How much does an i phone cost....or android..or smart phone...and what is the monthly fee?

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Quote from: ohgood on June 08, 2014, 03:28:06 AM

Quote from: Erika on June 06, 2014, 06:44:01 AM
I was thinking about getting a gps unit or maybe just using an iphone app. I've never owned a gps so I don't have a clue on where to start for something motorcycle-friendly. It would be cool if there were one that worked with gloves on. What are you all using these days?

software:
iphone = motionx
android = Locus Pro (or free, just fewer nice things like auto-zoom to speed), Sygic, Osmand+

the android options i listed work completely offline, no cellular data required, download a state wide VECTOR map which is tiny and highly detailed for free, right in the application

hardware:
ram mount
dry bag + velcro (about 10,000 miles this way, no issues)
otterbox
whoever, it's an iphone, EVERYONE makes waterproof enclosures for it

wiring:
KISS, it's just a plug, get it at walmart or spend a gazillion dollars, it's still only going to charge the phone




gps vs phone:
phone = always up to date, always available, different applications if you hate the way one works, just use a different app
gps = ancient, archaic, odd, small screens, expensive as hell, very few import/export options for sharing tracks/routes/waypoints/MAPS with friends

i'm surprised anyone still buys a standalone gps when locus does so much more so much better.

Ok...I find answer myself...

How Much Does an iPhone Cost?  $2000 to $3000 or more!!

Here's the breakdown of the total iPhone price over a new or upgrade-eligible two-year AT&T, Sprint, or Verizon contract (not including overages, tax, or additional charges).
     Phone    Monthly    Two-Year Contract    Total
Cheapest    $199    AT&T: $59.99/month
450 minute plan-$39.99 +300 MB data plan-$20+1,500 texts: $15    

$1,799.76    $1,998.76

Most Expensive    $399    Verizon: $140/month
Unlimited calling $40 +10 GB data $100 +unlimited text messages $0    

$3,360.00    $3,759.00


This is why you buy stand alone GPS for $100


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Quote from: twocool on June 08, 2014, 05:46:11 PM


How much does an i phone cost....or android..or smart phone...and what is the monthly fee?

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Quote from: ohgood on June 08, 2014, 03:28:06 AM

Quote from: Erika on June 06, 2014, 06:44:01 AM
I was thinking about getting a gps unit or maybe just using an iphone app. I've never owned a gps so I don't have a clue on where to start for something motorcycle-friendly. It would be cool if there were one that worked with gloves on. What are you all using these days?

software:
iphone = motionx
android = Locus Pro (or free, just fewer nice things like auto-zoom to speed), Sygic, Osmand+

the android options i listed work completely offline, no cellular data required, download a state wide VECTOR map which is tiny and highly detailed for free, right in the application

hardware:
ram mount
dry bag + velcro (about 10,000 miles this way, no issues)
otterbox
whoever, it's an iphone, EVERYONE makes waterproof enclosures for it

wiring:
KISS, it's just a plug, get it at walmart or spend a gazillion dollars, it's still only going to charge the phone




gps vs phone:
phone = always up to date, always available, different applications if you hate the way one works, just use a different app
gps = ancient, archaic, odd, small screens, expensive as hell, very few import/export options for sharing tracks/routes/waypoints/MAPS with friends

i'm surprised anyone still buys a standalone gps when locus does so much more so much better.

It's more likely an either/or scenario.

If you already have an iPhone/Android phone, why would you additionally purchase a GPS?

On the other hand, twocool is right. Why buy an iPhone/Android smartphone solely for the GPS? If that's the only feature you want, there are far less expensive methods of obtaining it.


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Exactly!

For the price of an i phone and service, I'd rather buy another GS500!!!

I have no need for an i phone, no desire for an i phone...

For phone calls...I use a phone...cheap ass cell that costs $20 a month

For computer crap...I have computer...

For GPS...I have cheap ass GPS on motorcycle..

another cheap ass GPS in car...

In airplane I use Nook...$80...and hack operating system and install freeware... GPS, moving map, flight computer...

Really hard for me to justify $3000 little box...that is mostly used as a toy....


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Quote from: jdoorn14 on June 09, 2014, 05:52:40 AM
It's more likely an either/or scenario.

If you already have an iPhone/Android phone, why would you additionally purchase a GPS?

On the other hand, twocool is right. Why buy an iPhone/Android smartphone solely for the GPS? If that's the only feature you want, there are far less expensive methods of obtaining it.


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I still have a stupid fone....who needs the internet on a little screen 

EDIT: Almost forgot....HEY YOU KIDS GET OFF OF MY LAWN!!

