I need to ride with people on here. I get weird looks because I seem to be the only person other than my brother or father in law that actually dresses for the worst case scenario in my area. I witnessed a guy yesterday in basketball shorts and tank top and flipflops on a ducati diavel going about 60 down my street in my neighborhood. Guess you cant buy common sense.  Oh has anyone owned draggin jeans?

Quote from: MARider on July 10, 2014, 08:27:00 AM
Oh has anyone owned draggin jeans?

Yes,

and don't worry what those morons think.

I dont. I have downed a street bike only once but dirt bikes lots of times. Not wearing proper gear is something I have never understood. I like my skin we have grown close over the years. Plus I am not 20 anymore and have a wife and two wonderful children. to be a little warm is nothing compared to the consequences of downing a bike at speed wearing a tshirt and shorts. Did you like the jeans? I need something that looks alight with a button down as we are some what casual at my office.

draggin jeans are not as comfortable as regular jeans but they're not bad. I wouldn't wear them all day. Mine are a little too big, but that's what happens when you can't try them on first.

good to know. they have a fitted pair I was thinking about getting as they look a little more "stylish" I sit at a desk 80% of my day so its not to big of a deal.

Quote from: MARider on July 10, 2014, 10:43:58 AM
good to know. they have a fitted pair I was thinking about getting as they look a little more "stylish" I sit at a desk 80% of my day so its not to big of a deal.

the twista and the slix are very nice, fitted and the brand typically runs large//true to size with a bit of stretch in them. For 260$ you can just get the draggin' k-legs which are washable and fit under all your jeans those + knee pads and you're good to go!

my commuting gear under my dress pants= alpinestars bionic freeride shots, fox knee/shin guards, boots, armored jacket/gloves/helmet and i'm fully protected even in my dressy slacks. + i don't get hot, even in these +85 degree days we've been having lately in the AM.

Quote from: MARider on July 10, 2014, 08:27:00 AM
I need to ride with people on here. I get weird looks because I seem to be the only person other than my brother or father in law that actually dresses for the worst case scenario in my area. I witnessed a guy yesterday in basketball shorts and tank top and flipflops on a ducati diavel going about 60 down my street in my neighborhood. Guess you cant buy common sense.  Oh has anyone owned draggin jeans?

You're not alone, even though it does sometimes feel like you're the only (relatively) sane rider out there.

I think the only other riders I've seen wearing ATG were on Goldwings, and even that's only 2-3 out of 50 or so of those I've seen this summer.  From my experience less than half of the riders are wearing helmets, maybe 25% are wearing proper jackets and gloves, and a handfull wear actual riding boots (hard to tell on this, though).  It's also hard to tell about the pants because of the kevlar/other reinforced jeans, but of those I know nobody has them (they use regular jeans).  I know no other riders who wear ATGATT, and one of them was even in a (cager caused) accident where he was only by-chance wearing his helmet (rode earlier that day without it).

Careless riders (majority it seems) are responsible for the insane crash statistics.  I can't tell you how many times I explain to friends/family that motorcycle fatality statistics are not applicable to me because I am so different from the sample population (no gear, overpowered bike, dangerous speeding, no training, drunk, ...).  I'd like to see statistics published which exclude data that comes from idiots and new riders without training (auto statistics have a much lower % of newbie or untrained drivers than motorcycles).  I'm sure fatalities will still be higher, but nowhere near the 20-30x higher mark.

www.ride2die.eu/r2d.com/index.html

**graphic - warning,..

Holy crap CBR......I've never seen that. Wow.....just, wow.

Quote from: gsJack on July 07, 2014, 07:41:23 PMNot knocking safety gear it is important, more important to some than others, but I still think the most important safety gear is riding smarts.

Totally agree, statistically MC riders are their own worst enemy's, especially riders that rail/speed and "push their limits"...I love the last one, it's like saying "I am going to go out and ride beyond my skill level today!"

Personally I remember the day I decided that I had to stop riding like an AssClown....that was 37 years ago, and because of that decision, to date that's 37 crash free years. I didn't get lucky I decided to stop crashing. Am I a better rider than anyone here? NO..I just ride within my personal ability/limits and practice defensive driving. Finding my "Happy Place" has done me more good than any amount of leather. And when I did crash I was ATG, too bad leather doesn't stop broken bones, cause loosing skin has never been a problem for me. I ATGMOTT, annually I do thousands of miles with ATG, but annually I also do hundreds of miles with just a helmet and gloves.

The GS500 is a beginners bike, so if your here by all means go ATGATT.

 You only gotta protect the parts you wanna keep.

http://www.revzilla.com/hub-what-experienced-riders-owe-new-riders?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=stream&utm_campaign=experienced-riders-owe-new

Man, that picture of the guy on the back of that truck trailer...

I don't know why, but that one creeps me out the most.

Quote from: AnonRider on July 10, 2014, 01:08:30 PM

Quote from: MARider on July 10, 2014, 10:43:58 AM
good to know. they have a fitted pair I was thinking about getting as they look a little more "stylish" I sit at a desk 80% of my day so its not to big of a deal.

the twista and the slix are very nice, fitted and the brand typically runs large//true to size with a bit of stretch in them. For 260$ you can just get the draggin' k-legs which are washable and fit under all your jeans those + knee pads and you're good to go!

my commuting gear under my dress pants= alpinestars bionic freeride shots, fox knee/shin guards, boots, armored jacket/gloves/helmet and i'm fully protected even in my dressy slacks. + i don't get hot, even in these +85 degree days we've been having lately in the AM.

Awsome that is just the info I was looking for. Yes this weather is a blessing and a curse as of late. Last night was so nice though.

You want to see riders dressed correctly.....go to a BMW convention.

They really do seem to gear up more than any group I know.  Make a mental note of the type of bikes you see and how the riders are dressed.  I think you will find the BMW group are much more into wearing correct gear.

I think BMW riders are more affluent on the average than other groups and can better afford the best of gear.

Quote from: DoktoroKiu on July 11, 2014, 06:12:12 AM
Man, that picture of the guy on the back of that truck trailer...

I don't know why, but that one creeps me out the most.

Agreed!

If that site doesn't at least make you think about the next time you ride... there is something wrong. 

- Bboy

Quote from: BockinBboy on July 11, 2014, 07:56:14 AM

Quote from: DoktoroKiu on July 11, 2014, 06:12:12 AM
Man, that picture of the guy on the back of that truck trailer...

I don't know why, but that one creeps me out the most.

Agreed!

If that site doesn't at least make you think about the next time you ride... there is something wrong. 

- Bboy

Like I said..."statistically MC riders are their own worst enemy's" that guy basically commited suicide.

Quote from: gsJack on July 11, 2014, 07:55:04 AM
I think BMW riders are more affluent on the average than other groups and can better afford the best of gear.

I would put that as a cultural + affluence thing, though.  My jacket and pants together cost less than my helmet, and my helmet was fairly cheap at around $250.  I guess it's more about where you put your money (all into the bike or into bike and gear).

Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on July 11, 2014, 08:42:14 AM

Quote from: BockinBboy on July 11, 2014, 07:56:14 AM

Quote from: DoktoroKiu on July 11, 2014, 06:12:12 AM
Man, that picture of the guy on the back of that truck trailer...

I don't know why, but that one creeps me out the most.

Agreed!

If that site doesn't at least make you think about the next time you ride... there is something wrong. 

- Bboy

Like I said..."statistically MC riders are their own worst enemy's" that guy basically committed suicide.

Yeah, I find it amazing that the truck driver thought another truck hit him because of how big the force of impact was.  Unless he was literally suicidal I wonder how fast he was going before he hit the brakes...

Another creepy one was the guy with the fence post up his rear...

Quote from: cbrfxr67 on July 10, 2014, 02:22:09 PM
www.ride2die.eu/r2d.com/index.html

**graphic - warning,..

thank you. i have lost all interest in riding my motorcycle now...