LMAO!!!


I  am happy to say that we have decided to offer you a lucrative position in our marketing dept.


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Quote from: Janx101 on February 15, 2015, 12:00:09 AM
If any of y'all are fisherman. .. and lure fisherman in particular. ... I always think fondly of the various blurbs on the 'latest/greatest' lure onto the market..  when reading oil bottle blurbs.. .  The improvements over anything previous are incredible as Elvis and Jesus both being reincarnated and having a lovechild thru genetic engineering and stem cell research combined!

I know next to nothing about oils but I have used so many different brands for so many different applications, over so many years, and I have never noticed a difference in the feel, performance, or longevity of my vehicles.  Perhaps that tells me all I need to know...

Quote from: NYNJ8 on February 15, 2015, 07:41:26 AM
I know next to nothing about oils but I have used so many different brands for so many different applications, over so many years, and I have never noticed a difference in the feel, performance, or longevity of my vehicles.  Perhaps that tells me all I need to know...

Now lets not start taking objectively and realistically, its far too late in the debate...............people really will start getting confused 

By jove, I think he's got it.

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Quote from: NYNJ8 on February 15, 2015, 07:41:26 AM
I know next to nothing about oils but I have used so many different brands for so many different applications, over so many years, and I have never noticed a difference in the feel, performance, or longevity of my vehicles.  Perhaps that tells me all I need to know...

Quote from: sledge on February 15, 2015, 08:09:03 AM
Now lets not start taking objectively and realistically, its far too late in the debate...............people really will start getting confused 

On that premise the only real improvement I noticed when using Mobil 1 Racing 4T 10W-40 motorcycle oil, is that in all four bikes below the shifting was noticeably improved. With my WR250R I tried Rotella T6 5W-40 Full Synthetic and it shifted like crap (notchy) so bad I drained it out after 5 miles, that was the point where I then tried Rotella T 15W-40 in the WR and the shifting improved dramatically..enough that Rotella T is now what I use in all my bikes.

'05 Suzuki DL650K5, '07 Suzuki GS500F, '08 Suzuki GSX650F, '10 Kawasaki Ninja 250R

EDIT: Removed the "3's" from the "T"

What, no mention of dino or synthetic?  No 5W-30 or 5W-40 oils?  geez, if we all go along with that we won't need any oil threads next winter.     

Quote from: gsJack on February 15, 2015, 01:11:10 PM
What, no mention of dino or synthetic?  No 5W-30 or 5W-40 oils?  geez, if we all go along with that we won't need any oil threads next winter.   

There will always be oil threads, as long as there is oil and a place to discuss oil in said threads...

Personally, I squeeze out all my hamburgers and save up the grease.
I've found that Burger King grease goes longer than McDonald's before turning green and growing fungus in my crankcase, but that's just my opinion. 


Stevo: Where the heck do you find Rotella T3?! I'd love to get my hands on that, but I've only found it locally in 55-gallon drums.

Quote from: Elmojo on February 15, 2015, 03:17:32 PMStevo: Where the heck do you find Rotella T3?! I'd love to get my hands on that, but I've only found it locally in 55-gallon drums.

Wally World, by the gallon, it goes on sale allot too 

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Shell-Rotella-T-15W-40-Heavy-Duty-Diesel-Oil-1-gal./14958327

That's not T3....

That's Rotella T  "triple protection"...


T3 is for industrial and fleet use and comes in barrels...

Not that it makes any difference which you use...


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Quote from: Suzuki Stevo on February 15, 2015, 03:30:03 PM

Quote from: Elmojo on February 15, 2015, 03:17:32 PMStevo: Where the heck do you find Rotella T3?! I'd love to get my hands on that, but I've only found it locally in 55-gallon drums.

Wally World, by the gallon, it goes on sale allot too 

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Shell-Rotella-T-15W-40-Heavy-Duty-Diesel-Oil-1-gal./14958327

Quote from: twocool on February 15, 2015, 03:39:39 PM
That's not T3....

That's Rotella T  "triple protection"...


T3 is for industrial and fleet use and comes in barrels...

Not that it makes any difference which you use...


