^^ HAHA that's pretty funny, but also pretty sad..

I've been itching to take my pistol back out for some more practice, i could use it. Unfortunately its dark outside before I get off work at 5pm. Wish there was an indoor range closer to me

Fire and damage test showing safety of ammunition.
So all that "hazardous fees" and restrictions are really fear and bull dung.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SlOXowwC4c&feature=player_embedded

That man has the most valid point. Specially given the latest mass shooting this morning

...using a Joe Biden approved shot gun.
Now watch the news to see how many times they call it an AK-47, AR-15, "assault rifle" or other scare terms.
More people die from falling down than guns. More from drowning or choking and the leader is cars.

All I can say is the trusty GS will be getting a lot more miles this coming summer as my trips to PA for ammo become necessary. These insane "gun control" laws here in NY are about to make it impossible to get ammo. Already lost about 20 firearm related companies in the Rochester area alone because of it.

IMHO the NYSAFE legislation is at least a step in the right direction. One unexpected but rather pleasant result has been a commercial decision by a weapons supplier to prevent city police getting their hands on stuff like this:

http://www.tactical-life.com/magazines/tactical-weapons/serbu-firearms-bfg-50a/

Can you imagine that going off when your Mum or your Dad or your wife or your kids or Auntie Ethel were in the neighbourhood? Oh, I see, the city finest need it in case they want to stop a truck or someone is holed up in a building...completely understandable, not. Next thing, the boys in blue will be chasing racoons or possums  or hippies around the 'burbs with this piece of kit. All mad.

Step in the right direction  ...not a single piece of that law outside the mental health portion does anything that relates AT ALL to reducing the misuse of firearms.

Quote from: noworries on December 29, 2013, 04:53:28 PM
"prevent city police getting their hands on stuff like this"

Do you really have that little amount of faith in the police that they would be running around neighborhoods shooting a .50 bmg? One of the safety rules in shooting is "knowing your target and what lies beyond". Shooting a .50 cal at a person would go right through them causing potential collateral damage/accidental injury to others, that is why it would be a poor weapon choice for local SWAT/Designated Marksmen. I live in Indiana, the gun shop down the street has 4 .50 bmg rifles in stock and for sale. Any Indiana resident over 18 that passes the NICS background check can buy one and walk out the door with it. My point? The retarded gun laws only serve to inconvenience the law abiding gun owners and have little to no effect on "crime". Why? The guns used in most of the violent crimes in the b.s statistics weren't legally purchased at gun shops.

Quote from: noworries on December 29, 2013, 04:53:28 PMCan you imagine that going off when your Mum or your Dad or your wife or your kids or Auntie Ethel were in the neighbourhood?

Going off? Are you still talking about guns or did you switch the topic to car bombs? Guns don't just "go off", the triggers are intentionally pulled and is the responsibility of the person who pulled the trigger. People are the problem, not guns... but who the hell needs a gun to kill people? Psychos will find other ways to do it. Saw this on the local news the other day, maybe I need go outside Home Depot and protest the sales of hammers in my community.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/12/27/prosecutors-teen-cut-off-mans-head-as-christmas-present-to-aunt/

Quote from: kyled25 on December 29, 2013, 09:19:19 PM
Why? The guns used in most of the violent crimes in the b.s statistics weren't legally purchased at gun shops.

Thank you!! This seems to be something that all the gun control advocates just glaze over! I'm not allowed to carry over 7 rounds in my magazine anymore because of this stupid law. I'm not allowed to own a magazine that can hold more than 10. Well, I certainly hope that the guy down the street killing a rival gang member remembers this, or the person who decides to rob a store at gun point made sure he unloaded his over-capacity magazine. I'd hate to think these criminals aren't following the law.  I know that guns are NEVER stolen, or sold illegally on the street, so all these back ground checks and ammo caps makes sense.  (I really hope sarcasm is evident in this whole thing)

I can own a semi auto .223 rifle, with scope, bipod and all the magazines I want...but OMG! You put a pistol grip on it...if it's an AR style and not a "hunting rifle", then woah, watch out, we got a crazed lunatic here. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE!!!! 

Sorry, I apologize. Ignorance and willful stupidity make me angry.

Go (v. inf.) off+gun?...if it's OK for 50 Cents' lexicon... it's OK by me...or would ya like to argue the vocabulary point with NY street language expert Mr Jackson?

Quote from: noworries on December 30, 2013, 05:09:32 AM
Go (v. inf.) off+gun?...if it's OK for 50 Cents' lexicon... it's OK by me...or would ya like to argue the vocabulary point with NY street language expert Mr Jackson?

Hahahaha, great point dipsh.it. One idiot quotes another as means to try to win an argument. NY street language expert? You mean talk like an uneducated as.shole? Oh wait thats not true, he did receive his prestigious GED while serving a prison sentence. Putting "Mr." in front of his name doesn't make him a respectable person. Successful... yes... respectable... no. He's a selfish prick who's made millions off of America's ignorant youth by polluting their minds with bullsh.it "music" talent and lyrics. I use the word "music" loosely, as his vocal talent is mediocre and he doesn't play any actual instrument in his songs, but he's a "lyrical genius" because he can rhyme words together... wow I'm impressed. At least he has great values, as displayed by his album titled "Get rich or die trying", songs such as "High all the time", "I get Money", "P.I.M.P", and "Fully Loaded Clip"... didn't know modern day shoot outs occurred with wwII weapons. But hey he's from the streets and a bada.ss because he's been shot XX amount of times and still alive right? No, the badas.ses are the people with actual talent that saved his sorry life, without them he'd be dead in the street years ago.

It was a good point, wasn't it. Jackson not only understands contemporary NY language but conditions that language and it's evolving vocabulary set. Neat, eh? So, gun goes off, gun went off, gun go off....all quite acceptable usage.

I see that you're not too much in love with 50 Cent's music. Ah well....

Quote from: noworries on December 30, 2013, 03:47:40 PM
So, gun goes off, gun went off, gun go off....all quite acceptable usage.

No, not acceptable uses. Those statements assign no responsibility to who pulled the trigger. All it does is demonize an inanimate object. It's a phrase used by people who don't know sh*t about guns. You justify your use of the phrase by referring to a criminal rapper who can not even legally own a gun does not help your cause.

I dunno guys, cars are just as likely to run over innocent pedestrians without a driver....just like knives tend to slip into body cavities when they fly off a shelf randomly.

Shoot - whoops, can't keep away from that old gun originating vocabulary - Chicago hammer murder and that Alexis Valdez boy? Tragic, eh, and that must be the same city and the same week that had 8 shooting murders as well?  And all coming up to Christmas and the season of Good Cheer. Dang me, those hammers sure are dangerous.

Chicago eh? So now you want to use a city that has THE STRICTEST gun laws in the country as defense for more gun control? Not sure how that logic will follow through. Oh look, in a city where the laws make the safe act look mild there were 8 shootings in a week. I'm thinking you just ruined your own argument, and proved ours.

i propose the legalization and taxation of all street drugs, with the DEA now being the drug dealers. Good bye gangs and gun violence, hello debt free america. 

On a more positive note, anyone here have a Mosin? Looking to see how the scope mounts for them work. Key is, the one I have does not have the bent bolt lever, so that's why I am curious.