I got an iPhone from work (so it costs me $0.00) and I use it for many things, including checking the traffic on Google Maps or Waze before I hit the road. But when I'm on the road, especially waiting on a red light in some sketchy neighborhood, I don't want my phone exposed to a grab-n-go. A standalone GPS is cheap, and even more so when you get a used one. I reapeat - got my 4" Garmin for $25 on Craigslist (with all attachments). If somebody takes it (either when I'm stopped, or if I ever forget and leave it on the bike), or if it gets wet - I won't cry.

My rationale for using a dedicated GPS in the car is different. First of all - I got my GPS before I got my first smartphone, second - I can always use my phone while the GPS is still on and showing me directions.

Everybody likes something else. Same with using different power outlets. I like 12V cigarette + USB. Others like other solutions. It's all good as long it gets the job done

Quote from: twocool on June 09, 2014, 03:47:11 AM
Ok...I find answer myself...

How Much Does an iPhone Cost?  $2000 to $3000 or more!!

Here's the breakdown of the total iPhone price over a new or upgrade-eligible two-year AT&T, Sprint, or Verizon contract (not including overages, tax, or additional charges).
  Phone Monthly Two-Year Contract Total
Cheapest $199 AT&T: $59.99/month
450 minute plan-$39.99 +300 MB data plan-$20+1,500 texts: $15

$1,799.76    $1,998.76

Most Expensive $399 Verizon: $140/month
Unlimited calling $40 +10 GB data $100 +unlimited text messages $0

$3,360.00 $3,759.00


This is why you buy stand alone GPS for $100


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Quote from: twocool on June 08, 2014, 05:46:11 PM


How much does an i phone cost....or android..or smart phone...and what is the monthly fee?

Cookie

Quote from: ohgood on June 08, 2014, 03:28:06 AM

Quote from: Erika on June 06, 2014, 06:44:01 AM
I was thinking about getting a gps unit or maybe just using an iphone app. I've never owned a gps so I don't have a clue on where to start for something motorcycle-friendly. It would be cool if there were one that worked with gloves on. What are you all using these days?

software:
iphone = motionx
android = Locus Pro (or free, just fewer nice things like auto-zoom to speed), Sygic, Osmand+

the android options i listed work completely offline, no cellular data required, download a state wide VECTOR map which is tiny and highly detailed for free, right in the application

hardware:
ram mount
dry bag + velcro (about 10,000 miles this way, no issues)
otterbox
whoever, it's an iphone, EVERYONE makes waterproof enclosures for it

wiring:
KISS, it's just a plug, get it at walmart or spend a gazillion dollars, it's still only going to charge the phone




gps vs phone:
phone = always up to date, always available, different applications if you hate the way one works, just use a different app
gps = ancient, archaic, odd, small screens, expensive as hell, very few import/export options for sharing tracks/routes/waypoints/MAPS with friends

i'm surprised anyone still buys a standalone gps when locus does so much more so much better.

Craigslist, $150

And the cost of service plan??

Quote from: ohgood on June 10, 2014, 01:11:06 PM

Quote from: twocool on June 09, 2014, 03:47:11 AM
Ok...I find answer myself...

How Much Does an iPhone Cost?  $2000 to $3000 or more!!

Here's the breakdown of the total iPhone price over a new or upgrade-eligible two-year AT&T, Sprint, or Verizon contract (not including overages, tax, or additional charges).
  Phone Monthly Two-Year Contract Total
Cheapest $199 AT&T: $59.99/month
450 minute plan-$39.99 +300 MB data plan-$20+1,500 texts: $15

$1,799.76    $1,998.76

Most Expensive $399 Verizon: $140/month
Unlimited calling $40 +10 GB data $100 +unlimited text messages $0

$3,360.00 $3,759.00


This is why you buy stand alone GPS for $100


Cookie

Quote from: twocool on June 08, 2014, 05:46:11 PM


How much does an i phone cost....or android..or smart phone...and what is the monthly fee?

Cookie

Quote from: ohgood on June 08, 2014, 03:28:06 AM

Quote from: Erika on June 06, 2014, 06:44:01 AM
I was thinking about getting a gps unit or maybe just using an iphone app. I've never owned a gps so I don't have a clue on where to start for something motorcycle-friendly. It would be cool if there were one that worked with gloves on. What are you all using these days?

software:
iphone = motionx
android = Locus Pro (or free, just fewer nice things like auto-zoom to speed), Sygic, Osmand+

the android options i listed work completely offline, no cellular data required, download a state wide VECTOR map which is tiny and highly detailed for free, right in the application

hardware:
ram mount
dry bag + velcro (about 10,000 miles this way, no issues)
otterbox
whoever, it's an iphone, EVERYONE makes waterproof enclosures for it

wiring:
KISS, it's just a plug, get it at walmart or spend a gazillion dollars, it's still only going to charge the phone




gps vs phone:
phone = always up to date, always available, different applications if you hate the way one works, just use a different app
gps = ancient, archaic, odd, small screens, expensive as hell, very few import/export options for sharing tracks/routes/waypoints/MAPS with friends

i'm surprised anyone still buys a standalone gps when locus does so much more so much better.

Craigslist, $150

Quote from: twocool on June 10, 2014, 05:11:47 PM


And the cost of service plan??

Quote from: ohgood on June 10, 2014, 01:11:06 PM

Quote from: twocool on June 09, 2014, 03:47:11 AM
Ok...I find answer myself...

How Much Does an iPhone Cost?  $2000 to $3000 or more!!

Here's the breakdown of the total iPhone price over a new or upgrade-eligible two-year AT&T, Sprint, or Verizon contract (not including overages, tax, or additional charges).
  Phone Monthly Two-Year Contract Total
Cheapest $199 AT&T: $59.99/month
450 minute plan-$39.99 +300 MB data plan-$20+1,500 texts: $15

$1,799.76    $1,998.76

Most Expensive $399 Verizon: $140/month
Unlimited calling $40 +10 GB data $100 +unlimited text messages $0

$3,360.00 $3,759.00


This is why you buy stand alone GPS for $100


Cookie

Quote from: twocool on June 08, 2014, 05:46:11 PM


How much does an i phone cost....or android..or smart phone...and what is the monthly fee?

Cookie

Quote from: ohgood on June 08, 2014, 03:28:06 AM

Quote from: Erika on June 06, 2014, 06:44:01 AM
I was thinking about getting a gps unit or maybe just using an iphone app. I've never owned a gps so I don't have a clue on where to start for something motorcycle-friendly. It would be cool if there were one that worked with gloves on. What are you all using these days?

software:
iphone = motionx
android = Locus Pro (or free, just fewer nice things like auto-zoom to speed), Sygic, Osmand+

the android options i listed work completely offline, no cellular data required, download a state wide VECTOR map which is tiny and highly detailed for free, right in the application

hardware:
ram mount
dry bag + velcro (about 10,000 miles this way, no issues)
otterbox
whoever, it's an iphone, EVERYONE makes waterproof enclosures for it

wiring:
KISS, it's just a plug, get it at walmart or spend a gazillion dollars, it's still only going to charge the phone




gps vs phone:
phone = always up to date, always available, different applications if you hate the way one works, just use a different app
gps = ancient, archaic, odd, small screens, expensive as hell, very few import/export options for sharing tracks/routes/waypoints/MAPS with friends

i'm surprised anyone still buys a standalone gps when locus does so much more so much better.

Craigslist, $150

Service contract will depend on whether it is unlocked or not. If unlocked, you can get voice, text, and data as cheaply as like $15/month.


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Well... I already have an iphone. For many reasons... but now will also be using it as a GPS. On a similar note, here's another question. Does anybody make bluetooth headphones without the microphone and stupid giant clip on battery? They make them for snowboarders like this...

http://www.bernunlimited.com/audio-chips/

Which wouldn't work in a mc helmet unfortunately. I only want audio and earbuds are illegal here. I don't want to transmit for a microphone and don't want to drop a ton of cash for an entire headset since I would not use the microphone. (I know I know... then why the iphone you ask. I don't want to talk while riding. Only listen to gps apps for directions and maaayyybe music if on a boring strip of highway. Otherwise no music if I'm on twisties.)

I'm not sure any company would develop a bluetooth headset and then downgrade it by disabling the microphone. There is only a handful of people that would spend their buck for such a thing.

Why not buy a helmet with bluetooth built-in and enable 'do not disturb' mode on your phone? nobody will call you then and get your music/GPS directions.

twocool-

No service plan needed, if you only want the GPS/mapping/tracking functions.

Just like a stand alone GPS, the phone will need maps downloaded, which you can do via Wi-Fi at the library. for free. see open street maps for some fantastic resources. vector maps are the smallest file sizes, and render the fastest.

yes, if you want a phone to function as a phone, you have to pay someone for cellular service.

the phone GPS/mapping applications are updated much more frequently than garmin will ever be able or care to.

Quote from: Erika on June 10, 2014, 07:07:27 PM
Well... I already have an iphone. For many reasons... but now will also be using it as a GPS. On a similar note, here's another question. Does anybody make bluetooth headphones without the microphone and stupid giant clip on battery? They make them for snowboarders like this...

http://www.bernunlimited.com/audio-chips/

Which wouldn't work in a mc helmet unfortunately. I only want audio and earbuds are illegal here. I don't want to transmit for a microphone and don't want to drop a ton of cash for an entire headset since I would not use the microphone. (I know I know... then why the iphone you ask. I don't want to talk while riding. Only listen to gps apps for directions and maaayyybe music if on a boring strip of highway. Otherwise no music if I'm on twisties.)

some of my riding buddies have enjoyed this

http://www.cyclegear.com/CycleGear/Street/Helmets/Modular/brand/BILT/Techno-Bluetooth-Modular-Motorcycle-Helmet/p/44139_200897_2


and it's not the only one available.

airplane mode is very nice for motorcycling.

Quote from: Erika on June 10, 2014, 07:07:27 PM
Well... I already have an iphone. For many reasons... but now will also be using it as a GPS. On a similar note, here's another question. Does anybody make bluetooth headphones without the microphone and stupid giant clip on battery? They make them for snowboarders like this...

http://www.bernunlimited.com/audio-chips/

Which wouldn't work in a mc helmet unfortunately. I only want audio and earbuds are illegal here. I don't want to transmit for a microphone and don't want to drop a ton of cash for an entire headset since I would not use the microphone. (I know I know... then why the iphone you ask. I don't want to talk while riding. Only listen to gps apps for directions and maaayyybe music if on a boring strip of highway. Otherwise no music if I'm on twisties.)

This is what I have for Bluetooth setup: UClear HBC200
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/uclear-hbc200-force-bluetooth-communicator-single-pack
No mic at all... perse, they are built into the speakers... it is a communicator, just uses a different technology (and calls are amazing on it, no one knows I'm on the bike).  As others have said, You can just disable calls on your Iphone with various ways if you don't want to use it for that.  I do use it for music, GPS, and the occasional call.

There is a cheaper previous model as well that could do what you want, which is the UClear HBC100 - there were a few updates from the 100 to the 200, including how it bounces signal to other UClears, updated sound playback for music quality, and maybe another something I can't remember...
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/uclear-hbc100-plus-bluetooth-communicator

Both UClear's can communicate with other brands of communicators. I will note that with both UClear's you need to have cut-outs in your helmet padding for your ears in order for them to be comfortable... most helmets do have this now for the padding anyways.  Notice the space in padding allowed for your ears on my helmet - that's what I mean by 'Cut-outs'



I don't know space requirements about next option below though...

Sena makes a low profile communicator that might work for you as well, I don't think you would have to hook up a mic if you don't want to on it... or it does have a boomless mic option too... SMH10R
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/sena-smh10r-bluetooth-headset

- Bboy

Quote from: ohgood on June 11, 2014, 06:25:07 AM
airplane mode is very nice for motorcycling.

When you are in airplane mode, does the phone still provide you the localization service? (just displaying the offline map is only a partial success)

I'm not totally sure on the airplane mode... Although, I'm sure the Do not disturb mode would work well for just stopping calls while riding.

- Bboy

Quote from: jsyzdek on June 10, 2014, 08:05:50 PM
enable 'do not disturb' mode on your phone

That's what I suggested...

right... 

Quote from: eee-zee rider on June 11, 2014, 12:08:03 PM

Quote from: ohgood on June 11, 2014, 06:25:07 AM
airplane mode is very nice for motorcycling.

When you are in airplane mode, does the phone still provide you the localization service? (just displaying the offline map is only a partial success)

I can't speak for how iOS handles a-gps or the GPS antenna, but on android yes you still have access to the good antenna while cellular, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, and NFC are all disabled by airplane mode.

it saves a LOT of battery if you're on the fringe of cellular coverage.

most importantly is to turn the screen off. the GPS antenna used very little juice compared to the display.

also, I just found a cheap case that skulks work for a wide range of phones:



$10 shipped from eBay and sized big enough for the galaxy note 2, it fits a galaxy s2 with enough room for a charger cord, the iPhone should have plenty of space.

Quote from: BockinBboy on June 11, 2014, 12:38:06 PM
I'm not totally sure on the airplane mode... Although, I'm sure the Do not disturb mode would work well for just stopping calls while riding.

- Bboy

Just throwing this out there for anybody who is concerned: I have a Galaxy S2 Note which has a "hands free mode". Basically, when you receive a call or a text message it tells you who it's from (and can even read the text out to you). The best thing about it IMO is for filtering out who is important and who is not. If my friends are texting me about something silly = it can wait. If my wife is calling / texting me about something urgent = I know about it asap.