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OK..I looked at my container and there is no "3", so it would be the same link I posted but no "3" , sorry for the confusion 
Mine looks like this, a bit different from the photo I posted also. (stock image)

I think, rather than discussing what brand of oil to take (as long as you take a known brand like Mobil, Valvoline, Shell, Rotella, etc...; you're good), I think it matters more what thickness of oil you use.

The thickness of the oil (numbers 5W30, 5w40, 10W30, 10W40, etc...), will have a bigger impact on determining engine life, than what brand.
Brands to avoid are unknown brands, brands that haven't been around for more than 10 years, I would avoid. Most brands of oil I know and use (mobil, rotella, valvoline, ...) are here for over 20 years, some are here since the 1960's or before...

And they are still here, because of a good reason, that their products are good and reliable.

For that reason I wouldn't try out a cheaper Chinese brand, if there are any to be found...

Your biggest enemy in oil is "engine vibrations".
They will tell you, when oil is too thick, or too thin, or too old.
Engine vibrations are mostly the cause of engine wear.
A piston vibrating an engine at a few thousand vibrations per second, causes more damage than corrosion or anything else.

To reduce engine vibrations, is to create a longer lasting engine.

You can reduce engine vibrations, by putting in the correct oil type, and the correct amount.
Even the correct oil, but when having oil leaks, can cause the engine to vibrate more than it has to, when oil levels drop below the recommended values..

I don't know about your "engine vibrations", I have two bikes without tachometers, you know when it's time to downshift when they shudder/shake.
(I'm just pulling your chain MeeLee) obligatory photo of Stevo's new bike "Panda Express"..you see it's not a "Hog" it's a Suzuki so it's more like a Panda?

Wow, Mr. Lee....again I agree with you!

Sure, use the correct specification oil for your machine, (as written in the owner's manual)...this means general specification and viscosity....change oil at recommended intervals...you will have no problems...

I also stick with "name brands"...I wouldn't risk some weird "7-eleven brand" or Chinese "Yuck Fou" brand...


But let me give you two horror stories with MAJOR BRANDS...

I work two nights a week in an auto parts store...

We had a customer come back with quarts of oil he bought from us...major brand...in the quarts was what seemed to be red transmission fluid!!!  It was not engine oil...we checked the shelves and most of the quarts were trans fluid, not oil...

Naturally we reported this to our supplier and the oil company...all product was removed from the shelves and a recall was enacted....BUT IT WAS KEPT hush-hush!!!!

Second story...


I work in an airplane repair and maintenance shop...we got a notice from a MAJOR oil supplier that  we were to look at all of the oil they supplied and look for certain "batch numbers"..any oil from those batches was not to be used...it seems that some "contaminates" from the packing machinery had found its way into the product...

Quote from: MeeLee on February 15, 2015, 04:17:09 PM
I think, rather than discussing what brand of oil to take (as long as you take a known brand like Mobil, Valvoline, Shell, Rotella, etc...; you're good), I think it matters more what thickness of oil you use.

The thickness of the oil (numbers 5W30, 5w40, 10W30, 10W40, etc...), will have a bigger impact on determining engine life, than what brand.
Brands to avoid are unknown brands, brands that haven't been around for more than 10 years, I would avoid. Most brands of oil I know and use (mobil, rotella, valvoline, ...) are here for over 20 years, some are here since the 1960's or before...

And they are still here, because of a good reason, that their products are good and reliable.

For that reason I wouldn't try out a cheaper Chinese brand, if there are any to be found...

Your biggest enemy in oil is "engine vibrations".
They will tell you, when oil is too thick, or too thin, or too old.
Engine vibrations are mostly the cause of engine wear.
A piston vibrating an engine at a few thousand vibrations per second, causes more damage than corrosion or anything else.

To reduce engine vibrations, is to create a longer lasting engine.

You can reduce engine vibrations, by putting in the correct oil type, and the correct amount.
Even the correct oil, but when having oil leaks, can cause the engine to vibrate more than it has to, when oil levels drop below the recommended values..

Then the airplane oil was collected and shipped to Malaysia! .... too soon??

Yeah, that's was I was asking Stevo about the T3.
So he's using Rotella T "triple protection", not true T3?
Again, not that it matters, I'm just trying to get a clearer picture.

Sorry for the confusion, I am new to the Rotella T world as of last year.