Oui, monsieur. Dot over stem.

I used the Ziptie method... It was so rediculously easy i stood there somewhat dumbfounded after I put it on.. like Wow..

AS for balancing... idk... Last summer i put 14,000 miles on my fz6 changed both tires at the begining of the season, and rear about mid way through (Dunlop Q2's dont last all that long). and i never balanced a one of them. Never had any vibrations.. Same goes for the Pirelli Angels on my friends buell 1125r, as well as another rear tire on another friends fzr6.

Quote from: The_Paragon on March 28, 2014, 10:41:13 AM
I used the Ziptie method... It was so rediculously easy i stood there somewhat dumbfounded after I put it on.. like Wow..

AS for balancing... idk... Last summer i put 14,000 miles on my fz6 changed both tires at the begining of the season, and rear about mid way through (Dunlop Q2's dont last all that long). and i never balanced a one of them. Never had any vibrations.. Same goes for the Pirelli Angels on my friends buell 1125r, as well as another rear tire on another friends fzr6.

you did that on the GS or on the FZR? I can see how it might be easy on some rims, but on the GS it didnt work for me at all. Perhaps that tire was too stiff @ 40f? Anyhow, I stick with spoons 

Quote from: The_Paragon on March 28, 2014, 10:41:13 AM
I used the Ziptie method... It was so rediculously easy i stood there somewhat dumbfounded after I put it on.. like Wow..

AS for balancing... idk... Last summer i put 14,000 miles on my fz6 changed both tires at the begining of the season, and rear about mid way through (Dunlop Q2's dont last all that long). and i never balanced a one of them. Never had any vibrations.. Same goes for the Pirelli Angels on my friends buell 1125r, as well as another rear tire on another friends fzr6.

didn't have zipties so created my own method. I used a padded vicegrip and a bunch of shoestrings. It took about 1 minute to get the tire on with my method

NEWBIE

Many say that balancing in totally unnecessary for motorcycles, unless you go really fast!


Cookie

Quote from: The_Paragon on March 28, 2014, 10:41:13 AM
I used the Ziptie method... It was so ridiculously easy i stood there somewhat dumbfounded after I put it on.. like Wow..

AS for balancing... idk... Last summer i put 14,000 miles on my fz6 changed both tires at the begining of the season, and rear about mid way through (Dunlop Q2's dont last all that long). and i never balanced a one of them. Never had any vibrations.. Same goes for the Pirelli Angels on my friends buell 1125r, as well as another rear tire on another friends fzr6.

Quote from: twocool on March 28, 2014, 05:33:47 PM
Many say that balancing in totally unnecessary for motorcycles, unless you go really fast!


Cookie

Quote from: The_Paragon on March 28, 2014, 10:41:13 AM
I used the Ziptie method... It was so ridiculously easy i stood there somewhat dumbfounded after I put it on.. like Wow..

AS for balancing... idk... Last summer i put 14,000 miles on my fz6 changed both tires at the begining of the season, and rear about mid way through (Dunlop Q2's dont last all that long). and i never balanced a one of them. Never had any vibrations.. Same goes for the Pirelli Angels on my friends buell 1125r, as well as another rear tire on another friends fzr6.

would you recommend not balancing a tire though?

NEWBIE

I mounted my own tires for years and never balanced them.  Good tires don't need much lead, the weights on them are mostly for the cast wheels.  Never had a problem with them but never went much over 70 mph on the 4 old Hondas I mounted my own on.  Only went 100 mph on a GS and that was after I quit doing my own and it had good radials mounted and balanced on it.  Can't say how you'd do with unbalanced tires at the higher speeds.

The guy at my dealership says that with motorcycles you're mostly balancing the rim rather than the tire; as such he generally leaves the weights as is and check the balance with the new tire and only makes changes as needed.  He also said that generally if it's off by less than 3 oz you won't even feel it.

