew" in this thread   :cheers:  <cheers:lolz
I Ride: at a speed that allows me to ride again tomorrow AN400K7, 2016 TW200, Boulevard M50, 2018 Indian Scout, 2018 Indian Chieftain Classic

dkidd2004

Haha, no worries  :thumb:

Thanks again for the info, saved me doing more harm than good :)

radodrill

What jetting are you going with?
2009 GS500F
K&N Drop-in - no restrictor
Vance & Hines can on swedged stock headers
HID projector
Balu-Racing undertail
Flush-mount turn signals
Blue underglow
Twin-tone air horn
22.5/62.5/147.5 Jets 1 washer 3.5 turns

dkidd2004

Went with 147.5 mains, 20 pilots, 65 mids and one washer under the needle

Got this from Buddha, it's to go with a new exhaust and K&N lunchbox

radodrill

That's probably about right; I'm running stock exhaust and K&N drop-in and went with 20/60/142.5 1 washer.  I might be getting a Yosh pipe to go with it so then I'll probably be re-tuning the jetting.
2009 GS500F
K&N Drop-in - no restrictor
Vance & Hines can on swedged stock headers
HID projector
Balu-Racing undertail
Flush-mount turn signals
Blue underglow
Twin-tone air horn
22.5/62.5/147.5 Jets 1 washer 3.5 turns

dkidd2004

The only issue i had with starting it after the rejet and install was stupidity on my part, i left the cables off of the plugs  :embarrassed:

After that hiccup, she has started and idled fine, haven't tuned the mix properly yet but seems to be running well.

Heading away for a weekend camping, so i'm happy she's at least started fine, no more garage time till monday now :( Hoping to be able to ride monday afternoon, still need to set up the gsxr rearsets (and the rear brake), reattatch the front brake, torque a few bolts and sort out my indicators, tail light and licence plate mounting. So close to finishing my build now, can't wait

radodrill

I had initially tried a 62.5 mid-main and found that the idle was a bit rich and was a bit jerky on the transition fro closed to slight throttle.  Adjusting the mixture didn't help much, so I tried slightly smaller pilots, which made it idle poorly.  Finally decided to go with one size smaller mid-main and that got it running perfectly.
2009 GS500F
K&N Drop-in - no restrictor
Vance & Hines can on swedged stock headers
HID projector
Balu-Racing undertail
Flush-mount turn signals
Blue underglow
Twin-tone air horn
22.5/62.5/147.5 Jets 1 washer 3.5 turns

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk