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Front tire on Backwheel. (New tire tips?)

Started by Krav, September 10, 2014, 04:44:26 AM

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Atesz792

I agree that you can save a lot, but I'd still advise you have a professional balance your tires. Just this summer a mechanic (see.. not even an untrained individual like.. khm.. me) balanced my tires with the method described above. Well, let's just say that at 'above highway' speeds it felt like I was on a dirt road or something. Took her to a decent shop, with a well suited machine (you know the kind attached to a computer), they put about 50 grams of weight on each wheel. She's super smooth now, at any speed she can reach ;)
Even if you don't go that fast, I'd worry about the not-so-well-balanced wheel shaking apart my suspension. But maybe that's just me.
'04 GS500F with 50k miles updated July 2022.
Ride it like a 2 stroke:
1: Rev high
2: Add oil
3: Repeat

twocool

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-wheels/balancer/


Many say that balancing motorcycle tires is unnecessary...of those who say balancing is a good idea...most say static balance ....very few see the need for dynamic balance on motorcycle.  (due to the narrow tire profile)

In your scenario, below, I would contend that the first "mechanic" did a poor job.  You could have and would have done better if you did the job yourself.

Mechanics are profit motivated and time sensitive...DIY home mechanics are perfection motivated.

So even a "Professional" can give you are lousy job and still charge you!

I'm not saying that using a professional is necessarily bad..and I'm not saying that a computer dynamic balance is bad either....except for the needless cost....

Again in your scenario...the tire needing 50 grams..(2 ounces in English)  that's quite an out of balance tire to begin with....If I remember..the worst tire I ever did required 25 grams (1 ounce)...most require 1/4 or 1/2 ounce!

You can buy a "fancy" static balancer for about $100 or so, that will "pay for itself in two tires balanced.

Or you can make your own balancer for just about free, and pocket the savings right away..

Do whatever makes you happy!

Cookie






Quote from: Atesz792 on September 13, 2014, 03:02:19 AM
I agree that you can save a lot, but I'd still advise you have a professional balance your tires. Just this summer a mechanic (see.. not even an untrained individual like.. khm.. me) balanced my tires with the method described above. Well, let's just say that at 'above highway' speeds it felt like I was on a dirt road or something. Took her to a decent shop, with a well suited machine (you know the kind attached to a computer), they put about 50 grams of weight on each wheel. She's super smooth now, at any speed she can reach ;)
Even if you don't go that fast, I'd worry about the not-so-well-balanced wheel shaking apart my suspension. But maybe that's just me.

Atesz792

Quote from: twocool on September 13, 2014, 04:22:59 AM
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-wheels/balancer/


Many say that balancing motorcycle tires is unnecessary...of those who say balancing is a good idea...most say static balance ....very few see the need for dynamic balance on motorcycle.  (due to the narrow tire profile)

In your scenario, below, I would contend that the first "mechanic" did a poor job.  You could have and would have done better if you did the job yourself.

Mechanics are profit motivated and time sensitive...DIY home mechanics are perfection motivated.

So even a "Professional" can give you are lousy job and still charge you!

I'm not saying that using a professional is necessarily bad..and I'm not saying that a computer dynamic balance is bad either....except for the needless cost....

Again in your scenario...the tire needing 50 grams..(2 ounces in English)  that's quite an out of balance tire to begin with....If I remember..the worst tire I ever did required 25 grams (1 ounce)...most require 1/4 or 1/2 ounce!

You can buy a "fancy" static balancer for about $100 or so, that will "pay for itself in two tires balanced.

Or you can make your own balancer for just about free, and pocket the savings right away..

Do whatever makes you happy!

Cookie
I'm just sharing my experience here.
He really is a mechanic, just not my usual one. Holidays...
Tire guy said it is not uncommon even for supersport (read: fookin expensive) tires to require 50 or more grams. These were 2 brand new Pirelli SD's and I'm satisfied with them so far. Also said that my wheels could be the cause for needing this much weight, too.
Oh and... "gram" is English, too. Ounce just happens to be imperial. Welcome to the rest of the world. (Not trying to start a metric vs imperial argument here.)
'04 GS500F with 50k miles updated July 2022.
Ride it like a 2 stroke:
1: Rev high
2: Add oil
3: Repeat

twocool

OK...if you don't mind spending the money, I'm sure the guy with the computer doesn't mind balancing and taking your money..

Motorcycles are maintenance intensive....this can offset the apparent economy of riding vs driving a car...Cheap bastards like me have found ways to save money by NOT paying other people for relatively simple motorcycle chores, by learning how to do them...

Just sayin'


I have several English friends, named Graham..

Grams, ounces whatever...doesn't matter

Cookie



Quote from: Atesz792 on September 14, 2014, 08:40:16 AM
Quote from: twocool on September 13, 2014, 04:22:59 AM
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-wheels/balancer/


Many say that balancing motorcycle tires is unnecessary...of those who say balancing is a good idea...most say static balance ....very few see the need for dynamic balance on motorcycle.  (due to the narrow tire profile)

In your scenario, below, I would contend that the first "mechanic" did a poor job.  You could have and would have done better if you did the job yourself.

Mechanics are profit motivated and time sensitive...DIY home mechanics are perfection motivated.

So even a "Professional" can give you are lousy job and still charge you!

I'm not saying that using a professional is necessarily bad..and I'm not saying that a computer dynamic balance is bad either....except for the needless cost....

Again in your scenario...the tire needing 50 grams..(2 ounces in English)  that's quite an out of balance tire to begin with....If I remember..the worst tire I ever did required 25 grams (1 ounce)...most require 1/4 or 1/2 ounce!

You can buy a "fancy" static balancer for about $100 or so, that will "pay for itself in two tires balanced.

Or you can make your own balancer for just about free, and pocket the savings right away..

Do whatever makes you happy!

Cookie
I'm just sharing my experience here.
He really is a mechanic, just not my usual one. Holidays...
Tire guy said it is not uncommon even for supersport (read: fookin expensive) tires to require 50 or more grams. These were 2 brand new Pirelli SD's and I'm satisfied with them so far. Also said that my wheels could be the cause for needing this much weight, too.
Oh and... "gram" is English, too. Ounce just happens to be imperial. Welcome to the rest of the world. (Not trying to start a metric vs imperial argument here.)

Krav

I would like to learn to mount a tire, and balance it in my garage. Absolutely gonna happen some time..
The problem for me with that at the moment though, is that im a little short for cash at the moment. Since i don't want a chance of this f*ucking up, i'm gonna choose to have it done. Maybe, when im richer in cash and time, ill do it myself at some point :p
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