My front wheel was perfectly balanced without any weights on it.  The rear had a weight on it from the factory and was off by 1 oz; with it removed it was still off by an oz (probably different spot), so he just added that oz to get it perfectly balanced.

I got my tire back on the rim. I have no weights to balance them Im just wondering if I absolutely need to balance them. The fastest I've every gone is 90 and that was with dry rotted factory tires

NEWBIE

I would neither recommend nor not recommend....I'm just saying that many, many experts say it is unnecessary.


I like doing stuff myself.   I like doing cool stuff on the cheap.   As I mentioned, I made my own balancer from crap in the garage for $0....2x4's and roller blade wheel bearings.....

So I balance my wheels whether they need it or not...

BTW....I just had 4 tires put on my car...had the local vo-tech auto school do it for free....they didn't balance the tires....car rides great...not worried...

Cookie

Quote from: newbie1993 on March 28, 2014, 05:35:01 PM

Quote from: twocool on March 28, 2014, 05:33:47 PM
Many say that balancing in totally unnecessary for motorcycles, unless you go really fast!


Cookie

Quote from: The_Paragon on March 28, 2014, 10:41:13 AM
I used the Ziptie method... It was so ridiculously easy i stood there somewhat dumbfounded after I put it on.. like Wow..

AS for balancing... idk... Last summer i put 14,000 miles on my fz6 changed both tires at the begining of the season, and rear about mid way through (Dunlop Q2's dont last all that long). and i never balanced a one of them. Never had any vibrations.. Same goes for the Pirelli Angels on my friends buell 1125r, as well as another rear tire on another friends fzr6.

would you recommend not balancing a tire though?

NEWBIE

Tire is on the rim, bead is seated and the tire is aired up to 41 psi as the instructions say

NEWBIE

I'm gonna take pictures of my rear sprocket so I can get your opinion on whether its time to replace it. If not im just gonna replace the rear tire and then it's on to the next project

NEWBIE

Quote from: newbie1993 on March 28, 2014, 07:44:23 PM
I got my tire back on the rim. I have no weights to balance them Im just wondering if I absolutely need to balance them. The fastest I've every gone is 90 and that was with dry rotted factory tires

NEWBIE

3 bucks for 20 weights @ harbor freight. this takes all about 5 minutes

on my daily rider they fell off within a week of the shop mounting them in 2010, i got
slightly more vibration when riding over 70mph. at 85-100 mph the bike vibrated a lot
to the point where my hand fell asleep. However i hardly ever went over 70-75

haven't lost one of the HF wheel weights yet. last wheel needed one weight only, guess where,
exactly where the old one was... replaced a metzler with a duro, so must really be the rim

hey newbie, you didnt happen to get that tyre off of ebay did you? i was about to buy Bridgestone bt-45s on ebay and somone beat me to it haha

To balance my tires I have a rod that I place between two screws in the support beams in my garage, levelled. Place the wheel bearings on the rod and set it between the beams. Spin the tire a couple of times and let it rotate until it stops. The highest point is where it is lightest. Try it a couple of times to make sure you have the spot in the right place.

Place a weight temporarily at the high spot, spin it again. If the weight stops between 45 and 135 degrees from vertical then you are good. Too much weight more than 135 degrees, to little less than 45 degrees, add or reduce weight until it stops in the 45-135 range.

Now add a second weight it necessary at the top again. This weight will be smaller than the first, start with about half the weight you used on the first step. Spin the wheel again a let it stop. If it stops at random points you are finished. If not then increase or reduce the weight of the second weight until it stops at random points.

Properly balanced motorcycle wheels require no more than two weights with the second weight being between 45 to 135 dergrees from the first weight. Sometimes one weight will do it.

Your objective is to have  the wheel-tire assembly stopping at random points (never in the same place) on the last check after the last weight install, with no more than two weights total and those two weights separated by no more than 135 degrees of the circumference of the wheel-tire assembly.

regards
Mech